Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)

[duo]

At what point do we stop paying him? 

[MagPar]

1 hour ago, ED209 said:

Why do these cretins need an agent in the first place? Are they all thick as mince? Surely you would be better off negotiating yourself a deal and taking a slightly lower wedge than paying some parasite a fortune to get you an extra few quid a week? 
 

 

Why dont you do your fucking job.

[Mahoneys Tache]

3 minutes ago, midds said:

I can believe all of that tbh. A few facts to back it up would be nice to help to form a bit of context but I'd agree that his agent is also a piece of shit

 

He's still going along with it despite everything though and that's more than enough to tar and feather him. If you're prepared to buy the old 'agent told me' horseshit line in 2 weeks time then that's completely up to you 

As I’ve said before on here, he’s 25, knows nothing of life outside football since he was a kid, might be thick as a fence post, or naive at least. Maybe he’s started to believe his own press and thinks he’s the dogs bollocks and losing perspective, if he ever had any. Maybe he’s just being very very badly advised by someone who has been feeding off him. Press info (for whatever that’s worth) suggests that his agent is going to retire soon and wants one last bung. 
None of that is true, but it’s no more true or false than it being as straight forward as Isak is being a knob, because neither of us has all the information. 

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Hire a sports lawyer to do it and save millions.  I’ve never understood paying an agent the amount that they pay them, given the work required 

A sports lawyer isn’t going to do the job of an agent, wheeling & dealing and constantly looking for ways to make you (their client) and therefore them, more money and better opportunities that will further your career, your bank balance and subsequently their bank balance

 

Essentially a player is a product and an agent is the sales & marketing department of that product. 

 

The sports lawyer is the legal department, there to make sure your deals are contractually sound and you don’t get ripped off 

 

Music industry is similar, a young lad who’s good on guitar and can sing is unlikely to have the skills to build his career and sign up for deals without an agent / manager and a decent lawyer, because if he does try it the music industry will eat him alive 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Wilson]

10 minutes ago, duo said:

At what point do we stop paying him? 

 

I don't know how it works, but I always assumed we'd just fine the shit out of him  as opposed to not paying him.

 

Don't know the legality of it all but surely there is something to protect the club from this kid of cuntishnes. 

[midds]

9 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

As I’ve said before on here, he’s 25, knows nothing of life outside football since he was a kid, might be thick as a fence post, or naive at least. Maybe he’s started to believe his own press and thinks he’s the dogs bollocks and losing perspective, if he ever had any. Maybe he’s just being very very badly advised by someone who has been feeding off him. Press info (for whatever that’s worth) suggests that his agent is going to retire soon and wants one last bung. 
None of that is true, but it’s no more true or false than it being as straight forward as Isak is being a knob, because neither of us has all the information. 

I'm open to facts and willing to change my opinion based on whatever evidence I read mate, honestly

 

It just seems to be the case that Isak, whilst being (poorly) advised by a dodgy agent is still going through with his orders despite having been involved in loads of transfers and contract negotiations. To even suggest Isak has no say or input into how he's behaving is, in my opinion, extremely dubious and naive. The shithouse knows exactly what he's doing and the consequences of it and for him to then pretend he's had no part in it is duplicitous to say the least. Isak is a certified cunt. His agent is also probably a certified cunt too. It's no surprise to me they ended up working with each other, that's not an accident imo

[et tu brute]

20 minutes ago, duo said:

At what point do we stop paying him? 

I'm expecting Howe tomorrow to confirm that this has happened. If not then the journalists should be asking directly why not 

[bobbydazzla]

7 minutes ago, midds said:

I'm open to facts and willing to change my opinion based on whatever evidence I read mate, honestly

 

It just seems to be the cast that Isak, whilst being (poorly) advised by a dodgy agent is still going through with his orders despite having been involved in loads of transfers and contract negotiations. To even suggest Isak has no say or input into how he's behaving is, in my opinion, extremely dubious and naive. The shithouse knows exactly what he's doing and the consequences of it and for him to then pretend he's had no part in it is duplicitous to say the least. Isak is a certified cunt. His agent is also probably a certified cunt too. It's no surprise to me they ended up working with each other, that's not an accident imo

Whilst all of that is probably true, the cunt of an agent also had strong ties to AIK (before they banned him) and will have signed Isak up when he was a bairn 

 

So whilst Isak has behaved like a cunt and the blame ultimately lies with him, he’s also being advised by a cunt who’s been advising him and therefore influencing him since he was a kid 

 

A potent mix of nature and nurture had probably led us to this ridiculous  place of a player refusing to honour his contract 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[MagPar]

39 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

thick as whale spunk 

 

 

Scrapes remaining semolina into waste disposal.

[Nobody]

54 minutes ago, midds said:

Isak's an intelligent guy and is in no way some wet behind the ears young kid who's just starting his career. He's already played in multiple countries and played for multiple clubs and knows exactly how this game goes, to even start to pretend he's been 'badly advised' by his agent is utter pigshit, Isak has willingly gone into this with his eyes wide fucking open, he knows exactly what he's doing and the consequences of it too. All he's done this last month is show the entire footballing world what a monumental cunt he actually is. Most neutral fans now think he's a piece of shit, his own fans hate him, Liverpool fans are now very suspicious of him and most pundits are saying he's being a cunt too. He's got no-one to hide behind for this, he's the one in the spotlight and he's the one who's gone along with it every step of the way. To believe the 'agent told me' horseshit is ridiculous and indicative of the lack of critical thinking skills 

 

 

 

An article in Expressen (one of the bigger Swedish papers) today had all three pundits defend him and his actions, while citing Ornsteins claims that he's been lied to by the club. Was pretty pathetic to see them all rallying behind him and claiming 'that's just football now'. 

Obviously the discourse in Sweden is going to be very different to the UK, and I'm not arguing your points, just wanted to show what the Swedish media are saying (we'll definitely have a stinker of a season according to them btw). 

[midds]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

Whilst all of that is probably true, the cunt of an agent also had strong ties to AIK (before they banned him) and will have signed Isak up when he was a bairn 

 

So whilst Isak has behaved like a cunt and the blame ultimately lies with him, he’s also being advised by a cunt who’s been advising him and therefore influencing him since he was a kid 

Could be true? Doesn't get him off the hook in 2025 though. 

 

I'm not suggesting it's not possible, I'm saying the 'agent told me' excuse doesn't work any longer. If people want to fall for it as they need it as an excuse to possibly forgive him then that's up to them. Isak's a fucking snake, man

[Dr Venkman]

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to suggest that they’re both cunts but that the agent has driven the extreme actions. At the risk of stating the bloody obvious Isak’s job is to be really good at football, everything else is his agents concern. Yes Isak can decline any course of action his agent recommends but it seems as if he’s prioritising money/trophies in the short term and he’s willing to follow whatever action his agent recommends. How much information is coming to Isak independent of his agent? I think it’s reasonable to assume very little. In that sense he could be very dependent on his agent, and, having decided to follow the money right now, dependent on his advice step by step.

 

Not sure where that puts me on the critical thinking scale.

[Hanshithispantz]

From what I'm getting here, Isak has a sub-40 IQ, and his agent is going to chop his hands off if he plays for us again.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[geordiesteve710]

16 minutes ago, Wilson said:

 

I don't know how it works, but I always assumed we'd just fine the shit out of him  as opposed to not paying him.

 

Don't know the legality of it all but surely there is something to protect the club from this kid of cuntishnes. 

Yeah, we can fine him for not turning up to work as a disciplinary matter.

 

Just "stopping paying him" would open the door for an argument that the club have breached the contract which is something we want to avoid at all costs.

[bobbydazzla]

6 minutes ago, midds said:

Could be true? Doesn't get him off the hook in 2025 though. 

 

I'm not suggesting it's not possible, I'm saying the 'agent told me' excuse doesn't work any longer. If people want to fall for it as they need it as an excuse to possibly forgive him then that's up to them. Isak's a fucking snake, man

I reckon the “agent told me” is only going to be used if he wants to get back into the NUFC fold, because it gives Isak a get out for media purposes

 

Outside of that it’s pointless because no one buys it. He’s accountable for his behaviour, whether it was his, his agents, or both of their ideas to go on strike 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[midds]

8 minutes ago, Nobody said:

An article in Expressen (one of the bigger Swedish papers) today had all three pundits defend him and his actions, while citing Ornsteins claims that he's been lied to by the club. Was pretty pathetic to see them all rallying behind him and claiming 'that's just football now'. 

Obviously the discourse in Sweden is going to be very different to the UK, and I'm not arguing your points, just wanted to show what the Swedish media are saying (we'll definitely have a stinker of a season according to them btw). 

I'd agree with you that it sounds pretty pathetic of them

[midds]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

I reckon the “agent told me” is only going to be used if he wants to get back into the NUFC fold, because it gives Isak a get out for the media 

 

Outside of that it’s pointless because no one buys it. He’s accountable for his behaviour, whether it was his, his agents, or both of their ideas to go on strike 

Couldn't agree more

 

I think one or two are going to buy it though...

[magorific]

1 hour ago, oldtype said:

If you’re a superstar already you probably don’t need an agent taking a cut of your deals. Clubs will offer you close to whatever you want anyway. You can hire someone to coordinate all the PA stuff without asking for a percentage of your earnings (honestly more star players should do this).

 

But when you’re young and just breaking into the professional scene a well connected agent is huge in terms of finding the right club for you, maximizing your earnings, putting the right support people around you, and building your public image for marketing purposes. And if you feel like your agent has done a good job for you at that stage, there’s a great deal of personal loyalty and friendship built up so it’s hard to cut ties even when you don’t actually need them anymore.

Agents, as has been said, do a lot more than negotiate playing contracts. Image rights, for example, are hugely lucrative for top players now.

[Nobody]

Here’s the full translation into English:

 

 

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Newcastle United

 

Surely even as a Swede you’re allowed to think that Alexander Isak is acting like a spoiled brat?

Petter Landén: I understand why you’d feel that way – even I feel a twinge of anger over the strike. But if you read up a bit, you’ll see the story is complex, with broken promises and (deliberately?) misunderstood communication from the club’s side… I just wish Isak would speak up and give his side so everyone could hear it. Unfortunately, football doesn’t work that way today.

Mattias Tengblad: It’s a free country! But in the nine years that Alexander Isak has been on my radar, he’s appeared to be the exact opposite of what you describe. When I read David Ornstein’s reports about Newcastle’s broken promises, I also feel that Newcastle has acted both strangely and unprofessionally. In any case, it’s all unfortunate.

Therese Strömberg: You’re allowed to think that, but I don’t. He seems to have been promised things he hasn’t received, and we’re so used to big players doing this now that I find it hard to get upset. If anything, I think it’s refreshing to have two Swedish troublemakers this summer! 

 

 

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Anthony Elanga – smells like 10+10 this year and a smash hit!

Petter Landén: I so wish I could agree with you. Nothing against Anthony – he’s good enough to produce those kinds of numbers in a well-performing team. But Newcastle this year… they’re not getting top four.

Mattias Tengblad: He has it in him. But the timing is terrible. How is Newcastle really doing?

Therese Strömberg: Still a peripheral role in the national team.

 

 

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Weak transfer window so far… but surely the squad is still good enough to fight for top four?

Petter Landén: I literally just answered that? Good grief, ask better questions. No – too many missed opportunities this transfer window, too many rivals who have improved. They’ll have to fight tooth and nail for the Conference League.

Mattias Tengblad: No, I don’t think so. The team has overperformed for several years under Eddie Howe’s leadership, but that was with harmony and peace to work. Now? Total chaos around the team’s biggest star and simultaneous Champions League play. Who’s going to play as the number nine when Isak leaves? Anthony Gordon?

Therese Strömberg: It does depend quite a lot on Alexander Isak and how they manage that situation. And now they’re going to play in the Champions League again too. As of now, I think it will be difficult.

 

 

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That's the chatgpt translation of said article @midds

[Moose]

I must have cycled around the '5 stages of grief' a fair few times during this saga. I'm still completely shocked it's turned this foul this quickly. I understand that he was more difficult to warm to than some of the others who "get it", but he just seemed like such a chill guy, on the level who took everything in his stride. I think we all went into this simmer hoping he'd get a payrise, give us one more year and then ride off into the sunset and play for one of the giants in Europe with our blessings.

To go from the player I looked forward to watching play the most, who delivered my greatest memory as a fan to being a more detestable worm than Michael Owen in less than a month is astonishing 

[bealios]

5 minutes ago, midds said:

I'm open to facts and willing to change my opinion based on whatever evidence I read mate, honestly

 

It just seems to be the case that Isak, whilst being (poorly) advised by a dodgy agent is still going through with his orders despite having been involved in loads of transfers and contract negotiations. To even suggest Isak has no say or input into how he's behaving is, in my opinion, extremely dubious and naive. The shithouse knows exactly what he's doing and the consequences of it and for him to then pretend he's had no part in it is duplicitous to say the least. Isak is a certified cunt. His agent is also probably a certified cunt too. It's no surprise to me they ended up working with each other, that's not an accident imo

 

The bit that most fans are missing is that "Isak" is a now a brand. It has nothing to do with whether he is a snake or not - we're talking about someone who is potentially one of the Top 3 strikers on the planet. We live in a world where a stupid haircut and a big chain makes you famous/loaded - if you're actually close to being the best on the planet at what you do, the dynamic changes. 

 

If you're the best in the world at what you do, then with a bit or marketing advice in this world you could quite easily be at Beckham levels of wealth. Multi-millions (probably hundreds of millions). Personally, I think someone has put that in his ear. The whole discussion around wages and waiving loyalty bonus etc. is meaningless - in 2025 if you are a "brand" you will earn way more than what your admittedly extortiante football wages will pay you.

 

Bizarrely, I think that the above might be a reason that he may end up playing for us again - to go nuclear and be seen in the Sol Campbell/Ashley Cole permanent traitor camp doesn't do much for brand Isak. Brands diminish rapidly, and I hope our management team are conscious of that - we do literally hold the cards here, Isak taking a year off to sulk and do the bare minimum does him more harm than us. How many endorsements and non-NUFC stuff can he get involved with when he is minimum effort in from the bench. It would be a ballsy move from NUFC management if we did that, but I'd be fully behind it.  

[Hanshithispantz]

That Swedish panel thing the perfect example of why agents and clubs pay Romano and Ornstein to suck them off.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[midds]

2 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Here’s the full translation into English:

 

 

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Newcastle United

 

Surely even as a Swede you’re allowed to think that Alexander Isak is acting like a spoiled brat?

Petter Landén: I understand why you’d feel that way – even I feel a twinge of anger over the strike. But if you read up a bit, you’ll see the story is complex, with broken promises and (deliberately?) misunderstood communication from the club’s side… I just wish Isak would speak up and give his side so everyone could hear it. Unfortunately, football doesn’t work that way today.

Mattias Tengblad: It’s a free country! But in the nine years that Alexander Isak has been on my radar, he’s appeared to be the exact opposite of what you describe. When I read David Ornstein’s reports about Newcastle’s broken promises, I also feel that Newcastle has acted both strangely and unprofessionally. In any case, it’s all unfortunate.

Therese Strömberg: You’re allowed to think that, but I don’t. He seems to have been promised things he hasn’t received, and we’re so used to big players doing this now that I find it hard to get upset. If anything, I think it’s refreshing to have two Swedish troublemakers this summer! 

 

 

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Anthony Elanga – smells like 10+10 this year and a smash hit!

Petter Landén: I so wish I could agree with you. Nothing against Anthony – he’s good enough to produce those kinds of numbers in a well-performing team. But Newcastle this year… they’re not getting top four.

Mattias Tengblad: He has it in him. But the timing is terrible. How is Newcastle really doing?

Therese Strömberg: Still a peripheral role in the national team.

 

 

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Weak transfer window so far… but surely the squad is still good enough to fight for top four?

Petter Landén: I literally just answered that? Good grief, ask better questions. No – too many missed opportunities this transfer window, too many rivals who have improved. They’ll have to fight tooth and nail for the Conference League.

Mattias Tengblad: No, I don’t think so. The team has overperformed for several years under Eddie Howe’s leadership, but that was with harmony and peace to work. Now? Total chaos around the team’s biggest star and simultaneous Champions League play. Who’s going to play as the number nine when Isak leaves? Anthony Gordon?

Therese Strömberg: It does depend quite a lot on Alexander Isak and how they manage that situation. And now they’re going to play in the Champions League again too. As of now, I think it will be difficult.

 

 

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That's the chatgpt translation of said article @midds

Understanding his anger (probably correctly tbh, I think he was probably asking for a new contract and deserved it too  ) and condoning going on strike are 2 very different things. I get they're Swedish pundits talking about the top current Swedish player but even they are calling what he's done out a bit. It's hardly a rock solid endorsement of his actions is it? 

[MagPar]

His only way out of this hole is to have an official press conference and admit that he's handled it all wrong and wholeheartedly apologise to the owners, the fans, the manager and everyone else right down to the tea lady.

 

I dont think the owner is going to cave, so Isak needs to accept that he's stuck here at this horrible club and he's going to have to grovel and  beg for forgiveness. He also needs to part company with his agent. Don't blame the agent though, the agent hasn't forced him to act like a cock. 

 

Take full responsibility, say sorry, cry your eyes out and promise to play the best of his career. Only then can there be a semblance of forgiveness. 

[bobbydazzla]

8 minutes ago, bealios said:

 

The bit that most fans are missing is that "Isak" is a now a brand. It has nothing to do with whether he is a snake or not - we're talking about someone who is potentially one of the Top 3 strikers on the planet. We live in a world where a stupid haircut and a big chain makes you famous/loaded - if you're actually close to being the best on the planet at what you do, the dynamic changes. 

 

If you're the best in the world at what you do, then with a bit or marketing advice in this world you could quite easily be at Beckham levels of wealth. Multi-millions (probably hundreds of millions). Personally, I think someone has put that in his ear. The whole discussion around wages and waiving loyalty bonus etc. is meaningless - in 2025 if you are a "brand" you will earn way more than what your admittedly extortiante football wages will pay you.

 

Bizarrely, I think that the above might be a reason that he may end up playing for us again - to go nuclear and be seen in the Sol Campbell/Ashley Cole permanent traitor camp doesn't do much for brand Isak. Brands diminish rapidly, and I hope our management team are conscious of that - we do literally hold the cards here, Isak taking a year off to sulk and do the bare minimum does him more harm than us. How many endorsements and non-NUFC stuff can he get involved with when he is minimum effort in from the bench. It would be a ballsy move from NUFC management if we did that, but I'd be fully behind it.  

His brand is becoming very toxic, very quickly. Even beyond NUFC

 

Who’s gong to pay Isak millions to put their corporate brand to his name when he’s mainly associated with a lack of respect and reneging on contracts 

 

It’ll take time for that dust to settle

 

 

Edited August 14, 2025 by bobbydazzla