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3 minutes ago, Menace said:

I'm reserving being smug he's failing until our other striker actually plays for us

 

When people say to me: would you rather Isak was absolutely fucking shit or Wissa was a permacrock  My answer's always the same, to me, they're mutually exclusive.

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Not satisfied by Big Nick Energy eh? 

 

Of course I am. But we have a striker who pulled the exact same antics so let's just hope we get the rub of the green and this season's not a write off for him - it's going to take him another month or two before he gets up to standard.

 

Has he even trained for us yet?

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I do think as a fan base we have to be careful to a certain extent. There seems to be a section that’s convinced themselves he’s shit and was only good because we played everything for him. He’s inevitably going to come good at some point. 
 

I’m not sure what my point is here. I guess it’s a good laugh how he’s struggling given the summer but let’s not pretend he isn’t going to start banging them in leaving some people looking a bit daft. 

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32 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

Of course I am. But we have a striker who pulled the exact same antics so let's just hope we get the rub of the green and this season's not a write off for him - it's going to take him another month or two before he gets up to standard.

 

Has he even trained for us yet?


Are you suggesting cause and effect here? I thought Wissa was out because he picked up an injury playing for his country. 

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37 minutes ago, St1pe said:

I do think as a fan base we have to be careful to a certain extent. There seems to be a section that’s convinced themselves he’s shit and was only good because we played everything for him. He’s inevitably going to come good at some point. 
 

I’m not sure what my point is here. I guess it’s a good laugh how he’s struggling given the summer but let’s not pretend he isn’t going to start banging them in leaving some people looking a bit daft. 

 

Let's just make hay whilst the sun shines

 

He's been shite for club and country since he left here, drink in that sweet nectar. He might come good, he might not, we'll cross that river when we come to it, the future's not ours to see.

 

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, St1pe said:

I do think as a fan base we have to be careful to a certain extent. There seems to be a section that’s convinced themselves he’s shit and was only good because we played everything for him. He’s inevitably going to come good at some point. 
 

I’m not sure what my point is here. I guess it’s a good laugh how he’s struggling given the summer but let’s not pretend he isn’t going to start banging them in leaving some people looking a bit daft. 

Thats the fickle nature of football fandom isn’t it? One moment top 5 striker in the world, he’s worth £150m.  The next - well he’s only as good as a Jacob Murphy cross. He’s shit.  Absolutely fleeced the £125m.  
 

I personally think the first is closer to being true but hoping for the second.  I think Etikite can get to that level and they both won’t be there in 3 years time. Isak could easily pull a stinker season and quickly become persona non grata and pressured to leave like Nunez was within the next 2-3 years. 
 

 

I don’t see a world where Etikite, Wirtz and Isak are in the same team.  I don’t think Isak works well being heavily rotated beyond helping his stamina issues. 

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11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Thats the fickle nature of football fandom isn’t it? One moment top 5 striker in the world, he’s worth £150m.  The next - well he’s only as good as a Jacob Murphy cross. He’s shit.  Absolutely fleeced the £125m.  
 

I personally think the first is closer to being true but hoping for the second.  I think Etikite can get to that level and they both won’t be there in 3 years time. Isak could easily pull a stinker season and quickly become persona non grata and pressured to leave like Nunez was within the next 2-3 years. 
 

 

I don’t see a world where Etikite, Wirtz and Isak are in the same team.  I don’t think Isak works well being heavily rotated beyond helping his stamina issues. 

 

Agree with the last bit 100%, Isak is a streaky striker and if he's in his element you can't stop the flow by rotating him out but then the dippers can't afford to keep him in the side if he's not scoring. 

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Just now, Mattoon said:

 

Agree with the last bit 100%, Isak is a streaky striker and if he's in his element you can't stop the flow by rotating him out but then the dippers can't afford to keep him in the side if he's not scoring. 

I don't think he's particularly streaky tbh. But agree with the general point. Most strikers are like that. I can't think of many strikers that are prolific but are constantly rotated. That might change with the amount of games in the CL now. PSG's ability to rotate/rest players is a big advantage to any other team in Europe.

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52 minutes ago, Menace said:

No. I'm suggesting both strikers who acted the twat with their club have had a slow/delayed start to their new clubs. Let's just hope ours hits the ground running when he eventually starts.


Right, but my point would be ours is to do with an injury rather than not training. I think Wissa had resumed training by the time he left Brentford. Maybe you agree, I dunno. 

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1 hour ago, St1pe said:

I do think as a fan base we have to be careful to a certain extent. There seems to be a section that’s convinced themselves he’s shit and was only good because we played everything for him. He’s inevitably going to come good at some point. 
 

I’m not sure what my point is here. I guess it’s a good laugh how he’s struggling given the summer but let’s not pretend he isn’t going to start banging them in leaving some people looking a bit daft. 

It isn’t inevitable tbf - big money & big talent transfers have flopped before.  It doesn’t mean Isak isn’t quality; but sometimes a player is a bad fit or loses form / confidence and needs a move to shake it off.  And of course sometimes that player never re-hits the previous heights (see Veron, Shevchenko, Torres etc etc). 

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1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Let's just make hay whilst the sun shines

 

He's been shite for club and country since he left here, drink in that sweet nectar. He might come good, he might not, we'll cross that river when we come to it, the future's not ours to see.

 

Not picking you up on your words, but he's been terrible since we won the cup. 

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5 minutes ago, macphisto said:

Not picking you up on your words, but he's been terrible since we won the cup. 

 

Aye, I thought that as I wrote it. But we couldn't slurp the delicious ice cold pints of Schadenfreude pilsner whilst he played for us, so it's a moot point

 

 

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My take: it’s highly possible he’s already played the best football of his career. 
A different set of team mates, with a club that will have less team unity than NUFC, different system, much more quality competition for the shirt, less ‘adoring’ fan base and the massive one: no Eddie Howe.

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1 minute ago, Getsgoodfromthegetgo said:

Thread is getting embarrassing now lads. You're all like my mate who calls his ex missus a fat ugly slag. But only since she fucked him off..

 

You're getting embarrassing now

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2 minutes ago, Getsgoodfromthegetgo said:

Thread is getting embarrassing now lads. You're all like my mate who calls his ex missus a fat ugly slag. But only since she fucked him off..

 

Is his ex-missus a 40 year old scorcher and if so, is she still single ?

 

Asking for a friend

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52 minutes ago, Toon1984 said:

My take: it’s highly possible he’s already played the best football of his career. 
A different set of team mates, with a club that will have less team unity than NUFC, different system, much more quality competition for the shirt, less ‘adoring’ fan base and the massive one: no Eddie Howe.

This totally. We had a team more or less built around him, he was the main guy and worshipped for it. Then the £££signs started rolling in his eyes, so got the move to a 'bigger' club where he's no longer the hero, no longer the tip of the spear, and is not looking as good as a player as he was for us.  Its only a few games into the season so could go either way but is looking more like a Carroll trajectory than a Suarez one

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