Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[et tu brute]

Just now, gdm said:

Craig Hope suggests we are very much still interested in Wissa & Šeško 

 

 

Craig fucking Hope 

[Vinny Green Balls]

111.3 million

[Holloway]

I would love it if Krafthy scored our opening goal of the new season oh had on wrong thread 

[gdm]

6 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Craig fucking Hope 

he’s got a lot right this summer.

 

here’s Ben Jacobs saying we are preparing to bid again as well 

 

 

All this is hypothetical. Bizarre stance you are taking here. Pure guesswork while laughing at a well placed journalist. We’ll just go with what’s in your head then and call it a day because pointless arguing about it if you only accept what suits your narrative. 
 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2025 by gdm

[nufc123]

29 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

if he turns up of course.

Put his salary on hold if he doesnt. 

[Palestoon]

Has anyone actually presented a realistic scenario by which selling Isak for any amount of money this window makes sense from strictly a "what's best for the club" perspective? Outside of the fact people are sick of him

 

Even if we bring in Sesko, and you look at all of the possible outcomes, the best one for the football club still seems to be to hold onto Isak for another year regardless. What do we really risk forcing him to play another season here and letting him move next summer? If reports are true and he's planning to train when the team arrives back, he's clearly still planning for remaining as one of the options.

He may be sulky? so what, guy is a professional, and we've seen this scenario play out with other players before. He will want to preform, and its in the best interest of himself, and the club that he does, and they will both make whatever concessions are needed to make that happen. Worst case scenario, he's not up for it 100 percent, we have insurance in Sesko, and we can still sell him in January or the summer for a huge sum. Barring some sort of catastrophic injury, we will still fetch 100 mil+ easily for him by next summer. He will be an elite, 26 yr old striker with 2 years left on his contract. He'll have plenty of suitors. This scenario also has an outcome (although small) that is probably the best we could imagine. Isak and Sesko form a dynamic duo, and we make a deep push in the champions league and contend at the top of the table. Summer comes around and Isak has a change of heart, or if he still wants to go, we get big money for him with Sesko still on the books.

 

Selling him now presents so many more potential negative outcomes. Even with Sesko or Wissa or even both, you're not upgrading your starting striker spot this season. Sesko is an unproven 22 yr old coming from a league that has produced plenty of flops in England. And Wissa, although a much safer bet has only scored at an elite level for 1 season pushing 29 yrs of age. On top of that, both will be joining at virtually the start of the season with almost no time to get acclimated to the system, and the players around them. Its a very reasonable assumption that we struggle to get both of them up to speed for a few months, and by that time we severely damaged our season. 

 

I hope the club are thinking along the same lines. Its not as if we don't have the money already without an Isak sale to solidify our other positions to fill (CM,CB). Money for him this season or next season shouldn't have a long term effect on our finances either way. But a capitulation on the global football stage followed by a sub-par season could be disastrous for the clubs long term outlook.

 

[ianbeany]

Just watched Downies video on Youtube

 

He says if we sign Sesko we'll have to go back to Liverpool and say "look is there any chance you could give us a little bit more", but Liverpool are in a position of strength so we might have to sell for just 110 if they say no.

 

What the fuck is he going on about?  I'll be fucking fuming if it all plays out anything like that 

[Vinny Green Balls]

There is very good reason to be skeptical of the journalists right now. Craig Hope made it seem like Newcastle have very little choice in the matter but to get rid of Isak. Jordan pointed out some clear hypocrisy with the Paul Mitchell situation, and correctly called out the sensationalism. The likes of Hope may not have initiated this trasfer malarkey, but they have made a reality show saga out of it by mixing fact with their own speculation, and often blurring the lines of where one ends and the other begins.

 

As someone in the documentary field, and who takes veracity very seriously, I find this type of click driven reporting fiarly unethical, and all too common. It has nothing to do with what I want to be true. Whether he is right a lot or not, he is not just stating facts as he claims. 

[Shearergol]

2 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

Has anyone actually presented a realistic scenario by which selling Isak for any amount of money this window makes sense from strictly a "what's best for the club" perspective? Outside of the fact people are sick of him

 

Even if we bring in Sesko, and you look at all of the possible outcomes, the best one for the football club still seems to be to hold onto Isak for another year regardless. What do we really risk forcing him to play another season here and letting him move next summer? If reports are true and he's planning to train when the team arrives back, he's clearly still planning for remaining as one of the options.

He may be sulky? so what, guy is a professional, and we've seen this scenario play out with other players before. He will want to preform, and its in the best interest of himself, and the club that he does, and they will both make whatever concessions are needed to make that happen. Worst case scenario, he's not up for it 100 percent, we have insurance in Sesko, and we can still sell him in January or the summer for a huge sum. Barring some sort of catastrophic injury, we will still fetch 100 mil+ easily for him by next summer. He will be an elite, 26 yr old striker with 2 years left on his contract. He'll have plenty of suitors. This scenario also has an outcome (although small) that is probably the best we could imagine. Isak and Sesko form a dynamic duo, and we make a deep push in the champions league and contend at the top of the table. Summer comes around and Isak has a change of heart, or if he still wants to go, we get big money for him with Sesko still on the books.

 

Selling him now presents so many more potential negative outcomes. Even with Sesko or Wissa or even both, you're not upgrading your starting striker spot this season. Sesko is an unproven 22 yr old coming from a league that has produced plenty of flops in England. And Wissa, although a much safer bet has only scored at an elite level for 1 season pushing 29 yrs of age. On top of that, both will be joining at virtually the start of the season with almost no time to get acclimated to the system, and the players around them. Its a very reasonable assumption that we struggle to get both of them up to speed for a few months, and by that time we severely damaged our season. 

 

I hope the club are thinking along the same lines. Its not as if we don't have the money already without an Isak sale to solidify our other positions to fill (CM,CB). Money for him this season or next season shouldn't have a long term effect on our finances either way. But a capitulation on the global football stage followed by a sub-par season could be disastrous for the clubs long term outlook.

 

add them both, spend the extra on a top class creative midfielder and use the money we already have on a world class CB. It’s almost as easy as that. 

[gdm]

1 minute ago, ianbeany said:

Just watched Downies video on Youtube

 

He says if we sign Sesko we'll have to go back to Liverpool and say "look is there any chance you could give us a little bit more", but Liverpool are in a position of strength so we might have to sell for just 110 if they say no.

 

What the fuck is he going on about?  I'll be fucking fuming if it all plays out anything like that 

I suspect he’s suggesting we are using the Isak money in advance to get Šeško which seems so backwards. Why are doing Liverpool any favours here 

[Miggys First Goal]

Well that makes no sense since we were going to buy Ekitike and play him alongside Isak, so we wouldn’t have Isak money in that scenario and the fees are similar. 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2025 by Miggys First Goal

[1881]

If we can’t afford to sign Sesko and keep Isak from a PSR perspective then we are in a really tricky position. We can’t afford the risk of selling Isak before we have a replacement in. But if we sign Sesko and need to sell Isak then we are open (as Downie says) to Liverpool possibly even lowering their offer. Catch 22 unless we can afford to keep both.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2025 by 1881

[et tu brute]

11 minutes ago, gdm said:

he’s got a lot right this summer.

 

here’s Ben Jacobs saying we are preparing to bid again as well 

 

 

All this is hypothetical. Bizarre stance you are taking here. Pure guesswork while laughing at a well placed journalist. We’ll just go with what’s in your head then and call it a day because pointless arguing about it if you only accept what suits your narrative. 
 

 

 

 

You're always the same a total doom merchant. Well placed journos in Hope and Jacobs is a laugh. Anyway I leave you to carry on, I won't bother pulling you up again 

[Palestoon]

2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

add them both, spend the extra on a top class creative midfielder and use the money we already have on a world class CB. It’s almost as easy as that. 

 

I'm not convinced the current state of our recruiting team is capable of pulling off 4 deals in the next few weeks. Not to mention, the fact that we'd be dealing with the complications of teams trying to hold us to ransom with all of the Isak money in our pockets, the fact that at this point in the summer, teams will need to find replacements before they sell, and the fact that most of our top targets have already moved on. Just dont see the harm in getting another year out of Isak, letting Sesko (If he comes) bed in slowly, get our backroom set up in order, and then sell him next summer with a plan in place to re-invest properly.

[Kid Icarus]

12 minutes ago, ianbeany said:

Just watched Downies video on Youtube

 

He says if we sign Sesko we'll have to go back to Liverpool and say "look is there any chance you could give us a little bit more", but Liverpool are in a position of strength so we might have to sell for just 110 if they say no.

 

What the fuck is he going on about?  I'll be fucking fuming if it all plays out anything like that 

Exactly what I posted before. Blows my mind how his mind works.

[1881]

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Edited August 2, 2025 by 1881

[1881]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Exactly what I posted before. Blows my mind how his mind works.

What he said does make sense if we cannot afford to keep Sesko and Isak and therefore need to sell Isak to Liverpool. They would know this and could even lower their offer.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2025 by 1881

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

1 minute ago, 1881 said:

What he said does make sense if we cannot afford to keep Sesko and Isak and therefore need to sell Isak to Liverpool. They would know this and even lower their offer

[Civetty]

1 minute ago, 1881 said:

What he said does make sense if we cannot afford to keep Sesko and Isak and therefore need to sell Isak to Liverpool. They would know this and even lower their offer

 

Well, we hopefully could afford both. Problem is that its likely would come down us doing well in Champions league. Early exit and the vulptures will be circling above our heads.

[1881]

1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Being an old gadgie I don’t know what that means

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

1 minute ago, 1881 said:

Being an old gadgie I don’t know what that means

 

 

 

apologies just seen your DOB 

[Jonas]

7 minutes ago, 1881 said:

What he said does make sense if we cannot afford to keep Sesko and Isak and therefore need to sell Isak to Liverpool. They would know this and could even lower their offer.

 

 

 

We can though, so its redundant as a point. Isak is going next summer if not this and that fee more than covers Sesko's fee even if we didn't have a penny besides that, but we do.

[gdm]

14 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

You're always the same a total doom merchant. Well placed journos in Hope and Jacobs is a laugh. Anyway I leave you to carry on, I won't bother pulling you up again 

I think most people on here think we are going for Šeško & Wissa you are one being contrary with absolutely fuck all to base it on. I’ve gave you two sources saying we are going back in for Wissa you have gave me nothing but your own thoughts. 
 

also I think we’ll sign Wissa and Šeško how is that doom & gloom? Ahh because you can’t bare us to sell Isak. 
 

I won’t pull you up again 

[Stottie]

PSR wouldn't matter till next summer. Plenty of time to sell someone, and not necessarily Isak. A low-in-June release clause for Isak would pretty much guarantee we'd be fine.

 

If we sign Wissa, he should be sounded out for a future move to Saudi. Same goes for Joelinton. To get this to work, PIF club overpays for player from non-PIF club, with that club then buying Wissa/Joelinton type workaround would be the go. 

[et tu brute]

9 minutes ago, gdm said:

I think most people on here think we are going for Šeško & Wissa you are one being contrary with absolutely fuck all to base it on. I’ve gave you two sources saying we are going back in for Wissa you have gave me nothing but your own thoughts. 
 

also I think we’ll sign Wissa and Šeško how is that doom & gloom? Ahh because you can’t bare us to sell Isak. 
 

I won’t pull you up again