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15 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash.


It made it a much stronger competition. Feels like a slightly better Conference League now.

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18 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash.


Fucking English fans thinking the PL is some kind of quality label :lol: 

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1 minute ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

Tbh I would love to see Man city in europa next season after spending 100s of millions in the summer. It would make the whole thing look like the unserious joke it has now become.


Unserious? Because it’s the most entertaining of the European competitions last time I checked.

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1 minute ago, Sempiternal said:

The upside of Lyon being shit is Cherki hopefully will pull the classic enfant terrible, and we can get him cheap. 

They need to sell to stave of relegation in anyway.

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3 minutes ago, Kaizero said:


Fucking English fans thinking the PL is some kind of quality label :lol: 

 

The sheer financial power means they're stronger and will start winning this competition on the regular even if they're absolutely shite. That's my point and it's shit. It's probably going to be an all English final this year with two teams who are barely above relegation in an ordinary season.

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Just now, Kaizero said:


Unserious? Because it’s the most entertaining of the European competitions last time I checked.

In the same way the ZDS cup was more entertaining than the FA Cup.

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10 minutes ago, Kaizero said:


Fucking English fans thinking the PL is some kind of quality label :lol: 

Two bottom half PL teams are still in because they've had substantially more investment than other clubs in the competition. I get that you're trying to back the competition because a Norwegian team are still in it but his point is entirely valid

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Just now, Ginola said:

Two bottom half PL teams are still in because they've had substantially more investment than other clubs in the competition. I get that you're trying to back the competition because a Norwegian team are still in it but his point is entirely valid


No, two PL teams have lucked their way to the semis against better opposition. I’ve always maintained that any match the EL and EC is streeta ahead of any CL fixture between the same old teams that play in the year in, year our. If you don’t support a team playing in it, watching a CL fixture feels like absolute torture. Boring, shit, predictive fixtures between team more aftraid of losing than they’d enjoy winning.

 

The CL is absolute shit, the saddest thing abour our own rise is that I won’t get to see us play another season in the EL before we join the cycle of repetitiveness ourselves.

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1 minute ago, Kaizero said:


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God bless «second rate» cup competitions, IMO.

 

If anything the League Cup has become more serious this decade. Largely due to Man City and Liverpool treating it with so much respect.

 

It's not a slight against Bodo, they've done incredibly well to reach the SF. But Bilbao were by far the strongest team left in the last eight. It doesn't mean that it's not entertaining, just that the quality of side involved has been diluted.

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6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

If anything the League Cup has become more serious this decade. Largely due to Man City and Liverpool treating it with so much respect.

 

It's not a slight against Bodo, they've done incredibly well to reach the SF. But Bilbao were by far the strongest team left in the last eight. It doesn't mean that it's not entertaining, just that the quality of side involved has been diluted.

 

 

Not just that, although that is the main thing, but how hard it is to win that cup.

 

I am seriously backtracking as I said before the Man U final and only thought it before the Liverpool final that it wasn't a priority at all. One lad on here did sway me when he said his father was getting very old and he wanted to see his team win silverware while his dad was still around. That did resonate with me but I have to admit, I was DEAD WRONG. That final and that parade was the most fun I've had in more years than I can remember sporting wise. Onwards and upwards.

 

 

edit: I was thousands of miles away and still had a wonderful time.

 

 

Edited by McDog

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3 minutes ago, Kaizero said:


No, two PL teams have lucked their way to the semis against better opposition. I’ve always maintained that any match the EL and EC is streeta ahead of any CL fixture between the same old teams that play in the year in, year our. If you don’t support a team playing in it, watching a CL fixture feels like absolute torture. Boring, shit, predictive fixtures between team more aftraid of losing than they’d enjoy winning.

 

The CL is absolute shit, the saddest thing abour our own rise is that I won’t get to see us play another season in the EL before we join the cycle of repetitiveness ourselves.

Waffle. I watch plenty of football and the best by a distance has been PSG in the CL this season. Barca have also been brilliant to watch

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13 minutes ago, Kaizero said:


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God bless «second rate» cup competitions, IMO.

 

Second rate cups that include some of the best teams in Europe that are byed to the latter stages and the favourites to win the Europa

or second rate cups that don't include any of the best teams in Europe that will probably end up having two clubs that would be fighting relegation battles most seasons contesting the final of.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Ginola said:

Waffle. I watch plenty of football and the best by a distance has been PSG in the CL this season. Barca have also been brilliant to watch


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You say what you say implying I don’t  watch any football :lol: I’ve watched Peruvian 3rd tier matches just to watch football when nothing else has been on at 3am, among other random matches, since I was a child.

 

I’d rather watch a Legia Warzaw vs. Red Star Belgrade EL qualifying fixture than than being forced to watch a Barcelona/Real Madrid vs. Inter/PSG/Bayern (or any other of the repetitive turgid clubs usually getting there) final - 10 out of 10 times. It’s the final result of FIFA & UEFA’s dream; turning football into a soulless money printing machine in competition format.

 

At the moment, for now at least, the EL and the EC feel like the anthesis of that.

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12 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

 

Second rate cups that include some of the best teams in Europe that are byed to the latter stages and the favourites to win the Europa

or second rate cups that don't include any of the best teams in Europe that will probably end up having two clubs that would be fighting relegation battles most seasons contesting the final of.


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There’s no reason for you to even try, your «competition value» double-standard is so god damned high you might seriously injure yourself in the fall down.

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You could argue the recent competition format change for the EL and the EC have been an attempt to squeeze more money out of the European competitions, and have absolutely nothing to do with giving the lesser clubs a chance at a European cup.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Kaizero said:


No, two PL teams have lucked their way to the semis against better opposition. I’ve always maintained that any match the EL and EC is streeta ahead of any CL fixture between the same old teams that play in the year in, year our. If you don’t support a team playing in it, watching a CL fixture feels like absolute torture. Boring, shit, predictive fixtures between team more aftraid of losing than they’d enjoy winning.

 

The CL is absolute shit, the saddest thing abour our own rise is that I won’t get to see us play another season in the EL before we join the cycle of repetitiveness ourselves.

 

Two days after that Villa-PSG spectacle?

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