Disco Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 West Ham lead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, LionOfGosforth said: If by star you mean overpriced flop, robbing massive wages for little in return, aye Hasn’t Pogba been injured for most of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Would love to see Chiesa, on the other hand, come back close to what he was, he was fantastic before the injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, Pata said: Hasn’t Pogba been injured for most of the season? Possibly, haven't seen a ton of Italian footy this year, was more a comment on his career past few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Cuadrado feels like he's been at Juve for years, his Chelsea days seem like a lifetime ago, thought he was decent bac then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Serie Z more like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Juve level and after my prior comments, of course Pogba was involved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 After all feast of high quality action this week it's going to be a real come down tomorrow when we all tune into Sheff Wed Vs Peterborough for our Football Fix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Conference League is a joke competition, what was the point in it? If we won it I wouldn't really see it as a trophy win tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said: Conference League is a joke competition, what was the point in it? If we won it I wouldn't really see it as a trophy win tbh. Ridiculous take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Conference League is a joke competition, what was the point in it? If we won it I wouldn't really see it as a trophy win tbh. It would sit above a League Cup straight away for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I’m glad Europe has three tournaments again. I get why the Cup Winner’s Cup was scrapped - most European nations don’t give a shite about their domestic cups. But there was a massive hole caused by its absence and a bloated revised European Cup. Personally, I’d happily see the European Cup to return to being what it was, which would help restore Eastern European football. No chance that’s happening now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Conference League is a joke competition, what was the point in it? If we won it I wouldn't really see it as a trophy win tbh. Loads of money gets distributed to smaller leagues and teams, such an elitist view to bash it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Conference League is a joke competition, what was the point in it? If we won it I wouldn't really see it as a trophy win tbh. eh? i still count our fairs cup triumph as a massive achievement. always were 3 euro competitions till they scrapped the CWC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It would sit above a League Cup straight away for me. Really? Not for me the level of opposition in it is really poor. Plus the LC has history. I'm probably been a bit harsh considering it's only been around a year or so but it just seems a bit of a farce competition to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I don't know why the UECL exists tbph. If they wanted clubs from lesser leagues involved in UEFA competitions they should've either expanded the Europa League or had the UECL as a tournament for just those lesser leagues, offering a chance of getting into the Europa League by winning it rather than being dumped out of third or fourth qualifying round which is what tended to happen. Either that or bring the Cup Winners' Cup back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I also don't like the group stages with the Europa League. From what I remember the UEFA Cup was just straight KO all the way through wasn't it? It was more fun when it was like that was almost like the CL was group stages and UEFA a straight KO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Really? Not for me the level of opposition in it is really poor. Plus the LC has history. I'm probably been a bit harsh considering it's only been around a year or so but it just seems a bit of a farce competition to me. They all have to start somewhere History means a lot too - but it’s UEFA’s third competition. I’m really glad they’ve started it up - and that Roma won the first iteration, which raises the profile. I personally hate what the ‘Champions League’ has become - the nadir was the Liverpool vs Spurs final - two clubs which hadn’t won a domestic title in a combined total of c.90 years vying to become champions of Europe. Fucking ludicrous. There’s no fixing that now, but a third tournament means more clubs have a chance to compete, and it presents a chance for some of the nations which used to be competitive to be so in Europe again. 8 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I don't know why the UECL exists tbph. If they wanted clubs from lesser leagues involved in UEFA competitions they should've either expanded the Europa League or had the UECL as a tournament for just those lesser leagues, offering a chance of getting into the Europa League by winning it rather than being dumped out of third or fourth qualifying round which is what tended to happen. Either that or bring the Cup Winners' Cup back. No, it’s absolutely correct that all European nations have entries. I detest the smug elitism of the ‘big five’ European leagues. As if fucking PSG or RB Leipzig have better pedigree than Dynamo Kiev, Steaua Bucharest or Red Star Belgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: I also don't like the group stages with the Europa League. From what I remember the UEFA Cup was just straight KO all the way through wasn't it? It was more fun when it was like that was almost like the CL was group stages and UEFA a straight KO. All European comps were straight knockouts until 1992 when the European Cup changed to ‘Champions League’ and added a group stage - though weirdly the groups decided the finalists. The group stages are only about two things: more money from more games, and ensuring the ‘big boys’ can recover from losses against ‘lesser clubs’. It’s sporting cowardice, but Berlusconi and co in the mid-90s were terrified of the AC Milans and Barcelonas of the world losing too early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 @TheBrownBottle totally agree with you on all of that. Can't think of any good reason to dislike the existence of the Conference League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: @TheBrownBottle totally agree with you on all of that. Can't think of any good reason to dislike the existence of the Conference League. Yeah, I think it’s definitely a good thing. One of the few ‘credits in the bank’ for UEFA in recent times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Ironically, considering recent events, the Champions League was introduced specifically to head off the threat of a breakaway European super league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Surely more clubs having access to European football can only be a good thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Quote I think the group stages make sense even in Conference League. The monetary gains for clubs from smaller leagues are huge and the guaranteed six games are better than one home game and away game before being knocked out. If I calculated right, HJK Helsinki gained 3.9 million euros just from prize money from the Conference League. Their wage bill for 2022 is approximately 2 million so the money gained just from winning two games in the group stages is absolutely staggering. European games are a massive bonus for fans too, I have no idea why it would have to be limited only to the biggest clubs in Europe who are swimming in cash any way and whose fans are having hard time taking even Europa League seriously. This is a post a made a year ago in the same conversation. Conference League is class and the monetary gains are really meaningful. ~3 million euros to a random Armenian team is nuts and should hopefully really help whole country's player production in the future. Edited May 11, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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