alexf Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Not underestimating the job still to do in the 2nd leg. But I totally get the thoughts regards Liverpool or Spurs as opponents. What I would say is this set of players have beaten spurs 3 out of the last 4 times. That has to inject belief and confidence and help improve our chances on the day. Whereas on the flip side, this Howe team have never beaten Liverpool, although we're inching closer each time. Would be interesting but if we both reach the final, do we play Liverpool again in the league before it? Not sure if that would be good or bad. Edited January 9 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 If we get to the Final and it's a big if. If we get there Supermac will destroy Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: If we get to the Final and it's a big if. If we get there Supermac will destroy Liverpool *sound of Emlyn Hughes’ squeaky cunt laugh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: *sound of Emlyn Hughes’ squeaky cunt laugh* In 1974 before the FA Cup Final Newcastle United and Liverpool had won just about the same amount of trophies, can you believe that ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: In 1974 before the FA Cup Final Newcastle United and Liverpool had won just about the same amount of trophies, can you believe that ! Yeah, it’s incredible, isn’t it? When we played Arsenal in the 1998 final we’d also played in the same number of finals as them. Now they’ve been in 21 to our 13 … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yeah, it’s incredible, isn’t it? When we played Arsenal in the 1998 final we’d also played in the same number of finals as them. Now they’ve been in 21 to our 13 … I never knew that. WOW ! We just have to win a trophy soon....at least before I snuff it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Theregulars said: I would absolutely and obviously much rather play Spurs were we to manage to get through. We are more likely to win a trophy in that eventuality. Thinking in advance about the less embarrassing outcome if we lose is proper muggle chat. It’s not embarrassment. It’s pain. I’ll enjoy the final against Liverpool no matter what. Against Spurs I’ll believe we will win, so losing would hurt so much more. If there’s one ‘top’ team we should beat its spurs. Which is why it would hurt so much to lose to them. 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Yous know exactly what we mean though. If we go through they're the better team for us to play absolutely no doubt, but just imagine if they somehow weren't Spursy and ended their trophy drought to the one club more allergic to them than them. It doesn't bear thinking about. Exactly. We might actually be ultimate Spurs - I don’t want to see it. 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m amused at NUFC supporters juggling in their head who they want in the final due to the disappointments of the past while seeming blissfully unaware that we still have to actually finish the job against a really good Arsenal side. The most NUFC thing ever wouldn’t be to lose to Spurs in a final; it would be to lose 2-0 at home to Arsenal and go out on pens That’s par for the course. To Arsenal? Absolutely. I can handle that. That’s normal. 2 hours ago, Danh1 said: Beat them at Old Trafford last time we played on neutral ground. Unsure of anything else. One thing I will say is that if we do get to the final, our support needs to be far better than it was last time. Didn’t bother doing anything til the 85th minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It’s not embarrassment. It’s pain. I’ll enjoy the final against Liverpool no matter what. Against Spurs I’ll believe we will win, so losing would hurt so much more. If there’s one ‘top’ team we should beat its spurs. Which is why it would hurt so much to lose to them. Exactly. We might actually be ultimate Spurs - I don’t want to see it. That’s par for the course. To Arsenal? Absolutely. I can handle that. That’s normal. I’m yet to experience a cup final defeat which didn’t hurt despite expecting all of them. I’ve got far less dislike for Spurs than I had for Man Utd in the ‘90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, gdm said: Plenty of managers I dislike, but Ange is certainly not one of them. You'll never agree with everything a manager says, not even your own. After all, it's a game of opinions. But in a world full of boring, monotone managers, he's charismatic, direct, forthright and stands by his players. What I like most is that he calls out interviewers and pushes back against their shit, snide questions. He won't have it, and I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: Plenty of managers I dislike, but Ange is certainly not one of them. You'll never agree with everything a manager says, not even your own. After all, it's a game of opinions. But in a world full of boring, monotone managers, he's charismatic, direct, forthright and stands by his players. What I like most is that he calls out interviewers and pushes back against their shit, snide questions. He won't have it, and I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 perfect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I guess this is on an earlier page, but the final is Sun March 16. If still in Europa, Spurs would play three days before on Mar 13. There would be a CL game for Liverpool on Mar 11 or Mar 12. Assuming we get through, I'd rather face Spurs than Liverpool. Most of it is down to Mo Salah winning games on his own like a cheat code. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Don't know if this has been covered or not but if we get to the final and loose to Liverpool they are nailed on for champions league for the league would we then be in Europe as runners up if our own league position doesn't get us there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 25 minutes ago, MagMal said: Don't know if this has been covered or not but if we get to the final and loose to Liverpool they are nailed on for champions league for the league would we then be in Europe as runners up if our own league position doesn't get us there? No, runners-up in the LC have never qualified (unlike the FA Cup) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 45 minutes ago, MagMal said: Don't know if this has been covered or not but if we get to the final and loose to Liverpool they are nailed on for champions league for the league would we then be in Europe as runners up if our own league position doesn't get us there? Loose means baggy Lose means more Wembley heartbreak Edited January 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just watching the Ange post-match interview. Really embarrassing how he tries to backpaddle on his "fair and equal" comments from last week when getting asked if Bergvall should've been sent off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Would feel confident of beating Spurs, with Liverpool its more a case of hope rather than belief, having said that a full strength Spurs would still be a very tough game but its a no brainer who you would rather play of the two teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, BlazeT44 said: Plenty of managers I dislike, but Ange is certainly not one of them. You'll never agree with everything a manager says, not even your own. After all, it's a game of opinions. But in a world full of boring, monotone managers, he's charismatic, direct, forthright and stands by his players. What I like most is that he calls out interviewers and pushes back against their shit, snide questions. He won't have it, and I'm all for it. The handball rules rules are pretty clear too, but it didn't stop him acting like a child after the game against us. Most managers seem likeable after their team has won, the test comes when they lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, BlazeT44 said: Plenty of managers I dislike, but Ange is certainly not one of them. You'll never agree with everything a manager says, not even your own. After all, it's a game of opinions. But in a world full of boring, monotone managers, he's charismatic, direct, forthright and stands by his players. What I like most is that he calls out interviewers and pushes back against their shit, snide questions. He won't have it, and I'm all for it. You don't happen to be from Australia by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, simonsays said: The handball rules rules are pretty clear too, but it didn't stop him acting like a child after the game against us. Most managers seem likeable after their team has won, the test comes when they lose. I'd really disagree that the handball rule is clear. The consistency in which the handball law is applied isn't particularly great. Specifically when it comes to awarding penalties for handball. I didn't agree with him the other day (I'm biased of course) but as I said, it's a game of opinions. To be fair, if the roles were reversed and Madison handled the ball accidentally and Son scored as a result, I think many here would have been annoyed. Edited January 9 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Nobody said: You don't happen to be from Australia by any chance? Absolutely not I wish to be fair. It'd beat being freezing cold snow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, BlazeT44 said: Plenty of managers I dislike, but Ange is certainly not one of them. You'll never agree with everything a manager says, not even your own. After all, it's a game of opinions. But in a world full of boring, monotone managers, he's charismatic, direct, forthright and stands by his players. What I like most is that he calls out interviewers and pushes back against their shit, snide questions. He won't have it, and I'm all for it. You’ve not had to have him up in Scotland for 2 years. His shite soon wears off. I dislike both Celtic & rangers so it’s no bias. The mask certainly slipped at the weekend. His jolly Aussie mate routine only lasts if things are going his way. we’ve all seen his comments after the clearly wrong offside goal he benefitted from v Liverpool last season about how he would never questions the officials etc. when it didn’t go his way the officials are worse than shit on a shoe night and day Edited January 9 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: I'd really disagree that the handball rule is clear. The consistency in which the handball law is applied isn't particularly great. Specifically when it comes to awarding penalties for handball. I didn't agree with him the other day (I'm biased of course) but as I said, it's a game of opinions. To be fair, if the roles were reversed and Madison handled the ball accidentally and Son scored as a result, I think many here would have been annoyed. Just because it isn't applied consistently doesn't mean the rule isn't clear. It was explained by the officials during and after the game. Ange seems pretty clued up on the rules when they work in his favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: I'd really disagree that the handball rule is clear. The consistency in which the handball law is applied isn't particularly great. Specifically when it comes to awarding penalties for handball. I didn't agree with him the other day (I'm biased of course) but as I said, it's a game of opinions. To be fair, if the roles were reversed and Madison handled the ball accidentally and Son scored as a result, I think many here would have been annoyed. Just because it isn't applied consistently doesn't mean the rule isn't clear. It was explained by the officials during and after the game. Ange seems pretty clued up on the rules when they work in his favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, BergenMagpie said: Just watching the Ange post-match interview. Really embarrassing how he tries to backpaddle on his "fair and equal" comments from last week when getting asked if Bergvall should've been sent off Yep. He’s clearly seen it as an opportunity to worm his way out with him facing a charge for them. He’s said a few things already that have come back to bite him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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