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2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I can’t remember Bolton under Allardyce but I’m choosing to think they were horrific and bailed out by Anelka being amazing 

Think Anelka was right at the end, but yeah Kevin Davies and Nolan were grim, although Okocha, Djorkaeff, and Campo made them quite watchable.

 

Man United winning the league in Fergie's last season comes to mind, maybe Spurs finishing 4th under Conte.

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8 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Forest have got me wondering, what's the worst but most successful team you've seen in the league?

Aside from Leicester?

 

I mean honestly, MON’s Aston Villa.

It was just filled with English cloggers who had failed at the big 6 clubs, in an era when the English premium was just coming in. They were nothing special, and a bunch of overrated overhyped players, and they finished 6th twice. I think they only finished 6th because the rest of the league was fucking shit.

 

That team summed up MON as a manager to me. Absolutely fucking nothing about him, but looked good because at both Celtic, and Aston Villa he had the money which resulted in him finishing where he did. The Leicester League Cups aside, he was a fucking shit manager without money.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Forest have got me wondering, what's the worst but most successful team you've seen in the league?

Probably Norwich in the first PL season for as high as 3rd, were more fun to watch though.

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7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Forest have got me wondering, what's the worst but most successful team you've seen in the league?

Our 5th place season under Pardew, despite some decent performances in the latter half of the season. 

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

Champions League brings in a lot of money mate. 

Not really. We showed it ourselves, if you are new to Europe or home a long gap without it, you don’t get as much Champions League money.

 

I fail to see how Forest can sustain it beyond this season. Their owner isn’t as rich as he’d made out to be. He’s actually in the 3rd quarter of richest owners in the league. His wealth is equal to what the Saudi’s are said to be paying for our new stadium. Aside from this he also own Olympiacos, which are his boyhood club, his true passion, and are arguably the bigger of his 2 clubs on the European stage.

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11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Forest have got me wondering, what's the worst but most successful team you've seen in the league?

 

David Moyes' Everton finished 4th with a side consisting of Alan Stubbs, Alessandro Pistone, Thomas Gravesen, Lee Carsley and Marcus Bent.

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10 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Aside from Leicester?

 

I mean honestly, MON’s Aston Villa.

It was just filled with English cloggers who had failed at the big 6 clubs, in an era when the English premium was just coming. They were nothing special, and a bunch of overrated overhyped players, and they finished 6th. I think they only finished 6th because the rest of the league was fucking shit.

 

That team summed up MON as a manager to me. Absolutely fucking nothing about him, but looked good because at both Celtic, and Aston Villa he had the money which resulted in him finishing where he did. The Leicester League Cups aside, he was a fucking shit manager without money.

 

 

 

Can't ever say a bad word about the guy for his first managerial job at Wycombe where he achieved  successive promotions.

 

I think he was very old school people manager who got the best out of players 

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Man do I wish this utter rubbish Man U side were actually close to some actual trouble. As it is, they'll finish lower mid table at worst, which of course is a disgrace from them, but as bad as they've been, it would have been glorious if they were at least close to the relegation zone. 

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Forest have got me wondering, what's the worst but most successful team you've seen in the league?

 

Ipswich 00/01. They seemed to lose in the Play-Offs every year, they sold Dyer to us, finally got promoted that season, then finished 5th with the likes of Wright, Bramble, Venus, Holland & Stewart. Took it to the last game to finish 3rd which would have been Champions League. 

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Aston Villa 89/90 is a shout. In the middle of being relegation material either side went and finished 2nd - top as late as late March.

Other than David Platt and Paul McGrath who were good the regulars were - Ian Olney, Ian Ormondroyd, Chris Price, Stuart Gray, Paul Birch, Kent Nielson, Derek Mountfield, a decripit Gordon Cowans, Tony Daley and Kevin Gage. No marks who never did anything again.

Going against a Liverpool that included: Rush, Aldridge, Barnes, Beardsley, Grobelaar, Whelan, Nicol, McMahon, Molby and Alan Hansen.

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Ipswich 00/01. They seemed to lose in the Play-Offs every year, they sold Dyer to us, finally got promoted that season, then finished 5th with the likes of Wright, Bramble, Venus, Holland & Stewart. Took it to the last game to finish 3rd which would have been Champions League. 


Martijn Reuser too. 

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8 hours ago, Stifler said:

Aside from Leicester?

 

I mean honestly, MON’s Aston Villa.

It was just filled with English cloggers who had failed at the big 6 clubs, in an era when the English premium was just coming. They were nothing special, and a bunch of overrated overhyped players, and they finished 6th. I think they only finished 6th because the rest of the league was fucking shit.

 

That team summed up MON as a manager to me. Absolutely fucking nothing about him, but looked good because at both Celtic, and Aston Villa he had the money which resulted in him finishing where he did. The Leicester League Cups aside, he was a fucking shit manager without money.

 

 

 

Absolutely bang on this. I hated them as well at the time. Full of divers and cheats. MON thinking he was some sort of modern day Clough used to really get on my nerves as well. 
 

I’m pleased he was phased out like most of the dinosaurs from that era 

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The Villa side with Gareth Barry, James Milner, Ashley Young, Downing, Delph, Bent etc.? Good side that.

 

Not many fancy foreigners but lots of good young English PL players.

 

Young - Milner - Barry - Downing all in their prime. That's a very good PL midfield, especially for that era. Excellent professionals and characters to have in a squad. The first 3 would play PL football late into their 30s and be dependable players in multiple league-winning sides. Young & Milner winning league titles with 2 clubs. Downing himself got a Liverpool move too and I think he was ok from memory

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