Wolfcastle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 4 hours ago, Paullow said: Looks like it's going to go at least 17 years since we last played the Berra. Must be at the point neither set of fans thinks we have a rivallry now instead of just us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 My favourite Smoggies are the ones who go on about how they’re all from Yorkshire, and their real rivals are Leeds Face facts lads - it’s Hartlepool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 hours ago, The Bonk said: I still remember their shite patter “Geordie’s at home watching The Bill” or whatever it was when they fluked that Euro run. Bad enough having the Mackems in the same league, never mind these ghouls. And the “trophy virgins” shite despite us having won 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: My favourite Smoggies are the ones who go on about how they’re all from Yorkshire, and their real rivals are Leeds Face facts lads - it’s Hartlepool I’m from Hartlepool, I take offence at your suggestion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 13 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’m from Hartlepool, I take offence at your suggestion Quite right - it’s Darlington for Hartlepool. The Smoggies have no-one who gives a shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Southampton spying was definitely wrong but no way should they be kicked out. Boro had a chance to beat them and failed to do so, you can't then go back and reward them with a place in the final when they haven't been good enough to qualify for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 At least that lad who was probably a mackem trying to get bites won't be back in the mackem thread banging on about how the beasts is our real derby and how much he's looking forward to playing them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: Southampton spying was definitely wrong but no way should they be kicked out. Boro had a chance to beat them and failed to do so, you can't then go back and reward them with a place in the final when they haven't been good enough to qualify for it. To be honest, I vaguely remember the original 'spygate' involving Leeds, but didn't realise there was now an actual EFL rule that you cant observe an opponents training within 72hrs of a match. I agree Southampton shouldn't lose their playoff place because of it. But it's one of them, the rule appears to have been broken, but Burra just using it as a potential route to the final, when they were still unable to beat Southampton over 2 legs + ET tells it all, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: Southampton spying was definitely wrong but no way should they be kicked out. Boro had a chance to beat them and failed to do so, you can't then go back and reward them with a place in the final when they haven't been good enough to qualify for it. Leeds got a £200k fine under Bielsa. They’ll double it for Southampton who’ll laugh it off as they bank £200m for PL participation and parachute payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, TK-421 said: To be honest, I vaguely remember the original 'spygate' involving Leeds, but didn't realise there was now an actual EFL rule that you cant observe an opponents training within 72hrs of a match. I agree Southampton shouldn't lose their playoff place because of it. But it's one of them, the rule appears to have been broken, but Burra just using it as a potential route to the final, when they were still unable to beat Southampton over 2 legs + ET tells it all, really. Wouldn’t the flip side be that they only lost to Southampton in the last five minutes of 2 legs and ET, so any advantage Southampton might have gained by spying could have actually tipped the balance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 4 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Wouldn’t the flip side be that they only lost to Southampton in the last five minutes of 2 legs and ET, so any advantage Southampton might have gained by spying could have actually tipped the balance? It's still cheating whatever way it worked out for them. Hate that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 The way Southampton carried on last night at times it was like collective delayed PTSD from Murphy waving that lad off in the semi-final that time kicked in and they finally decided they were going to bite back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Like we need Southampton stinking out the PL again. Fucking hate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 If it's proved to have been a regular thing and not just a one-off. I think they should be given more than a fine like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, TK-421 said: I agree Southampton shouldn't lose their playoff place because of it. But it's one of them, the rule appears to have been broken, but Burra just using it as a potential route to the final, when they were still unable to beat Southampton over 2 legs + ET tells it all, really. This is the only occasion we know of because they've been caught What if they've been doing it all season which has aided them getting a playoff place in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 It’s the stupidest rule in the history of football. Teams used to train in public - what exactly are they really going to learn about the opposition that they didn’t know already? Storm in a teacup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 13 minutes ago, joeyt said: This is the only occasion we know of because they've been caught What if they've been doing it all season which has aided them getting a playoff place in the first place? Weez Keyz did a bit on this the other day: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/may/10/southampton-spygate-middlesbrough-championship-playoffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidg Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Eddie never said he threw the away PL fixture at Liverpool last season, but he did allude to deliberately saving certain tactics for the cup final in an effort to wrongfoot Slot. If Liverpool spied our preparation for Wembley, the result might have been very different. That's how I'm looking at it. Strict punishment is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s the stupidest rule in the history of football. Teams used to train in public - what exactly are they really going to learn about the opposition that they didn’t know already? Storm in a teacup. They felt they'd learn enough as to spy on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Just now, KennyUtd said: They felt they'd learn enough as to spy on them. That’s true, but it just sounds like high farce. They’re not the SAS planning a raid - I’d love to know if the Smoggies did something so radical in that match that only hiding under a hedge like a porn stash would suffice. Like they were playing a 6-1-3 formation or they were playing their keeper on the left wing. I’m willing to bet Boro lined up and played in the way anyone mildly observant could’ve predicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 19 minutes ago, Sidg said: Eddie never said he threw the away PL fixture at Liverpool last season, but he did allude to deliberately saving certain tactics for the cup final in an effort to wrongfoot Slot. If Liverpool spied our preparation for Wembley, the result might have been very different. That's how I'm looking at it. Strict punishment is needed. Tend to agree. If the penalty is just a fine then I guess you almost have to try and spy on your opponent when the prize of winning is many times higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 34 minutes ago, Sidg said: Eddie never said he threw the away PL fixture at Liverpool last season, but he did allude to deliberately saving certain tactics for the cup final in an effort to wrongfoot Slot. If Liverpool spied our preparation for Wembley, the result might have been very different. That's how I'm looking at it. Strict punishment is needed. It could've been something as simple as watching them drill penalties. There can't be that much data on where the 4th or 5th penalty taker puts their pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 The thought of a team spying on our training sessions and knowing what our tactics and lineup will be is terrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 59 minutes ago, Kimbo said: The thought of a team spying on our training sessions and knowing what our tactics and lineup will be is terrifying. Not much to see this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kimbo said: The thought of a team spying on our training sessions and knowing what our tactics and lineup will be is terrifying. Steve Bruce: Can’t spy on our training sessions if you give me the lads the days off from training. Edited May 13 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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