madras Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: You try to explaining that to a gang of little Geordie radgies playing 7 a side with a caser ball on waste ground with jumpers for goalposts in Thatchers Britain Rush keeper - the kid in goal can play outfield and it’s agreed he won’t get paggered for doing it by either his own team or the opposition Fog man back - anyone can be keeper, but only the 1st defender to reach the goalmouth can handle the ball without getting paggered by the opposition Any other interpretations are sheer lunacy Thatchers bloody Britain. Fog man back and rush keeper were the same thing as far back as Heath's Britain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Exiled in Texas said: Being pedantic… goalies are not restricted from playing out /up field. They are just the only ones permitted to use their hands which is why their shirt is a different color. But they can go anywhere on the field they want. So by definition then rush-goalies has to be first-man-back. Else it’s just the keeper playing up/back [/pedant] That's why I so confidently stated rush in the first place. There was a Wiki article I found https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_goalie that seems to infer its unsurprisingly usually to even up teams with uneven numbers up but I still don't understand what extra rule it's actually implementing considering a 'keeper can venture upfield if they really wanted to anyway. Granted I'm a southerner here so I'm fighting a losing battle if no one up north deemed rush goalies the same as me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, madras said: Thatchers bloody Britain. Fog man back and rush keeper were the same thing as far back as Heath's Britain Possibly so, but I was conceived in '77 and wasn't playing footy on the streets in the Heath years Edited February 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 And as a schoolboy in the early 80s…. The name “rush goalies” always confused me as Ian Rush never played goalie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, Exiled in Texas said: And as a schoolboy in the early 80s…. The name “rush goalies” always confused me as Ian Rush never played goalie Same for me, just assumed it was associated with him like keepers can come out and do a Rush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 08/02/2024 at 22:08, McCormick said: I’m assuming everyone had the rule of “nee blasties” in the D, yeah? Nee blasties was more when you didn’t have something closeish behind the goal to stop the ball for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The FA want Gareth Southgate to extend his contract until the 2026 World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, FCB said: The FA want Gareth Southgate to extend his contract until the 2026 World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 11 minutes ago, Disco said: Nee blasties was more when you didn’t have something closeish behind the goal to stop the ball for us. Did toe punting count as Blasties? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Numbers said: Did toe punting count as Blasties? Arguably the ultimate blastie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, Numbers said: Did toe punting count as Blasties? Toe punts with penny floaters man ffs, pound shop Roberto Carlos incoming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Got to say, as we weren’t allowed to play with a proper ball, I absolutely fucking loved playing on the yard with a tenniser when I was youngun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 15 minutes ago, NE27 said: Toe punts with penny floaters man ffs, pound shop Roberto Carlos incoming. My mate popped many a penny floater with his Puma G Vilas, something about them used to pop them for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 08/02/2024 at 09:03, loki679 said: Rush goalies was when the keeper could play outfield too. There was another one for anyone in the box could be keeper, can't remember what it was called. Spot goalies maybe? 'Any man save' for us. (vs stick, rush, or fog man back) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) On 08/02/2024 at 14:00, TheBrownBottle said: They were both the same. A goalie can play outfield normally. One rule we did sometimes play is that any ‘fog man back’ or ‘rush goalie’ wasn’t allowed to cross halfway in normal play. So effectively a few players could be ‘it’ if they’re back first, but those players had to stay in their own half Rush and fog man were not the same, not for us anyway. As others said Rush is an assigned keeper that can come out. Yes, that's what any keeper can do in pros - but 'rush' was significant because as a kid you could also have 'stick' keepers, where the keeper was not allowed to come out. E.g. against a group of older lads that dominate the game you might want them to have stick, because a rush keeper would help dominate their attack. Edited February 10 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Rush = assigned keeper who can come out the area (often played) Stick = assigned keeper who can’t come the area (often played) Spot = deepest player only can use their hands (rarely played) Rush keeper only usually used if it was uneven teams but often with the additional rule you’d have to score from close to the goal and not just punts upfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Disco said: Rush = assigned keeper who can come out the area (often played) Stick = assigned keeper who can’t come the area (often played) Spot = deepest player only can use their hands (rarely played) Reckon we did Stick, Rush or Any Man Save a lot. We did Fog Man Back occasionally but preferred Any Man Save since it's just simpler than determining who is furthest back in a crowded box - no VAR lines necessary. Nee blasties could either be because the ball would go far away, but also cos it was a reluctant keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Reckon we did Stick, Rush or Any Man Save a lot. We did Fog Man Back occasionally but preferred Any Man Save since it's just simpler than determining who is furthest back in a crowded box - no VAR lines necessary. Nee blasties could either be because the ball would go far away, but also cos it was a reluctant keeper. Deepest was interchangeable every attack but I’m wondering if we also hybrid versioned it so first player to use their hands meant no one else could? Nee blasties was definitely a time thing for us. Next up headers and vols, followed by whatever variant of spot, bums you played Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, Disco said: Got to say, as we weren’t allowed to play with a proper ball, I absolutely fucking loved playing on the yard with a tenniser when I was youngun. Aye, in playtime we'd have to play with a size three borderline windshifter "incase someone got hurt". One kid from Colombia came in year two. He was exceptionally good. Knew he'd become a footballer and he did! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ángelo_Balanta We had a one on one once. Absolutely destroyed me. Can just remember being on the floor and him rounding the keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Canny rant by the Accrington chairman! https://x.com/andyhholt/status/1756199906287448305?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Paully said: Canny rant by the Accrington chairman! https://x.com/andyhholt/status/1756199906287448305?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Agree with his point on the voting - think it was 9 of the 20 clubs who voted for FFP aren’t even in the PL now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 14 hours ago, madras said: Thatchers bloody Britain. Fog man back and rush keeper were the same thing as far back as Heath's Britain This. Saltwell park 1970 Heath. Not that any of us had heard of the cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 34 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Agree with his point on the voting - think it was 9 of the 20 clubs who voted for FFP aren’t even in the PL now. Aye. Why do Luton get to vote and the likes of Leeds, Leicester and the mackems don't? Even outside of this you could make a point that as previous winners, Blackburn and Leicester get a vote regardless of where they currently are in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Sima said: Aye. Why do Luton get to vote and the likes of Leeds, Leicester and the mackems don't? Even outside of this you could make a point that as previous winners, Blackburn and Leicester get a vote regardless of where they currently are in the league. West Brom Swansea Norwich Southampton QPR Sunderland Reading Wigan Stoke All these clubs got a say on it. Nice we’re living with the ramifications of Wigan and Reading’s choices, clubs who have had 39 points deducted between them since FFP came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 08/02/2024 at 21:03, Dr.Spaceman said: That's what we played in the Felling. Ah! A fellow of the white heather hill. I knew I liked you Dr S! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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