Fezzle Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 14 hours ago, RodneyCisse said: Not sure arsenal are as good this season, havertz proper upsets their balance and they’re starting with nketiah over Jesus for some mad reason. Jesus has started the last two since returning from minor knee surgery. Not entirely sure what you expect them to do ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) On 25/09/2023 at 17:26, The Prophet said: Aton Villa (h) 5-1 v 4-0 City (a) 1-0 v 2-0 Liverpool (h) 1-2 v 0-2 Brighton (a) 3-1 v 0-0 Brentford home (h) 1-0 v 5-1 Sheffield United (Leeds) (a) 0-8 v 2-2 Burnley (Leicester) (h) 2-0 v 0-0 +3 points, +7 goal difference. Edited October 1, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) On 27/09/2023 at 01:36, Skeletor said: Will stick my neck on the line and say Spurs are in a false position right now and will fall away in Spurs like fashion again. Not having European football is a massive advantage. Maddison is him. Son is him. Atmosphere around the club is best it’s been in a long time. Not being in the CL is massive for Liverpool as well. Edited September 30, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 01:36, Skeletor said: Will stick my neck on the line and say Spurs are in a false position right now and will fall away in Spurs like fashion again. I agree, they aren't all that, couple of injuries and they're in trouble, have no depth. Fancy us to finish above them for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 9 hours ago, mondonewc said: I agree, they aren't all that, couple of injuries and they're in trouble, have no depth. Fancy us to finish above them for sure. Could've said the same about us last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I still think the top 5 will be the same as last season just not in the same order . Man United will improve , Brighton and Villa are similar to last season and Spurs aren’t as good as the league table shows . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Think Spurs will continue to impress all season. Touch and go with Man Utd. A couple more bad results and things start to turn very sour. Liverpool look nailed on, so I think we will be fighting it out with Villa and Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 That Liverpool defeat is still a kick in the pants. If only we'd won that, as we should have, we'd be up in fourth place now with them down in 7th. Ah well, hopefully we roll them over at Anfield - that's probably now the game I'm most looking forward to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Update on tracker for sixth place finish (62 points). Assumptions made are in Spoiler below. Spoiler Assuming we are aiming for a top six season, then taking 6th as a minimum target, here is a way of gauging when we will, on average, pick-up the 62 points likely to be required (average for PL). Categorising the teams (mainly on last season’s position) into four tiers and predicting we will pick-up (rounded-up) 9pts from T1 (all tiers ten games except 8 in Tier 1), 16 pts from Tier 2, 18pts from T3, and 19pts from T4 teams. Tier 1: 8 games 24 pts available, 9 predcited (1 win 2 draws 1 loss at H; 1 win 1 draw 2 losses Away = 5pts + 4 = 9pts). So, 1.25ppg at Home and 1.0ppg Away. Man City Arsenal Man Utd NUFC Liverpool Tier 2: 10 games 30 pts available, 16pts predicted (3 wins 1 draw 1 loss at Home; 2 wins, 0 draw, 3 losses Away =10 +6pts). So, 2.0ppg at Home and 1.2 ppg Away Brighton Aston Villa Spurs Brentford Chelsea Tier 3: 10 games 30 pts available, 18pts predicted (3 wins 1 draw 1 loss at H; 2 wins 2 draws 1 loss Away= 10+8pts). So, 2.0ppg at H ome and 1.6ppg Away. Palace Fulham Wolves West Ham Bournemouh Tier 4 10 games 30 pts available, 19pts predicted (3 wins and 2 draws at Home; 2 wins 2 draws 1 loss Away= 11+8pts) . So, 2.2ppg at H and 1.6ppg Away . Forest Everton Burnley Sheffield Utd Luton Remember this is a prediction for 6th. Taking into account the relative difficulty of games would mean the following pattern of picking up points at different stages of the season. The average points per month for the top five is also shown, just using number of games per month. I'll correct this as the games inevitably get moved around. The points per match are just indicative, it’s the points per month which will show how on track we are. In short, taking account of relative difficulty of the games as they fall across the season, we are on track for the average points total for a fifth place finish (12). 11 points, at end of September equates to a fourth place finish. Edited October 1, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Liverpool can challenge for the title. They’ve got the best attack in the league and tremendous depth in attack. Man City and Arsenal are shoe-ins too obvs. All 3 of those could get 80+ points. Spurs were awful last season and finished on 60 points. They were also in the CL. If they can keep Son and Maddison fit they’ve got a good chance of getting 70+ points this season. They’ve got a positive atmosphere. It looks like they’ve added 3-4 good additions to the squad. I think Spurs are a bigger threat than Brighton and Villa (and West Ham). those have to be better than they’ve ever been in the PL before and have European football to contend with. All 3 have the potential to go deep. Getting 70+ points for the first time in the PL And 10+ games in Europe until April I think is beyond them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Obviously thoughts will change base on performance, injuries, signings etc. Brighton crashing out at the group stage but being top 4 in the league come Christmas for example - changes things drastically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Don’t think it’s doable this year with the extra games and step up in quality we’re having to take. We’re already being hit by several injuries in one go, and not short ones. Think we will get Europe but not CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Liverpool can challenge for the title. They’ve got the best attack in the league and tremendous depth in attack. Man City and Arsenal are shoe-ins too obvs. All 3 of those could get 80+ points. Spurs were awful last season and finished on 60 points. They were also in the CL. If they can keep Son and Maddison fit they’ve got a good chance of getting 70+ points this season. They’ve got a positive atmosphere. It looks like they’ve added 3-4 good additions to the squad. I think Spurs are a bigger threat than Brighton and Villa (and West Ham). those have to be better than they’ve ever been in the PL before and have European football to contend with. All 3 have the potential to go deep. Getting 70+ points for the first time in the PL And 10+ games in Europe until April I think is beyond them. Completely agree with this. If we finish above Spurs we will be in CL IMO. Is 5th CL this year? I expect a fight back from Man Utd, probably post Xmas and possibly post Ten Hag. Right now: City Liverpool Arsenal Spurs/Newcastle Spurs/Newcastle Villa Brighton Then stick Man Utd in that mix once they have sorted themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Didn’t mention Man Utd. They too are obviously contenders and a lot depends on them. With the toxicity around the club it could implode. If they implode and there are 5 CL spots. I really fancy our chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 If they sack ETH they fold imo. I’m really flip floppy on him as a manager. But him going would end their season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Top five will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Don’t think it’s doable this year with the extra games and step up in quality we’re having to take. We’re already being hit by several injuries in one go, and not short ones. Think we will get Europe but not CL. How's the hammy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I think we are a better team than last season and even with the extra games can still get a similar amount of points which should be enough for top 5 again.We are still a very very good team and you have to be a good team to beat us. People seem to be getting carried away by Villa after yesterday but both us and Liverpool demolished them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Also, we just need to be in the mix come February. Chances are that our CL campaign won't last that long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, STM said: Also, we just need to be in the mix come February. Chances are that our CL campaign won't last that long. Cmon man. We’re such a momentum club atm. Positive atmosphere of being in the CL or at least in Europe is worth points to us (hopefully more than the extra games cost us). R16 exit to Real Madrid minimum pls. Edited October 1, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: I think we are a better team than last season and even with the extra games can still get a similar amount of points which should be enough for top 5 again.We are still a very very good team and you have to be a good team to beat us. People seem to be getting carried away by Villa after yesterday but both us and Liverpool demolished them. Not getting carried away by Villa, but they can very well take a lot of points from the next 5 fixtures. In that case they will be top 3 or 4 after 12 rounds, and then some people will for sure get carried away by them. I'm sure they will fall a bit when they face some tougher fixtures later, but there will be a good feeling around the club if they keep it up the next few games. Can't really look too much into the opening game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I find it crazy that we have four more points and 3 more wins than this time last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 01/10/2023 at 15:33, Erikse said: Not getting carried away by Villa, but they can very well take a lot of points from the next 5 fixtures. In that case they will be top 3 or 4 after 12 rounds, and then some people will for sure get carried away by them. I'm sure they will fall a bit when they face some tougher fixtures later, but there will be a good feeling around the club if they keep it up the next few games. Can't really look too much into the opening game. There’s part of me that likes that we thumped Villa, Brighton thumped us, and Villa thumped Brighton. Plus we have played Man City twice and had a 1-0 win each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Man Utd having a good go at making sure it stays at 4 rather than 5 places for next seasons CL… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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