alexf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Home games feel key and then try and play with freedom and less pressure for those away games. Don't really want to be going into that Everton game needing to win on the final day. That being said this is a different Newcastle these days and I'd back them to get the results they needed. Obviously tomorrow is massive but if we somehow got the win away to Villa again aswell that would be chef's kiss and we'd be almost there. Chelsea game could be big aswell but again I back us at home against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Elma said: If Villa beat us they'll be on 57 with five games left, so it would be four wins out of five (i.e. losing to Man City but beating Fulham, Bournemouth, Spurs and Man U would take them to 69). So yeh they’ll need to have won 9 out of 10. So fair fucks to them. I think they drop points to at least 2 of us, City, Fulham and Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Im down for another Gambler's fallacy discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 A win versus Palace would be great but it's vital that we get a point at Villa Park. I think it's between us and them for one spot - a draw means they'd need 10 points from the final 5 matches to reach 65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: A win versus Palace would be great but it's vital that we get a point at Villa Park. I think it's between us and them for one spot - a draw means they'd need 10 points from the final 5 matches to reach 65. Is it Forest or Chelsea you are so sure will get a CL place? Win against Palace and i count us as favorites vs them for a CL place regardless of if we lose against Villa. Edited April 15 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: A win versus Palace would be great but it's vital that we get a point at Villa Park. I think it's between us and them for one spot - a draw means they'd need 10 points from the final 5 matches to reach 65. Villa will drop points in the run in. The Palace game is far more important IMO, we need to win our home games. Pushing ourselves above Forest tomorrow would shift the pressure on to them massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Displayname said: Is it Forest or Chelsea you are so sure will get a CL place? Win against Palace and i count us as favorites vs them for a CL place regardless of if we lose against Villa. I personally still think Forest will squeeze it, with such nice fixtures. Of course, there's an argument that they prefer the tough ones.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: I personally still think Forest will squeeze it, with such nice fixtures. Of course, there's an argument that they prefer the tough ones.... If Spurs drop out of Europa and gets a new manager bounce they only have 1 easy game tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: A win versus Palace would be great but it's vital that we get a point at Villa Park. I think it's between us and them for one spot - a draw means they'd need 10 points from the final 5 matches to reach 65. It would be good but it’s not a vital at all. Even if we lost to *both* Palace and Villa that’d leave us only 1 point behind them with a much better GD, and them with Man City up next. Never mind if we’d beaten Palace. They’re in a substantially worse position than that right now (2 points behind, one more played, much worse GD) and you’d never write them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It goes without saying Edward's health comes first and foremost, but I do hope that his absence doesn't have too much of an impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Yeah shame he won't be able to match up tactically against Emery again in a big game, as he's had his number for the last 3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 53 minutes ago, Displayname said: If Spurs drop out of Europa and gets a new manager bounce they only have 1 easy game tbh. I'd think the odds are pretty good that Spurs lose Thursday and Ange is cleaning out his desk Friday morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Beating Palace is more important than getting a draw at Villa. Even if Villa beat us. We should beat Ipswich. Atleast one of Villa or City will drop points that week. I fancied City to drop points against palace or Everton. I think they draw Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Yeah I know we have beaten them away last year but realistically this is an unlikely result if we're honest, they have only lost once this season at home, just beaten a strong psg team in previous game so more likely to be on a high than crushed and disappointed, plus we will be missing our manager in the build up and in-game and have a day less to rest. The palace match is the one to go all in on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 hours ago, alexf said: Yeah I know we have beaten them away last year but realistically this is an unlikely result if we're honest, they have only lost once this season at home, just beaten a strong psg team in previous game so more likely to be on a high than crushed and disappointed, plus we will be missing our manager in the build up and in-game and have a day less to rest. The palace match is the one to go all in on. Not sure they’ll be on a high after getting knocked out like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Preferring a point at Villa to a win vs Palace doesn’t make much sense - a win is worth 3 points against Man City, Chelsea and Forest too. Plus beating Palace means even if lose to Villa, Villa will come out of the weekend at worst two points behind. I don’t want to take on the forums maths and betting gurus but 3 is a bigger number than 1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, alexf said: Yeah I know we have beaten them away last year but realistically this is an unlikely result if we're honest, they have only lost once this season at home, just beaten a strong psg team in previous game so more likely to be on a high than crushed and disappointed, plus we will be missing our manager in the build up and in-game and have a day less to rest. The palace match is the one to go all in on. On a high after a gruelling 90 minutes where they came a whisker of taking them to extra time and/or winning it?! I’d be very surprised. Didn’t look like it wt full time. Tough game though. But tonight is the only one that matters right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigen Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 You and Man City are almost sure. Then is between Forest, Chelsea and Villa. For me Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Elliottman said: On a high after a gruelling 90 minutes where they came a whisker of taking them to extra time and/or winning it?! I’d be very surprised. Didn’t look like it wt full time. Tough game though. But tonight is the only one that matters right now. Konsa was near tears in his post match interview. Could go either way but would have preferred the soul sapping loss after extra time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 hours ago, alexf said: Yeah I know we have beaten them away last year but realistically this is an unlikely result if we're honest, they have only lost once this season at home, just beaten a strong psg team in previous game so more likely to be on a high than crushed and disappointed, plus we will be missing our manager in the build up and in-game and have a day less to rest. The palace match is the one to go all in on. It'll be a hard game for sure, but they are loose at the back. It probably accounts for the amount of draws they've had at home. Leicester, Ipswich and West Ham have all bagged there, with the latter two claiming a point. Still, I'd happily shake hands on a point if offered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I think they'll beat us but we'll still finish higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 We've been largely fantastic for about 4 months now, winning 19 of 24 or something like that. We're in a brilliant position but it's inevitable we're going to start dropping points, no team just wins each week. It's completely normal for the odd draw or loss to happen, we're long overdue a draw, last one was Liverpool 3-3. We're rightly full of confidence and shouldn't be scared of anyone but the law of averages suggests we're due a dip in results at some point. I still think we'll finish 4th but we'll still be looking over our shoulders in the second half of the Everton game. It'll be that tight imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 There is no way we aren’t getting top 5 - we’re a different beast now - 3rd or even 2nd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, midds said: We've been largely fantastic for about 4 months now, winning 19 of 24 or something like that. We're in a brilliant position but it's inevitable we're going to start dropping points, no team just wins each week. It's completely normal for the odd draw or loss to happen, we're long overdue a draw, last one was Liverpool 3-3. We're rightly full of confidence and shouldn't be scared of anyone but the law of averages suggests we're due a dip in results at some point. I still think we'll finish 4th but we'll still be looking over our shoulders in the second half of the Everton game. It'll be that tight imo 19 out of 24 is canny fucking impressive like 2 of them losses were Liverpool and Man City away as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, jack j said: 19 out of 24 is canny fucking impressive like 2 of them losses were Liverpool and Man City away as well I still maintain we were only so bad against Fulham and Bournemouth due getting distracted by the cup run as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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