Scoot Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." Love a negative don't you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." Feel like Man City away and Liverpool away is usually about 20% of our seasonal goal concession regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day. Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Scoot said: Love a negative don't you. Not at all. I'm more bulish than most about our chances of beating Chelsea. Just an interesting stat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 55 minutes ago, Elma said: Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton. I've more confidence in beating Chelsea at home than getting a point at the Emirates. Your scenario also leaves the door open for Villa potentially. Fuck that. Beat Chelsea and we have 2-swings at securing CL football, all in our hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus. Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th. We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it. We need to beat Chelsea man. Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. I mean their game away game at Villa Park literally ended in a draw. This time around it's their last home game of the season. Man Utd have allways been good vs Villa. They beat them twice last season despite Villa finishing 4th. It's almost like the Bournemouth situation for us. Not saying Villa weren't favourites to win this game, but it wasn't as clear as you would think (without the final). Being mid to lower table didn't stop Man Utd from taking points off of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, and Villa this season. Edited May 9 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." In 3 of the hardest games like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 We definitely shouldn't depart too much from previous badges and heritage. Could someone 'shop a seahorse and a magpie necking on with someone like Stevie Taylor having a tug in the background? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Wrong thread? Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that . Edited May 9 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that . Not really. 4 points from our next 2 games will do just fine, however we get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Villa game tonight is huge , if they win that we are going to need another 6 points to finish above them . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 15 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Villa game tonight is huge , if they win that we are going to need another 6 points to finish above them . We need 6 points anyway we can’t be concerned what other teams do if we don’t get our job done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 58 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly It's not like you to put a negative spin on things! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Villa shouldn’t matter to us at the end of the season. Uncomfortable if they catch up temporarily but if they finish ahead then we’ve really, really messed it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly How? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Protests planned if we don't win i heard. In fact, remind me again of all the negative permutations if we don't win? I've not heard enough of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, STM said: Protests planned if we don't win i heard. In fact, remind me again of all the negative permutations if we don't win? I've not heard enough of them. My contribution is spending most my life in the Midlands I'm surrounded by plastic cartel wankers and I can't bear the thought of them being happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Really ugly ffs 🤣 Theres is nothing ugly about this season. Only beautiful Trophies and European football to look forward too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 06/05/2025 at 16:31, The College Dropout said: Joelinton will miss Arsenal too. We have to find a way and I trust Eddie to make it happen. Including wheeling out Joelinton one more time. We've beaten better Chelsea teams with worse sides in the PL at SJP. I believe in the boys. Chelsea's midfield are apparently functioning a lot better since Lavia has come back in. Add to that we will have a vital cog missing in Joelinton. This is the problem with writing off clubs with Chelsea's resources, they have a far deeper squad than us. Yes we are at home, yes we can win. But let's not pretend this is like playing Fulham or Wolves at home. This is a big game between two very big teams, nothing can be taken for granted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 We are currently the same odds for a top four finish that Villa are for a top six finish. That's a very, very different bet. Surely the bookies would have cottoned on if we were as vulnerable as some on here think (myself included at times). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said: We are currently the same odds for a top four finish that Villa are for a top six finish. That's a very, very different bet. Surely the bookies would have cottoned on if we were as vulnerable as some on here think (myself included at times). I’ve only been thinking about Forest and Chelsea for a while now. Man City are in, Villa were too far behind, it’s just those two we need to focus on. Villa have got slightly closer obviously but overall we would have had to really collapse to finish behind them. Edited May 10 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) I've been staying out of this thread a little so sure this has already been mentioned....but Spurs v Man Utd in the Europa final on the 21st, with both playing away against Villa and Chelsea the Friday before is typical luck. They'll be playing 2nd string and not give a fuck Edited May 10 by Hhtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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