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The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)


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  On 16/01/2023 at 07:12, Froggy said:

 

Since we lost to City in October, we've played 19 games in all competitons and won 16 of them. I would say that's why people see us getting top four rather than the failings of other teams. :lol:

 

We both had massive slices of luck at the weekend but would argue that we both deserved to win anyway.

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My point is not berate Man U but to berate the opinion that Man U have positioned themselves to definitely do it but NUFC somehow have not and cannot.

We've had better form for longer and are far less reliant on one player (Rashford).

Man U look in an especially strong position because of Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea's struggles, but those struggles help NUFC in exactly the same way.

 

For skeptical Toon fans incapable of forgetting Steve Bruce and the like, our form is now 

P38 W22 D10 L6 F58 A31 GD+27 Pts 76

18 clean sheets in there. 10 of the goals conceded were in two second half collapses last season. Only one home defeat, which featured Dubs, Krafth, Shelvey and ASM as a central striker.

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They've spent more last summer on a team that finished 6th, than we have on a team that was 19th in the last two windows. We have no right to be in the same category really, but here we are.

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  On 18/01/2023 at 09:40, Shearergol said:

 

So we're more likely to win the league than Man United? Cool.

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I’m not sure that I’ve figured out their reasoning/methodology. Why are Man United higher in the table? Presumably because they have a game in hand?  Haven’t sussed out “team controls destiny” bit (red vs. green) numbers.

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  On 18/01/2023 at 09:46, gazza ladra said:

I’m not sure that I’ve figured out their reasoning/methodology. Why are Man United higher in the table? Presumably because they have a game in hand?  Haven’t sussed out “team controls destiny” bit (red vs. green) numbers.

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They've got Brighton finishing 5th too. Is it just based on difficulties of fixtures?

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The more you look into the stats, the more unbelievable it is like. 

 

Our rolling 38 game total is 76 points. That's with a team that regularly starts with 6 of the Rentford Rejects that were available under Bruce (Schar, Longstaff, Willock, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson) and who Howe has turned, to a man, into high performing top-end Premier League players in one way or another. 

 

The 95/96 team, Keegan's dream team (minus Shearer) that included Beardsley, Ginola, Ferdinand, Lee, Batty, Asprilla, Albert, Beresford - a team of superstars that multiple generations of Newcastle fans have in their all-time XIs - the high watermark where the crest of the wave broke? +2 points +2 GD :lol:

 

Rolling 38 games
Pos Team                  P     W    D    L   GF  GA  GD    Pts
4    Newcastle United 38   22   10   6   58  31  +27    76

 

95/96
Pos Team                  P     W    D    L   GF  GA  GD    Pts
2   Newcastle United  38   24   6    8    66  37  +29    78    

 

 

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  On 18/01/2023 at 11:32, Kid Icarus said:

The more you look into the stats, the more unbelievable it is like. 

 

Our rolling 38 game total is 76 points. That's with a team that regularly starts with 6 of the Rentford Rejects that were available under Bruce (Schar, Longstaff, Willock, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson) and who Howe has turned, to a man, into high performing top-end Premier League players in one way or another. 

 

The 95/96 team, Keegan's dream team (minus Shearer) that included Beardsley, Ginola, Ferdinand, Lee, Batty, Asprilla, Albert, Beresford - a team of superstars that multiple generations of Newcastle fans have in their all-time XIs - the high watermark where the crest of the wave broke? +2 points +2 GD :lol:

 

Rolling 38 games
Pos Team                  P     W    D    L   GF  GA  GD    Pts
4    Newcastle United 38   22   10   6   58  31  +27    76

 

95/96
Pos Team                  P     W    D    L   GF  GA  GD    Pts
2   Newcastle United  38   24   6    8    66  37  +29    78    

 

 

 

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Is there a site that gives you that rolling total or did you just work it out?

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Just to add to this, if we beat Crystal Palace on Saturday, the rolling total moves forward a game (it currently starts with the 1-1 draw with Watford last January) and we'll be 2 points better off again - level with the 95/96 season on 78 points and, at worst -1 on goal difference.

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It’ll be our results against the weaker teams in the league which will decide if we finish top 4. If we can beat teams in the bottom half until the end of the season, accounting for the odd slip-up or draw then it’s ours 

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Starting to look very real this. Man City to beat Spurs tomorrow hopefully and then even if we get a point at Palace it won't be owt too bad. Mind, we're due a decision against these after that calamity at SJP.

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Spurs lose v Man City

Liverpool & Chelsea draw

Man U lose v Arsenal

Spurs lose v Fulham

 

All realistic. If we win at Palace it could look even better.

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