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[The College Dropout]

10 hours ago, Kaizero said:

 

Don't understand this tbh, I never watch the CL because it's boring as fuck. The EL and Conference League always entertain.

 

That said, I'd much prefer NUFC in the CL, of course  It'd be different if we were in it, but all matches not involving us would be just as boring as they always have been. 

 

 

 

The quality of football in the CL is the best the sport has to offer. That part is super enjoyable. I mostly watch Madrid and it’s understated how excellent and enjoyable to watch players like Fede Valverde and Eduardo Camavinga are and they aren’t even the star players. Watching Valverde is like watching Sandro Tonali (a brilliant player) on steroids. 
 

I’ve super enjoyed this new league format.  The quality of matches has been superb and the competition is hot. 
 

By the time it gets to Thursday and Spurs - I’m footballed out. Like watching a Man U is painful. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

Forest didn’t do it as a gamble though. Everyone has changed the narrative to that they did, because 2 and a half years later they are having a good season.

 

When they got promoted, most of their players were either out of contract, or having to return to their clubs after their loan deal ended. Even if they never got promoted, they would have had to buy a whole new squad.

Aye but they didn’t need to buy 30 something players.  
 

Forest did gamble in respect that they actually tried to stay up. They weren’t even a parachute payment club like Fulham or Bournemouth.  Apart from Leeds who never bothered to sign defenders - most (non parachute payment) promoted clubs don’t even attempt to stay up.  I think FFP has blocked Leicester from giving it a real go but the rest don’t try.  
 

Forest came up and slapped the money down for late 20s Chris Wood. They meant business. 

[Stifler]

8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Aye but they didn’t need to buy 30 something players.  
 

Forest did gamble in respect that they actually tried to stay up. They weren’t even a parachute payment club like Fulham or Bournemouth.  Apart from Leeds who never bothered to sign defenders - most (non parachute payment) promoted clubs don’t even attempt to stay up.  I think FFP has blocked Leicester from giving it a real go but the rest don’t try.  
 

Forest came up and slapped the money down for late 20s Chris Wood. They meant business. 

They lost 26 players that summer.

[Tiresias]

At the time I thought they'd done what fulham had done a few seasons earlier and there was no way changing so many players would result in a cohesive team that would stay up even if the talent was there. They did struggle but cooper got them over the line. I thought way to stay up was keep core of team that got promoted and try and bring in a quality spine to the team. However considering how well it has gone for forest, and how all the teams coming up have kept their squads together and really struggled i am questioning my own reasoning on this, maybe complete overhaul is the way.

[The Prophet]

Imagine this time six weeks ago saying we'd win at Man United, Spurs and Arsenal. Surreal week or so.

[The College Dropout]

25 minutes ago, Stifler said:

They lost 26 players that summer.

You can only have a squad of 25 in the PL. Signing 30 something players was crazy.  

[Froggy]

11 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Imagine this time six weeks ago saying we'd win at Man United, Spurs and Arsenal. Surreal week or so.

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

As you'll know Froggy our record at OT is absolutely miserable. I knew we'd bot yous like, was never in doubt.

[Kid Icarus]

9 hours ago, Kaizero said:

 

Beating Arsenal has just made it even harder for us to win our next game you know...

 

 

That Scandinavian water must have lead in it like.  

[Elliottman]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

 

Give over, we were sat in 12th wondering if Eddie would survive the next few games. The last week has been borderline miraculous 

[Froggy]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

As you'll know Froggy our record at OT is absolutely miserable. I knew we'd bot yous like, was never in doubt.

 

Your record at OT is miserable because you were crap and we were good.  

 

 

[The Prophet]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

 

We'd just been hammered by Brentford, while Spurs were battering City and you'd just appointed Amorim. It seemed canny unlikely.

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

 

The last time we won at Old Trafford in the league we were dancing to disco due to its resurgence in 2013.

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

Your record at OT is miserable because you were crap and we were good.  

 

 

Miserable is an understatement  

 

Premier League:

 

All competitions:

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

Give over, we were sat in 12th wondering if Eddie would survive the next few games. The last week has been borderline miraculous 

 

What?  You had won 4 on the spin before playing us whereas we had lost 3 in a row, with a new manager playing a new system. Spurs had just drawn at home to Wolves and lost to Liverpool and Forest before you played them with Ange already under serious pressure.

 

Dressing it up as miraculous is weird tbh.

[Elliottman]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

What?  You had won 4 on the spin before playing us whereas we had lost 3 in a row, with a new manager playing a new system. Spurs had just drawn at home to Wolves and lost to Liverpool and Forest before you played them with Ange already under serious pressure.

 

Dressing it up as miraculous is weird tbh.

 

Six weeks ago he said 

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The last time we won at Old Trafford in the league we were dancing to disco due to its resurgence in 2013.

 

I totally understand why you'd be filled with apprehension given the previous record, but we've always been much better than you. That's not the case anymore, so I'm not sure why people think history would repeat itself. Teams are constantly coming to Old Trafford these days and breaking 30-40 year winless records.  

[Hanshithispantz]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Your record at OT is miserable because you were crap and we were good.  

 

 

Tbf if yous had started Mainoo yous probably would have been good 

 

Feels a bit like Howe playing Clarke early on and his red card against Norwich being the catalyst which transformed us.

 

When I saw that midfield I put £20 on Newcastle -3.

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3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

What?  You had won 4 on the spin before playing us whereas we had lost 3 in a row, with a new manager playing a new system. Spurs had just drawn at home to Wolves and lost to Liverpool and Forest before you played them with Ange already under serious pressure.

 

Dressing it up as miraculous is weird tbh.

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

Six weeks ago he said 

 

Fair enough.  I'm too used to reading between the lines to suit my narrative.

[Kid Icarus]

I for one would like to revel in our glory. If we beat Bromley then it's our best winning run in 33 years despite having played Arsenal, Villa, Man United, Spurs as part of that run. Slice it any way you like, in our history it's miraculous and we're going to enjoy it on that basis.

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

I totally understand why you'd be filled with apprehension given the previous record, but we've always been much better than you. That's not the case anymore, so I'm not sure why people think history would repeat itself. Teams are constantly coming to Old Trafford these days and breaking 30-40 year winless records.  

You've beaten us under Howe when we've gone into it the better team, so whether it's that we hadn’t won there in 3 years or 12 years the point still stands. Records weigh heavier on clubs than people appreciate imo.

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

You've beaten us under Howe when we've gone into it the better team, so whether it's that we hadn’t won there in 3 years or 12 years the point still stands. Records weigh heavier on clubs than people appreciate imo.

 

Yeah fair enough. Just feels to me like you've been good for a few years now and I'm not really surprised by these wins.  

[jack j]

14 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Surely the only one that is a surprise is Arsenal?  Us and Spurs are both having two of the worst PL seasons in our history.

Think you're forgetting spurs were mid to low table dross alot of the 90s and early 2000s

 

Surely we celebrate 3 away wins against the soopa doopa big 6 without anyone caring about it

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, jack j said:

Think you're forgetting spurs were mid to low table dross alot of the 90s and early 2000s

 

Surely we celebrate 3 away wins against the soopa doopa big 6 without anyone caring about it

 

Big 7 innit. I'm just saying a member of the big 7 beating other members of the big 7 isn't surprising. 

 

I think a few of you are just struggling with the transition of becoming a good team.