The Europeometer™ (2024/25)

[Groundhog63]

2 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

Which VPN do you use?

Nord. 

On the trumpet. Sacked off the WiFi, went to New York. 

Sat back and watched ?

[Menace]

2 hours ago, GideonShandy said:

Not sure if this will be viewable on here because it's from NBC Sports and ESPN, but it's just gone up on the video site that begins with Y.

 

"Exploring the DNA and Culture of Newcastle United"   8 minutes of glorious stuff.  

 

 

 

 

 

https://uploadnow.io/s/6defa085-bf16-47a6-b305-972ec1310538?o=t

 

I hope I haven't broken any rules...

 

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Menace

[Kid Icarus]

Surprised that isn't part of the documentary 

[Adam]

Well that was excellent, well worth a cheeky download. 

[JLC]

Superb, that

[Miercoles]

Still can't fucking believe it.

[Oregon_Geordie]

Lovely stuff. Making me more homesick now. lol

 

[Froggy]

9 hours ago, midds said:

They've largely stood still while we've leapfrogged a dozen or more teams. Not how much you spend it's how you spend it. 

 

Still maintain Ashworth, Howe and Eales are our 3 best signings we've made since the takeover

 

Obviously if people are saying that (never heard that opinion from anyone, anywhere) on RedCafe they're absolute idiots.

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

 

We haven't largely stood still at all though. We've won our first trophy in 6 years, in another cup final, and we're already 11 points better off in the league than last season and still have two more games to play. This was with numerous bad injuries and no striker. I'm not counting Weghorst.

 

Something very vital to remember, which nobody gives us any credit for, is the sheer amount of games we have played. When the season finishes, we will have played 17 more games than you. 62 in total. Our side, despite being riddled with injuries, played twice a week every week from September to May. 

 

You've had a brilliant season, but we've had a very good one ourselves, provided we get one more point.  No need to try and downplay our achievements because a minority in our fanbase is threatened by how well you've done.

[aussiemag]

31 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Obviously if people are saying that (never heard that opinion from anyone, anywhere) on RedCafe they're absolute idiots.

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

 

We haven't largely stood still at all though. We've won our first trophy in 6 years, in another cup final, and we're already 11 points better off in the league than last season and still have two more games to play. This was with numerous bad injuries and no striker. I'm not counting Weghorst.

 

Something very vital to remember, which nobody gives us any credit for, is the sheer amount of games we have played. When the season finishes, we will have played 17 more games than you. 62 in total. Our side, despite being riddled with injuries, played twice a week every week from September to May. 

 

You've had a brilliant season, but we've had a very good one ourselves, provided we get one more point.  No need to try and downplay our achievements because a minority in our fanbase is threatened by how well you've done.

 

I agree with Froggy. I think Man Utd have had a really good season and the starting 11 is good with Eriksen & Casemiro as the CM's. I would be concerned about the low GD issue, however this will be solved with the signing of a proven striker. 

They will challenge top 4 and above next season. 

[Froggy]

6 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

I would be concerned about the low GD issue

 

[Nucasol]

13 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

 

I agree with Froggy. I think Man Utd have had a really good season and the starting 11 is good with Eriksen & Casemiro as the CM's. I would be concerned about the low GD issue, however this will be solved with the signing of a proven striker. 

They will challenge top 4 and above next season. 

Top 4, a cup, another cup final, good run in Europe ultimately ending in fairly horrific circumstances after a mad last 10 in the first leg, plus likely finishing 3rd.
 

Only Man City would currently sniff at a season like that quite frankly, plus the entitled Scouse cunts who think they’re owed a quadruple each year. Everyone else it’s a good or great one. 

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

ending in fairly horrific circumstances after a mad last 10 in the first leg

 

Two own goals in the 84th and 92nd minute.  Unbelievable luck after we had completely blown them away in the first half.

 

Saying that, it's Sevilla in the Europa League. Could have went into the second leg 4-0 up and they would have found a way.

[SteV]

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

You can’t say someone would have been a good signing if they’d only cost half the price man ?

[Froggy]

Just now, SteV said:

You can’t say someone would have been a good signing if they’d only cost half the price man ?

 

I didn't say that.  

[midds]

3 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Obviously if people are saying that (never heard that opinion from anyone, anywhere) on RedCafe they're absolute idiots.

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

 

We haven't largely stood still at all though. We've won our first trophy in 6 years, in another cup final, and we're already 11 points better off in the league than last season and still have two more games to play. This was with numerous bad injuries and no striker. I'm not counting Weghorst.

 

Something very vital to remember, which nobody gives us any credit for, is the sheer amount of games we have played. When the season finishes, we will have played 17 more games than you. 62 in total. Our side, despite being riddled with injuries, played twice a week every week from September to May. 

 

You've had a brilliant season, but we've had a very good one ourselves, provided we get one more point.  No need to try and downplay our achievements because a minority in our fanbase is threatened by how well you've done.

I was referring to the league tbh. Man U PL finishes since 2017 are 6th, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th and probably 3rd again this year. It's pretty consistent and relatively unspectacular. It was a direct comparison to the number of places we've moved up the league since January 22. 

[Froggy]

Just now, midds said:

I was referring to the league tbh. Man U PL finishes since 2017 are 6th, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th and probably 3rd again this year. It's pretty consistent and relatively unspectacular. It was a direct comparison to the number of places we've moved up the league since January 22. 

 

Your season has been spectacular no doubt, but we were absolutely fucking dogshit last season.  A lot of fans would call our season spectacular if we finish in the top four and win a cup.

[Phil]

2 hours ago, aussiemag said:

 

I agree with Froggy. I think Man Utd have had a really good season and the starting 11 is good with Eriksen & Casemiro as the CM's. I would be concerned about the low GD issue, however this will be solved with the signing of a proven striker. 

They will challenge top 4 and above next season. 

in fairness its an improvement on last season when they finished with a GD of zero.  6th place and a zero GD, mental! 

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

in fairness its an improvement on last season when they finished with a GD of zero.  6th place and a zero GD, mental! 

They've returned to where they were the season before that under Ole.  But significantly worse GD and losing 3 games more:

 

This year:

 

 

20/21

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald

[1964]

2 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Your season has been spectacular no doubt, but we were absolutely fucking dogshit last season.  A lot of fans would call our season spectacular if we finish in the top four and win a cup.

Can we at least agree that Shearer turned you down? 

[Froggy]

37 minutes ago, 1964 said:

Can we at least agree that Shearer turned you down? 

 

He did. Most of us respect him for it. still sing the songs though. 

[Erikse]

5 hours ago, aussiemag said:

 

I agree with Froggy. I think Man Utd have had a really good season and the starting 11 is good with Eriksen & Casemiro as the CM's. I would be concerned about the low GD issue, however this will be solved with the signing of a proven striker. 

They will challenge top 4 and above next season. 

 

The low GD is partly due to 4-0 vs Brentford, 7-0 vs Liverpool and 6-3 vs City. Still not better than our GD even if you gave them +14, but more than 40% of the goals that they've conceded are from those 3 games. They've kept 17 clean sheets and conceded just 8 goals from 17 games at home. That's crazy good. As you say, if they had a good striker they would've been cooking for real.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by Erikse

[Erikse]

6 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Obviously if people are saying that (never heard that opinion from anyone, anywhere) on RedCafe they're absolute idiots.

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

 

We haven't largely stood still at all though. We've won our first trophy in 6 years, in another cup final, and we're already 11 points better off in the league than last season and still have two more games to play. This was with numerous bad injuries and no striker. I'm not counting Weghorst.

 

Something very vital to remember, which nobody gives us any credit for, is the sheer amount of games we have played. When the season finishes, we will have played 17 more games than you. 62 in total. Our side, despite being riddled with injuries, played twice a week every week from September to May. 

 

You've had a brilliant season, but we've had a very good one ourselves, provided we get one more point.  No need to try and downplay our achievements because a minority in our fanbase is threatened by how well you've done.

 

I agree, last summer was probably your best window in a very long time. You have wasted a lot of money in previous windows on players that didn't work out or wasn't worth the tag, but last summer was really good.

[timeEd32]

In the last 12 months Man United have undoubtedly made progress. If you zoom out to five years then it looks more like standing still, though certainly a more optimistic future. Unfortunately Man City have become the best team in the world in that timespan.

 

We've risen from the abyss to the Champions League in 18 months - almost everyone looks like they are standing still to some degree next to that.

[Shayve79]

8 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Obviously if people are saying that (never heard that opinion from anyone, anywhere) on RedCafe they're absolute idiots.

 

In response to the "it's how you spend it" comment, Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez are some of the best signings of the season. Antony has been a dud, but to be fair to Ten Hag he asked for him when his price was half of what we paid.  No more disappointing than Gordon for £45m though. Both have time to improve and a lot more would be expected from both next season I would imagine.

 

We haven't largely stood still at all though. We've won our first trophy in 6 years, in another cup final, and we're already 11 points better off in the league than last season and still have two more games to play. This was with numerous bad injuries and no striker. I'm not counting Weghorst.

 

Something very vital to remember, which nobody gives us any credit for, is the sheer amount of games we have played. When the season finishes, we will have played 17 more games than you. 62 in total. Our side, despite being riddled with injuries, played twice a week every week from September to May. 

 

You've had a brilliant season, but we've had a very good one ourselves, provided we get one more point.  No need to try and downplay our achievements because a minority in our fanbase is threatened by how well you've done.

 

Casemiro has been hit or miss. He had a slow start, a very good middle and a poor last few weeks (bar the odd game like Villa). At his age, he's likely to be an expensive stopgap.

 

As a club that's used to winning PL titles and going far in The Champions League, a League Cup is nothing to write home about. Apart from Newcastle in the final, it was a run of fairly easy games. United have played every possible cup tie at home this season. That has helped, as the away form this season has been a big yikes. 

 

United have taken just 6 point from 33 vs the top 12 away this season. He's made Old Trafford a bit of fortress in comparison.

 

ten Hag has done a good job overall, but I think fans are too quick to assume that he's going to a be a success long term. You need at least 86 points to win a PL these days. It's become a 90+ tally since Conte won the 16/17 title with Chelsea. Mourinho got the closest (81 points). Solskjaer failed miserably with very low points tallies that would usually be nowhere near the average for a 2nd or 3rd place PL team. Standards dropped under him. ten Hag looks amazing in comparison. But tbh, that 0-7 away defeat at Anfield would be a sackable offence at other European heavyweights such as Real, Bayern and even Chelsea (Abramovich era). It's as bad as Solskjaer being 5-0 down at half-time vs Liverpool at home. Two of the darkest days in the history of the football club.

 

ten Hag has sacrificed his principles for short term success. United play with one of the lowest defensive lines in the league to protect De Gea. They don't press very high. He's done well to drop Maguire, get rid of Ronaldo and improve the home form. But there are still signs of mental weaknesses at United. They still only play well in spells throughout a game instead of sustained spell of pressure and dominance i.e. Spurs away. Obviously more signings are needed. Although he was backed well last summer. His persistence with Weghorst is kind of a running joke at this stage. ten Hag contributed to some of the injury problems by refusing to rotate at times. He's quite stubborn. He has his favourites.

 

Anything was going to be better than the disaster that was last season.

 

There's still a lot of work left to be done. The United squads is still full of mentally weak and entitled cunts. Bruno is a serial moaner, for example. Some fans love him. I think he's a bit of a fraud. Beating City in the final, which is unlikely but not impossible, could determine the trajectory of the club moving forward. Top 4 should be secured later tonight. United would have to severely bottle it from here.

[lovejoy]

I live in Manchester si watch a lot of their games. They're a really weird team, when they concede, they have it in them to completely collapse (liverpool, brentford, man city they were lucky we didn't hit them for 4 or 5 etc), they rarely seem to beat anyone convincingly, it always appears a bit laboured, their away record is pretty atrocious. Yet they've conceded 8 goals or so at home all season, will finish 3rd, have won a cup and may win another.

 

None of it adds up really.

 

Think everyone can see they're heading in the right direction though. Best bet for us is their takeover drags on (or even better doesn't happen) and it slows them down a bit next season.