England’s Anthony Gordon

[Kimbo]

14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

What do people expect Gordon to become?

 

For his fee and age I would want a blue chip player for the future. 
 

Based on what I’ve seen. My ambitions are lower. He’s never had a purple patch in his career so I don’t know what that would look like. Much like Miggy, ultimately I’ll be happy if he proves to be worth the money we’ve paid and make it back when he’s sold. I don’t think he will ever have the quality to be a regular top 5 wide man. Would love to be proven wrong. I never thought Schar would look as good as he has. 

I expect him to be a squad player that can play here and there, and make up for his lack of quality with energy. Much like Murphy, but hopefully in time a better version. I don’t see him ever being a first team player at a top club.

[80]

18 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I think he's going to be a Milner, Barry, Lescott type that Man City had near the beginning. 

Yes, I can see his position evolving across his career.

[Guest]

Think he'll be someone who'll start 20ish across all comps and similar numbers from the bench, buy into the way we play, learn a few positions and be an important squad player. Has the potential to be more but I think he'll be good for us and hold most of his value when he gets to 27-28 year old. 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Optimistic Nut

[The Prophet]

He'll be a useful, versatile forward who we can rotate in and out of the side and counts towards the UEFA quotas. 

[Zero]

52 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

What do people expect Gordon to become?

 

For his fee and age I would want a blue chip player for the future. 
 

Based on what I’ve seen. My ambitions are lower. He’s never had a purple patch in his career so I don’t know what that would look like. Much like Miggy, ultimately I’ll be happy if he proves to be worth the money we’ve paid and make it back when he’s sold. I don’t think he will ever have the quality to be a regular top 5 wide man. Would love to be proven wrong. I never thought Schar would look as good as he has. 

if you want a regular top five wide man prospect I am afraid we need to chuck out 100m like what Man Utd did to Antony

[TRon]

He's got skill, he's got pace, and he looks like a tenacious tackler, so you can see exactly why we would have wanted him, he does fit our style, or at least he will once he's up to speed. The only question mark would be his end product, I guess Ashworth and co must have done their homework, they'll have seen a lot more than us. He is getting into good positions to score so that shows potential.

[Broadsword]

He seems to have a quick brain, some of his movement and passes he does at speed, quicker than the opposition.  That’s a real plus point, the likes of Murphy can’t do that. All he needs is to get up to fitness work on his decision making and practice his shooting. He’ll be fine. 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I think he's going to be a Milner, Barry, Lescott type that Man City had near the beginning. 

IMO these were all excellent players. 20-70 England caps each. All 3 proved themselves to be quality PL players. That level just below the elite in the division. Right there. Like Ashley Young. 
 

They were already there when they joined the massive clubs. Longway for Gordon to go. 

[Yorkie]

33 minutes ago, TRon said:

He's got skill, he's got pace,

 

He's Miss United States. 

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

IMO these were all excellent players. 20-70 England caps each. All 3 proved themselves to be quality PL players. That level just below the elite in the division. Right there. Like Ashley Young. 
 

They were already there when they joined the massive clubs. Longway for Gordon to go. 

 

That's the level I see him getting to. 

[Kanj]

On his first chance that he hit in the near-post side-netting I just felt he took ages to get set up for that one; he waited for that ball to get to him and then obviously still beat his man, but felt like he could have taken that on at pace and blown right by the defender and gotten himself a better angle with his right foot. 

[Rich]

Too many touches, for me, which is a bit of a hallmark of a player lacking confidence and/or quick decision making.

[Kanj]

His most confident performance was has debut as a sub where he was playing everything first time or within 2 touches and absolutely zipping about. 

[The College Dropout]

23 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

That's the level I see him getting to. 

I hope so.

 

One major difference though is those lads had a lot of experience at the age Gordon is. Barry & Milner had like 180 pro appearances for a PL club. Lescott & Young about 140 in the Championship Lescott only limited due to injuries. Young had scored 24 professional goals who knows how many assists. His game would've developed much further tha Gordon has.

 

He doesn't have the experience Gordon. And with CL football and new signings next season, will he get the games he needs to really develop for us?

 

It's a major reason I want Anderson on loan. Lads need to play pro-football.

[Kanj]

It's a shame he didn't have Rafa longer.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Kanji said:

It's a shame he didn't have Rafa longer.

 

He had Ancelotti and Benitez so surely he's learned quite a bit? Playing under Howe rather than Lampard and Dyche will definitely help though. 

[KaKa]

3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Think he'll be someone who'll start 20ish across all comps and similar numbers from the bench, buy into the way we play, learn a few positions and be an important squad player. Has the potential to be more but I think he'll be good for us and hold most of his value when he gets to 27-28 year old. 

 

 

 

 

Good shout. I like the James Milner comp you had previously too.

[Kanj]

You buy a 40m player hoping he increses in value in 6-7 years, not stay the same value. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

You buy a 40m player hoping he increses in value in 6-7 years, not stay the same value. 

 

I think that's worst case scenario though. 

[TBG]

He'll be next seasons, this seasons Longstaff.

 

Folk wanting him out of the team, will be saying how much of a miss he is when he's not playing and how he'd get in the England squad over x player(s)

[The College Dropout]

19 minutes ago, Kanji said:

You buy a 40m player hoping he increses in value in 6-7 years, not stay the same value. 

This is why I asked the question.  People keep talking about the likes of Longstaff. Is he not meant to be more Botman than Longstaff?

[BUJ]

I remember when Bellamy arrived. He couldn't hit the proverbial elephant up the arse with that handful of long grain rice...

 

Had all the pace but 1 on 1 .....hopeless. Bobby worked his magic and BINGO ...

 

Be patient! 

[Jaqen]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

This is why I asked the question.  People keep talking about the likes of Longstaff. Is he not meant to be more Botman than Longstaff?

 

You aren't going to get a homegrown player from a premier League side for a Botman price though are you? Longstaff was rumoured to be about 40/50m wasn't he when Man U were interested? McTominay probably a similar fee to Gordon. Toney would probably go for more than Isak. Rice will go for at least twice the price of Bruno etc. 

[The College Dropout]

Nick Pope. That’s Maddison, the left winger at Leicester, Olise, Harrison type money. 
 

I get the point though. A £40m Englishman from a PL club is a level below what you might get for that money elsewhere.  

[Zero]

Oh compare with James Milner? The one who was widely regarded as fucking shite no end product get rid asap here when he was wearing the black and white shirt? Good memories. Good shout too. Better dig that topic out from the graveyard and see how ridiculous people were at that time.

 

and then read the match thread again. History really repeats