UncleBingo Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Thought he was poor again. He's not working in that role at the minute, as his first touch and passing is letting him down the majority of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) Poor again? He’s been our best player so far this season! Edit - from an attacking perspective I mean Edited September 20, 2023 by AJ9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 What does Howe want him to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Thought he was poor again. He's not working in that role at the minute, as his first touch and passing is letting him down the majority of the time. Huh? Poor again? He's been our best player this season, and has for the most part been quality, and easily our best attacker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: What does Howe want him to do? Has Howe shagged you cat or something, you seem to have a right hard on for questioning literally everything he's doing at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, 54 said: Has Howe shagged you cat or something, you seem to have a right hard on for questioning literally everything he's doing at the moment It’s just a simple question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: It’s just a simple question. I know, but its just a little relentless as you do it in every single thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Thought he was poor again. He's not working in that role at the minute, as his first touch and passing is letting him down the majority of the time. Not enough end product for me, looked great at home against Liverpool for a spell but anonymous away from home for me this season. Jury is absolutely out on him and Barnes, not sure it was worth sacrificing a talent like St Max to accommodate both of them. Where really missing some unpredictability and X factor going forward this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Not the Maxi argument again… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Not enough end product for me, looked great at home against Liverpool for a spell but anonymous away from home for me this season. Jury is absolutely out on him and Barnes, not sure it was worth sacrificing a talent like St Max to accommodate both of them. Where really missing some unpredictability and X factor going forward this season. 6 games into the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I'd like to see him as the focal point in attack.. he's rapid enough to get onto some of the balls that he's providing for Isak or Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, KDT said: 6 games into the season Happy to re-visit these 2 deals at end of the season and hope I’m wrong. Something tells me we’ll be looking to upgrade the wide areas again next summer though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Love how St Maximum attempting to take on 3 or 4 players and not passing in time is unpredictable, but Gordon failing at attempting to take on someone is no end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Gordon has never shown end product. He's a very intelligent footballer, but consistent end product at this level is something we are probably going to have to coach into him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: Happy to re-visit these 2 deals at end of the season and hope I’m wrong. Something tells me we’ll be looking to upgrade the wide areas again next summer though. I think we will as well, but it won't be Gordon & Barnes that we replace, it's more likely to be Almiron & Murphy which is absolutely fine and part of our natural progression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, TBG said: Love how St Maximum attempting to take on 3 or 4 players and not passing in time is unpredictable, but Gordon failing at attempting to take on someone is no end product. St Max disrupted the opposition more and attracted extra defenders. Any coincidence Isak has appeared more marked with less room this season ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, 54 said: I know, but its just a little relentless as you do it in every single thread. I just think Gordon is doing what he's been asked to do - to the best of his ability. He could reasonably improve in some areas (his general pressing for example). But overall he's getting the ball on the touchline a lot, he's not well supported by the LB and he has no chemistry or connection with the LCM and passing isn't one of his strengths. I've got no complaints. He's doing what he can. There's areas he can improve on but he's doing as much as can be expected at this stage. Edited September 20, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Maybe Gordon should be used as a Bellamy equivalent just off Callum Wilson (Shearer) or Isak (Kluivert) So it’s a front 6 of Bruno Tonali Almiron Joelinton gordon Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDT said: 6 games into the season 6 games in to the season + another 16 from last season. So when are we allowed to have an opinion to this lad? I dont think he is or see himself as a winger, according to some articles in the summer he believes his best position is central striker. I think his postional play, pressing and tackling is his weakest strengths, he is often in no mans lands and only jogs back instead of helping his team mates out defensivly. Tonali covered his postion most of the game yesterday, something I think he was having an argument of with some of the players and Howe at some point. I do think this is one of the reasons why our midfielders seem so unbalanced this season, and you can see teams are taking advantage of this side. Attacking I dont think he offers more than Almiron tbh. Also should be noted that it looks like a red card waiting for him for loosing his head and could/should have had a couple all ready. Havent seen enough of Barnes to know if he could balance the midfield more, so atm I hope Big Joe will come back as strong as he was last season. Gordon is still young so still have faith in him, but we or mainly himself needs to find out his best position in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, TBG said: Love how St Maximum attempting to take on 3 or 4 players and not passing in time is unpredictable, but Gordon failing at attempting to take on someone is no end product. I think he probably has an average-to-goodish talent ceiling, which is probably difficult for us to reason with given his polarising nature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Can't help but feel one of the problems with us looking a little disjointed is the fact that Gordon tends to get his head down and run when he receives the ball. Often he runs infield, which takes him away from an overlapping full-back, into a midfield where nobody seems quite sure where they are supposed to be. Last night Trippier was nowhere near Gordon. In isolation he is pretty easy to defend against. If Isak is dropping deep, there is little to no chance of the two of them linking up and things just peter out. I'm really curious as to what we look like with Livramento and Hall at full back. Think we'd have direct pace in forward areas, recovery pace in defensive areas and quality delivery from overlapping full-backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) General consensus from people seems to be that so far: - Our press is less intense than last year - Trippier appears to be less advanced - Tonali doesn’t quite understand his position / tactical role - Bruno has been a bit off the boil - We lack an attacking threat from LB - Strikers are pretty isolated without a great deal of support from central areas - Pope has been out of form - We’ve played 5 out of six games against pretty high quality opposition and yet we’re still banging on about Maxi doing a dribble. I get it, he was exciting to watch and at times he could open up a defence in a counter, but I can’t see which of the issues above having him would really address. Edit - and even with all that above Gordon has looked our most threatening player. Edited September 20, 2023 by AJ9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, AJ9 said: General consensus from people seems to be that so far: - Our press is less intense than last year - Trippier appears to be less advanced - Tonali doesn’t quite understand his position / tactical role - Bruno has been a bit off the boil - We lack an attacking threat from LB - Strikers are pretty isolated without a great deal of support from central areas - Pope has been out of form - We’ve played 5 out of six games against pretty high quality opposition and yet we’re still banging on about Maxi doing a dribble. I get it, he was exciting to watch and at times he could open up a defence in a counter, but I can’t see which of the issues above having him would really address. Edit - and even with all that above Gordon has looked our most threatening player. not to mention he probably wouldn't have even been available, for one reason or another. That, of course, being the most compelling reason to swap him for another option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Yorkie said: not to mention he probably wouldn't have even been available, for one reason or another. That, of course, being the most compelling reason to swap him for another option. 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: St Max disrupted the opposition more and attracted extra defenders. Any coincidence Isak has appeared more marked with less room this season ? They played a grand total of 14 Premier League games together. St Max playing for longer than Isak in 3 of those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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