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[The League Cup Final] Newcastle United vs. Manchester United: 26/02/2023 @ 4.30pm (Sky)


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1 hour ago, Gawalls said:

Really hope he’s doesnt drop maxi then and go back to normal. 

 

Fairly sure that won't happen.  Maxi's been given the chance he's been waiting for and earned his spot now, it's his to lose imo. 

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

 

I know what you mean. I've mentioned it a few times now but my emotions are up and down these days.

 

I've had brief spells of the intense feelings suddenly being reduced and that invariably gets me down a bit whenever it's happened. After we won at Spurs, for instance, I suddenly went quite numb for a bit. 

 

There's a few things which contribute to it, I think. It's a symptom of the damage left behind from so much time spent feeling apathetic or outright anti-NUFC during the Ashley era; there's the problematic nature of the current ownership; there's the fact I no longer identify with some of the fanbase (having grown up wishing I was a 'real' Geordie); there's the relentlessness of this season's fixture list (less time to 'miss' the team) and there's all of the other unlikable things about the nature of today's game at the elite level. Then there's this notion that NUFC, suddenly, are inevitably going to be successful - which, if you believe it, has emotional implications and philosophical quandaries given the 'why', and given who we might compare ourselves to if indeed the trophies do come along. 

 

Thankfully, there's so much that's good about what's happening - new characters to associate with and fall in love with, redemption stories, drama on the pitch, still punching above our weight despite the changing circumstances, the novelty of cup runs - that my fleeting spells of numbness get batted away without too much fuss. 

 

And there's nothing like a proper weekend-ruiner (like yesterday) to rejuvenate those feelings of anguish/disappointment/rage which are then repurposed as desperation to win by the time the next game comes along. If I needed it, my mindset about next week has been given a serious shot of nerves/excitement now that I'm less confident. 

I agree with much of this. Another thing for me is not having a season ticket after having one for almost 20 years before Bruce came. I feel more on the periphery  these days. Even more so with recent debates about who deserves Wembley tickets and ‘rewarding loyal fans’. Doesn’t help, when you can get tickets they’re are typically in the Leazes which doesn’t compare in anyway to the strawberry corner. 

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One area we should be having a field day with next week is set pieces as their current first choice team (I presume it will be this) is quite small. It's however the one big failing we have and it does piss me off when you see the height we have, and yet we are pretty toothless. We need to be attacking balls into the box. 

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13 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

One area we should be having a field day with next week is set pieces as their current first choice team (I presume it will be this) is quite small. It's however the one big failing we have and it does piss me off when you see the height we have, and yet we are pretty toothless. We need to be attacking balls into the box. 

 

I think our set pieces only improve when we reintroduce matt targetts left foot as a variation

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30 minutes ago, geordie_b said:

 

I think our set pieces only improve when we reintroduce matt targetts left foot as a variation


Yeah wouldn't argue there, but I don't see Targett replacing Burn in Howe's mind. Needs sorting either way as it's been ineffective in the main all season, when it should be one of our biggest strengths. 

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43 minutes ago, geordie_b said:

 

I think our set pieces only improve when we reintroduce matt targetts left foot as a variation

 

Diagree to some extent though, as Burn, Schar and Botman yet to score a header and all had some cracking chances. Although worst out the 4 lascelles probably the best header of a ball.

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28 minutes ago, et tu brute said:


Yeah wouldn't argue there, but I don't see Targett replacing Burn in Howe's mind. Needs sorting either way as it's been ineffective in the main all season, when it should be one of our biggest strengths. 

 

Its like set pieces under Southgate, was a massive weapon in Russia then went cold

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1 hour ago, ilikenewcastle said:

Of all the faux outrage I hear from our fans, the whole United thing annoys me the most (moaning about the BBC showing/referring to the Hereford game is a close second).

It doesn’t for me.  It’s the club’s name for fuck’s sake.

 

And everyone I’ve ever met refers to ‘Man Yoo’ and ‘Man City’, not ‘United’ or ‘City’.

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2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It doesn’t for me.  It’s the club’s name for fuck’s sake.

 

And everyone I’ve ever met refers to ‘Man Yoo’ and ‘Man City’, not ‘United’ or ‘City’.

I maybe should have been clearer, I was referring to outrage at them being called Manchester United and us simply Newcastle. I refuse to believe that genuinely upsets people. Also I'd say loads of people refer to the Manc clubs as United and City.

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1 minute ago, ilikenewcastle said:

I maybe should have been clearer, I was referring to outrage at them being called Manchester United and us simply Newcastle. I refuse to believe that genuinely upsets people. Also I'd say loads of people refer to the Manc clubs as United and City.

Never met anyone on Tyneside call them ‘United’ or ‘City’

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1 hour ago, ilikenewcastle said:

Of all the faux outrage I hear from our fans, the whole United thing annoys me the most (moaning about the BBC showing/referring to the Hereford game is a close second).

We are Newcastle United. It's not difficult. In fact it's rude/disrespectful.

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8 minutes ago, ilikenewcastle said:

The whole country calls us Newcastle, nobody calls them West Ham UNITED or Tottenham HOTSPUR either.

 

Anyway getting back on topic, I hope we win the cup final lads.

Aye, but we're Newcastle United. Tottenham get Spurs or Aston Villa might get Villa in general conversation, but when on Sky they shouldnt just erase the name out of sheer pig ignorance :lol:

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Heron said:

We are Newcastle United. It's not difficult. In fact it's rude/disrespectful.

Especially when it's two Uniteds. This isn't a Newcastle thing, it would piss me off if it was West Ham and Southend but only one was given the "United".

 

Worse will happen on Sunday when the commentator will talk of "United" meaning them, at which point my spleen will be vented.

 

 

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23 hours ago, Stifler said:

People saying the final has come at the wrong time, form etc will see us lose.

Fucking hell, cups are all about League form being irrelevant. In this League Cup alone you can look at the wins of various teams where League form has meant fuck all. Swansea, Birmingham, Boro, heck Blackburn and Leicester as well.

Fucking hell, Southampton beat Man City to play us in the semi’s.

You could actually say that the League Cup is now due a more unlikely winner on the basis of history/statistics/law of probability.

In the FA Cup we have seen the likes of Wigan and Portsmouth win the final. Both of their wins were against the run of form etc.

 

I also think a lot of people are over playing Man Utd’s form. Heck they got beat to Arsenal a couple of weeks ago, and were lucky to get a draw at home to Leeds, and beat them a few games later.

Their performances haven’t been all that when people have watched them play. They are not the unbeatable force everyone thinks they are.

 

Aye I’d rather be playing Nottingham Forest in the final, but if you had offered any of our fans at any point in history the chance to win the cup by playing Man Utd in the final, everyone would take it and be optimistic.

This season we have lost 3 games all season going into the end of February, one of them against Liverpool where 1 goal for us was disallowed despite being ok, and losing by a goal in 98th minute when 5 minutes were added on. Another game where some of our 1st team players were out to be replaced by squad players we know are not good enough, and the 3rd against Liverpool where on another day we would have won, despite being down to 10 men for vast majority of it.

On top of that we have not lost 2 games on the bounce and in games where we have been poor, we have still got a result out of it.

 

I’m not saying we are going to win, that’s why we play the game, but fuck me, it’s not the straight forward loss everyone else thinks it is.

So go out there, stick £100 on Man Utd to fuck the bookies over incase the worst happens, have hope, and remember, even if the worse does happen, at least we aren’t some Cockney cunt who ‘supports’ Man Utd who couldn’t really actually give a fuck about this game, and we actually live for our club.


Newcastle is our city.

It is where we work, where we, our family, and friends live, it’s where we call home, it’s our lives.

We are Geordies, we give the world the electric light, we give them the steam engine, built them the ships, where the coal for our power stations and even our fires at home came from. We introduced the world to the train. We literally dragged the world out of the fucking cold and the dark and into the modern era.

Newcastle United is who we put forward to represent our great city, and our city is going be a success again, maybe in the 26th February, maybe we might have to wait a bit longer, but we will be a success once again!

 

 

 

 


Forest drew with citeh… footbaals football bring these cuntz on. Howayy

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As has been mentioned by the more balanced types on the forum, these fuckers can be got at. Leicester were all over them today for the first 20,missed 2 great chances to go ahead. We have Maxi fit and raring to go and on a mission, it's massively exciting

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It doesn’t for me.  It’s the club’s name for fuck’s sake.

 

And everyone I’ve ever met refers to ‘Man Yoo’ and ‘Man City’, not ‘United’ or ‘City’.

 

All of Australia, Asia, Africa and the States refer to them as United. It pisses me off when people I meet say they support United. 

 

If I respond is Leeds, West Ham, Newcastle which United?, you invariable get a blank look. 

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