Jack27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Without checking are Everton fans up in arms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Just now, Jack27 said: Without checking are Everton fans up in arms? They’re scouse and therefore the victims of a conspiracy. Their club shouldn’t have been held to account for obviously breaching rules that Leeds, Leicester and Southampton didn’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Without checking are Everton fans up in arms? Yeah, they're not best pleased. I understand to be fair, you might say the time has come for Masters to resign. Edited February 9 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Yeah, they're not best pleased. I understand to be fair, you might say the time has come for Masters to resign. During his tenure Masters has overseen two new domestic TV deals, one which was sold for the same value as the existing deal without going to tender, the only deal at the time to not increase in value. The second deal has been sold at below the same year to year value (increasing the number of years in the process). A deal which many clubs are unhappy with and are complaining that the Premier League was not receptive of streaming providers. Not to mention that during the pandemic he tried to introduce PPV for games when people had nothing to do or watch, as well as not being able to attend games. A decision he had to go back on only weeks later. 1 club has been docked 10 points for failing to comply with FFP, even though the Premier League themselves had their own accountant sat in the room with the clubs accountants. He brought in Hoffman to prevent the takeover of Newcastle on behalf of 5 of the top 6 clubs. Hoffman was effectively sacked when it failed. He has seen the top 6 attempt to steal control of football in England, of which he was included in discussions of. Just months later the same top 6 also attempted a breakaway for the ESL, of which he did fuck all to try and prevent, even giving them the opportunity to determine their own punishment. He has lost a long standing symbolic sponsorship deal with Nike as the ball supplier to the Premier League. He has seen the Premier League subjected to legal challenges by Ashley, and at the time our prospective owners. He is now on the verge of taking the Premier League to court against the likes of Everton, and Man City respectively. He has allowed Burnley be bought with their own money, only to ban such deals a few months later. He has failed to come to a deal with the EFL over future payment structures, an issue that has been ongoing for years now. He has went into parliament and called certain clubs small clubs. He had failed to implement the automatic offside that the Champions League has, as well as the World Cup, this lead to some disastrous decision, such as the Liverpool no goal. He’s been an absolute fucking disaster and doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing. How the fuck he got the job in the first place is beyond anyone, especially when his record wasn’t said to be clean with the ECB. How he is still in the position is even more baffling. Edited February 10 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, Stifler said: During his tenure Masters has overseen two new domestic TV deals, one which was sold for the same value as the existing deal without going to tender, the only deal at the time to not increase in value. The second deal has been sold at below the same year to year value (increasing the number of years in the process). A deal which many clubs are unhappy with and are complaining that the Premier League was not receptive of streaming providers. 1 club has been docked 10 points for failing to comply with FFP, even though the Premier League themselves had their own accountant sat in the room with the clubs accountants . He brought in Hoffman to prevent the takeover of Newcastle on behalf of 5 of the top 6 clubs. Hoffman was effectively sacked when it failed. He has seen the top 6 attempt to steal control of football in England, of which he was included in discussions of. Just months later the same top 6 also attempted a breakaway for the ESL, of which he did fuck all to try and prevent, even given them the opportunity to determine their own punishment. He has lost a long standing symbolic sponsorship deal with Nike as the ball supplier to the Premier League. He has seen the Premier League subjected to legal challenges by Ashley, and at the time our prospective owners. He is now on the verge of taking the Premier League to court against the likes of Everton, and Man City respectively. He has allowed Burnley be bought with their own money, only to ban such deals a few months later. He has failed to come to a deal with EFL over future payment structures, an issue that has been ongoing for years now. He has went into parliament and called certain clubs small clubs. He had failed to implement the automatic offside that the Champions League has, as well as the World Cup, this lead to some disastrous decision, such as the Liverpool no goal. He’s been an absolute fucking disaster and doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing. How the fuck he got the job in the first place is beyond anyone, especially when his record wasn’t said to be clean with the ECB. How he is still in the position is even more baffling. But apart from that, he's actually done ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 20 minutes ago, Stifler said: During his tenure Masters has overseen two new domestic TV deals, one which was sold for the same value as the existing deal without going to tender, the only deal at the time to not increase in value. The second deal has been sold at below the same year to year value (increasing the number of years in the process). A deal which many clubs are unhappy with and are complaining that the Premier League was not receptive of streaming providers. 1 club has been docked 10 points for failing to comply with FFP, even though the Premier League themselves had their own accountant sat in the room with the clubs accountants . He brought in Hoffman to prevent the takeover of Newcastle on behalf of 5 of the top 6 clubs. Hoffman was effectively sacked when it failed. He has seen the top 6 attempt to steal control of football in England, of which he was included in discussions of. Just months later the same top 6 also attempted a breakaway for the ESL, of which he did fuck all to try and prevent, even given them the opportunity to determine their own punishment. He has lost a long standing symbolic sponsorship deal with Nike as the ball supplier to the Premier League. He has seen the Premier League subjected to legal challenges by Ashley, and at the time our prospective owners. He is now on the verge of taking the Premier League to court against the likes of Everton, and Man City respectively. He has allowed Burnley be bought with their own money, only to ban such deals a few months later. He has failed to come to a deal with EFL over future payment structures, an issue that has been ongoing for years now. He has went into parliament and called certain clubs small clubs. He had failed to implement the automatic offside that the Champions League has, as well as the World Cup, this lead to some disastrous decision, such as the Liverpool no goal. He’s been an absolute fucking disaster and doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing. How the fuck he got the job in the first place is beyond anyone, especially when his record wasn’t said to be clean with the ECB. How he is still in the position is even more baffling. You’re not a fan, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: You’re not a fan, then? Even if I took away how I saw through him during our takeover saga, you can’t look at what he’s done objectively and say that he’s done a good job. The Premier League has always been a little bit of a pantomime, but now he’s turned it into a weekly one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: No, because abstentions don’t equal no votes. 14 votes gives the two-thirds majority of clubs - two clubs not voting doesn’t mean that those two clubs don’t exist Another PL rule that should be reformed Mate, say no all you want, but it literally says each club has a right to vote and it requires a two third majority of the vote: ”Each Member Club is entitled to one vote and all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds vote, or 14 clubs, to be agreed.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 45 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Mate, say no all you want, but it literally says each club has a right to vote and it requires a two third majority of the vote: ”Each Member Club is entitled to one vote and all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds vote, or 14 clubs, to be agreed.” I know the rule says no, I’m saying it’s another rule which needs reformed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Stifler said: Even if I took away how I saw through him during our takeover saga, you can’t look at what he’s done objectively and say that he’s done a good job. The Premier League has always been a little bit of a pantomime, but now he’s turned it into a weekly one. Don’t worry I think he’s a wanker too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Stifler said: During his tenure Masters has overseen two new domestic TV deals, one which was sold for the same value as the existing deal without going to tender, the only deal at the time to not increase in value. The second deal has been sold at below the same year to year value (increasing the number of years in the process). A deal which many clubs are unhappy with and are complaining that the Premier League was not receptive of streaming providers. Not to mention that during the pandemic he tried to introduce PPV for games when people had nothing to do or watch, as well as not being able to attend games. A decision he had to go back on only weeks later. 1 club has been docked 10 points for failing to comply with FFP, even though the Premier League themselves had their own accountant sat in the room with the clubs accountants . He brought in Hoffman to prevent the takeover of Newcastle on behalf of 5 of the top 6 clubs. Hoffman was effectively sacked when it failed. He has seen the top 6 attempt to steal control of football in England, of which he was included in discussions of. Just months later the same top 6 also attempted a breakaway for the ESL, of which he did fuck all to try and prevent, even giving them the opportunity to determine their own punishment. He has lost a long standing symbolic sponsorship deal with Nike as the ball supplier to the Premier League. He has seen the Premier League subjected to legal challenges by Ashley, and at the time our prospective owners. He is now on the verge of taking the Premier League to court against the likes of Everton, and Man City respectively. He has allowed Burnley be bought with their own money, only to ban such deals a few months later. He has failed to come to a deal with the EFL over future payment structures, an issue that has been ongoing for years now. He has went into parliament and called certain clubs small clubs. He had failed to implement the automatic offside that the Champions League has, as well as the World Cup, this lead to some disastrous decision, such as the Liverpool no goal. He’s been an absolute fucking disaster and doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing. How the fuck he got the job in the first place is beyond anyone, especially when his record wasn’t said to be clean with the ECB. How he is still in the position is even more baffling. Sounds like a shoe-in to replace Ceferin at UEFA then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Stifler said: During his tenure Masters has overseen two new domestic TV deals, one which was sold for the same value as the existing deal without going to tender, the only deal at the time to not increase in value. The second deal has been sold at below the same year to year value (increasing the number of years in the process). A deal which many clubs are unhappy with and are complaining that the Premier League was not receptive of streaming providers. Not to mention that during the pandemic he tried to introduce PPV for games when people had nothing to do or watch, as well as not being able to attend games. A decision he had to go back on only weeks later. 1 club has been docked 10 points for failing to comply with FFP, even though the Premier League themselves had their own accountant sat in the room with the clubs accountants . He brought in Hoffman to prevent the takeover of Newcastle on behalf of 5 of the top 6 clubs. Hoffman was effectively sacked when it failed. He has seen the top 6 attempt to steal control of football in England, of which he was included in discussions of. Just months later the same top 6 also attempted a breakaway for the ESL, of which he did fuck all to try and prevent, even giving them the opportunity to determine their own punishment. He has lost a long standing symbolic sponsorship deal with Nike as the ball supplier to the Premier League. He has seen the Premier League subjected to legal challenges by Ashley, and at the time our prospective owners. He is now on the verge of taking the Premier League to court against the likes of Everton, and Man City respectively. He has allowed Burnley be bought with their own money, only to ban such deals a few months later. He has failed to come to a deal with the EFL over future payment structures, an issue that has been ongoing for years now. He has went into parliament and called certain clubs small clubs. He had failed to implement the automatic offside that the Champions League has, as well as the World Cup, this lead to some disastrous decision, such as the Liverpool no goal. He’s been an absolute fucking disaster and doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing. How the fuck he got the job in the first place is beyond anyone, especially when his record wasn’t said to be clean with the ECB. How he is still in the position is even more baffling. Plus, hes got the type of face you would never get tired of punching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Will never forgot how he acted during our takeover. Was a proper little puppet for the big 6 and dragging things out for as long as possible so he could keep his best pals Levy and co satisfied.. The one good thing Ashley done was throw the legal book at masters and the PL and they couldn't handle it. Man City will have a field day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I can definitely understand the anger towards him about the new deal ignoring streamers. Peacock paid $110m to get one NFL playoff game this season. It was just announced Amazon is paying more than that to get one next year. Apple and Amazon would have been ready to spend big. Other than that, almost everything else he’s done (or not done) feels like it can be explained by the fact he’s just a puppet for the whims of three or four clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I’m still interested at which way clubs voted and who abstained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, FloydianMag said: I’m still interested at which way clubs voted and who abstained. Wild to me clubs are even allowed to abstain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Two clubs that supposedly abstained were Aston Villa and Crystal Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Two clubs that supposedly abstained were Aston Villa and Crystal Palace Steve Parish fucking hates us and loves FFP as it means he can keep all that pension money that the fans gave him so that he could save invest in Palace without much threat. The only reason they would have abstained is because a couple of weeks ago they came to an agreement with Sainsbury’s which allows them to build their new stand. They are obviously worried that they now can’t. Edited February 10 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Jack27 said: Two clubs that supposedly abstained were Aston Villa and Crystal Palace Where did you hear that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, FloydianMag said: Where did you hear that? The athletic said Villa abstained Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Where did you hear that? https://theathletic.com/5263762/2024/02/10/premier-league-meeting-associated-parties/?source=user_shared_article Edited February 10 by Jack27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 “Where appropriate”. I’ll tell him where it’s appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Abstaining from a critical vote because his feelings were hurt in the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I thought that Sky Geezer said we would find out Everton's appeal verdict this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 https://www.footballfancast.com/everton-ffp-appeal-news-farhad-moshiri-777-partners/ Are football insider reliable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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