et tu brute Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: This all sounds so perfect that it reads like total fantasy to me. It's not with any other industry though, just football. Owners should be allowed to invest in their own business as they seem fit (as long as it's legal) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 19 minutes ago, gbandit said: Slightly ironic given who we’re owned by Touché Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Government intervention should be required, but it once again proves the idea that "the markets can regulate themselves" is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Surely the new UEFA regulations will supersede anything the premier league or the government come up with, unless our clubs are not planning on playing in UEFA competitions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 49 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Surely the new UEFA regulations will supersede anything the premier league or the government come up with, unless our clubs are not planning on playing in UEFA competitions? Yep. The PL can have its own rules re owner investment, but UEFA can still punish clubs within the federation for stepping over UEFA regs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 hours ago, Away Toon said: Surely the new UEFA regulations will supersede anything the premier league or the government come up with, unless our clubs are not planning on playing in UEFA competitions? Not so sure about that, FIFA had to backtrack on capping agents fees after a ruling here in the UK and in a Court in Dortmund. All it would require is legal challenges against UEFA should they impose sanctions. https://x.com/nickdemarco_/status/1741102055014433221?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yep. The PL can have its own rules re owner investment, but UEFA can still punish clubs within the federation for stepping over UEFA regs And as other have said legal challenges here can force quick about turns from UEFA. See the recent case on agent fees being capped for a recent example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Some interesting bits: To begin with, it's levy will raise a budget of only £10 million, meaning at least to begin with, it'll be a pretty small regulator. It'll be able to impose fines of up to 10% of a club's annual revenue for breaching their licence and can force a sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Reading this morning that 5th place in the league will now likely mean CL football. Can’t have Man U missing out on the CL money can we.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, Mase said: Reading this morning that 5th place in the league will now likely mean CL football. Can’t have Man U missing out on the CL money can we.. That has nothing to do with it it was always likely the premier league would get an extra spot this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: That has nothing to do with it it was always likely the premier league would get an extra spot this season. Yet, we’ll see Spurs get some awful decisions over the next few weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 That's a bit shit when we're not up there. Ideally it would have been top 4 only with Villa getting that last spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Not really a surprise, but there's a lot of talk about Chelsea being in loads of trouble to comply (which there has been talk of for a long time, but hasn't happened yet). I just really really hope that the Saudis doesn't bail them out of trouble once again... They might have to rely on the Saudis. Edited March 20 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Erikse said: Not really a surprise, but there's a lot of talk about Chelsea being in loads of trouble to comply (which there has been talk of for a long time, but hasn't happened yet). I just really really hope that the Saudis doesn't bail them out of trouble once again... They might have to rely on the Saudis. They have plenty of players to sell off who others will willingly take off their hands. They'll be able to comply due to a firesale but could well leave them weaker on the pitch. Edited March 20 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, madras said: They have plenty of players to sell off who others will willingly take off their hands. They'll be able to comply due to a firesale but could well leave them weaker on the pitch. True….other clubs know they’ll be desperate, might be a bargain or two to be had! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Somebody fire up the Connor Gallagher thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Last summer they offloaded some hard to sell players to Saudi. I guess they don't have as many of those anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, madras said: They have plenty of players to sell off who others will willingly take off their hands. They'll be able to comply due to a firesale but could well leave them weaker on the pitch. Don’t count on that, most of the players they can sell would be sold at a loss so would have an even greater impact to FFP and P&S rules, if it’s true that they have to raise over £100m to comply with P&S they don’t have that many homegrown players left to make that sum, apparently spurs pulled out of the £60m Connor Gallagher deal in January because they think they will get him for under £50m in June when Chelsea are desperate, that only leaves sicknote Reese James with any true value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 16 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Don’t count on that, most of the players they can sell would be sold at a loss so would have an even greater impact to FFP and P&S rules, if it’s true that they have to raise over £100m to comply with P&S they don’t have that many homegrown players left to make that sum, apparently spurs pulled out of the £60m Connor Gallagher deal in January because they think they will get him for under £50m in June when Chelsea are desperate, that only leaves sicknote Reese James with any true value. Hall, Maatsen and Lukaku's release clause could get them there. Then there's James, Chalobah, and Broja. There's definitely a possibility they can do this while holding Gallagher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 33 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Hall, Maatsen and Lukaku's release clause could get them there. Then there's James, Chalobah, and Broja. There's definitely a possibility they can do this while holding Gallagher. Hall was against last years P&S for Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, nufcnick said: Hall was against last years P&S for Chelsea He's not, that's why it's a loan to buy. Though it's actually fair to question whether it helps them in June since in theory that should be a July 1 purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Fuck FFP .......get the cheque book oot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: He's not, that's why it's a loan to buy. Though it's actually fair to question whether it helps them in June since in theory that should be a July 1 purchase. They wrote it against this years books, go back and have a look and they will lose massively on Lukaku Edited March 20 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 44 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Hall, Maatsen and Lukaku's release clause could get them there. Then there's James, Chalobah, and Broja. There's definitely a possibility they can do this while holding Gallagher. Colwill as well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 34 minutes ago, nufcnick said: They wrote it against this years books, go back and have a look and they will lose massively on Lukaku I'm not following your timeline. If they wrote it against this season's books (i.e. 23/24) then that's the same as the sales they reportedly need to make in June. On Lukaku it won't help in terms of pure profit, but if the fee mentioned with Roma happens then it would offset almost £40m of their remaining amortisation charges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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