The Prophet Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 The Panel seem to indicate that the APT Rules as they currently stand are void, but the PL are stating no ruling was made on the present rules was made and will plough on with the second tribunal. Intriguing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 £60m Sela sponsorship this summer please - and then give a quarter of that to Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Panel seem to indicate that the APT Rules as they currently stand are void, but the PL are stating no ruling was made on the present rules was made and will plough on with the second tribunal. Intriguing. I’m not sure they could have said anything else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: The Panel seem to indicate that the APT Rules as they currently stand are void, but the PL are stating no ruling was made on the present rules was made and will plough on with the second tribunal. Intriguing. Which is weird, because wasn't their whole argument that they could just make small changes to the existing rules based on the fact the original rules weren't null and void? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sky still delaying getting this news out I see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just logged on, could anyone please sum up what it all means ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Just logged on, could anyone please sum up what it all means ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 14 minutes ago, Shak said: Isn't the point that we could get absolutely fucking massive revenue from new sponsorship deals and then we'd be fine for UEFA's rules as our much higher squad cost would be offset by our much higher revenue? I think his point is that UEFA have their own fair value process: Quote J.8.1 In situations where the declared fair value of a transaction is assessed by the CFCB, an independent third-party assessor will perform a fair value assessment conform to standard market practices and assign a fair value to the transaction. The club may choose an independent third-party assessor which has been approved by UEFA. J.8.2 The assessment of commercial transactions must be based on the procedure approved by the CFCB. J.8.3 If the licensee initiates a fair value assessment or the CFCB reviews a fair value declared by the licensee as per these regulations, the licensee can appoint an independent third-party assessor from the shortlist of entities approved by UEFA to perform such fair-value assessment. The third-party assessor must not be subject to any conflict of interest with the licensee or a related party of the licensee (e.g. otherwise contracted with the licensee or licensee’s related party in any other business during the relevant period including the current licence season) and will be required to confirm its independence. J.8.4 If the fair value assessment performed by a third-party assessor appointed by the licensee is deemed satisfactory by the CFCB, the corresponding assigned fair value is then used for the calculation of football earnings and/or the squad cost ratio. J.8.5 The CFCB reserves the right to mandate additional approved third-party assessors to perform an additional fair value assessment of the same transaction under review. In this situation, the fair value used for the calculation of football earnings and/or the squad cost ratio corresponds to the average of fair values indicated in the two fair value assessment reports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 TBF, the EPL have nothing to really worry about with us, Howe and his team would never sanction £1 billion spend on Galaticos anyway, they might spend 20% of that this summer and hand out a few improved contracts but we have always insisted on organic growth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, On the Grid said: Sky still delaying getting this news out I see? It's been on, was at 19:20. The presenters just read statement without any real discussion. Edited February 14 by frankpingel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Myleftboot said: If we have the evidence that between 2021 and November 2024 our income (Turnover/Revenue) was restricted by the established "void" APT rules, by reducing our sponsorship over those years, then we can sue to get those deals approved - thus vastly increasing our future commercial income. That will enable us to spend much more in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Ah ok. Missed it unsurprisingly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I honestly don't care if their are rules in place that stop us going on a massive spending spree, and I actually think a form of financial fair play, that keeps the field even is a very good thing for the game as a whole, as it keeps everything competitive and stops monopoly's from forming. I know it's very American, and it also has some big flaws, but this competitiveness is one of the reasons I kind of like the draft system, the teams at the top fluctuate, and the teams and the bottom have a chance to improve and challenge in 3/4 years time. But these rules where designed purely to stop clubs with ambition from being able to enact on that ambition, from us, to Villa, all Richard Masters and by association the Big 6 clubs wanted was stop clubs from sharing the lucrative pie they had kept all to themselves. Honestly the way these rules where introduced was so transparent and so egregious and avoidable that the Premier League deserve everything thats going to happen to them, and it's going to be fun to watch it all burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Just logged on, could anyone please sum up what it all means ? Man City has taken a step towards the end of PSR because it doesn’t comply with U.K. law. Sponsorships that were proposed between 2021-2024 can be signed off and clubs can sue the Premier League for any losses that they incurred due to the rules. It makes for very bad legal standing of the new rules they imposed a couple of months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristov Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, frankpingel said: It's been on, was at 19:20. The presenters just read statement without any real discussion. fuck all on the website as well, typical SlySports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, On the Grid said: Ah ok. Missed it unsurprisingly Should it not be on the yellow breaking news banner? I'd have thought so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Ben said: TBF, the EPL have nothing to really worry about with us, Howe and his team would never sanction £1 billion spend on Galaticos anyway, they might spend 20% of that this summer and hand out a few improved contracts but we have always insisted on organic growth. We have probably only down the organic thing because of the rules in the first place. We would have likely done a PSG or Man City type splurge of cash initially before settling down and making it more ‘sustainable’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 The irony is that most of us don't really even want to go full gallactico, we just want to be able to improve the bloody first team over 3 transfer windows. We're what? A top GK, RW and CB away from being a really really top side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 14 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Do UEFA have their own version of APT rules? Not that I’m aware of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Can we have Anderson back, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Mike said: Can we have Anderson back, then? We don’t need him now, we are signing Valverde. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 The joy of football, eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, Likelylad said: The irony is that most of us don't really even want to go full gallactico, we just want to be able to improve the bloody first team over 3 transfer windows. We're what? A top GK, RW and CB away from being a really really top side. We know that Eddie isn't a manager who wants that either. Just allow us to compete and stop stifling our potential growth is all we ask really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, On the Grid said: We know that Eddie isn't a manager who wants that either. Just allow us to compete and stop stifling our potential growth is all we ask really He wants to spend £120m on a PL CB and a PL winger tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Going galactico would suggest 120m and 400kpw on a RW though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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