Monters Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 16 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Brightons doing well , smidgen behind blues, clearly pays to get those on the way up to flog on. Would the owners and support base be happy to finish where Brighton do most seasons but have loads of PSR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 22 minutes ago, Monters said: Would the owners and support base be happy to finish where Brighton do most seasons but have loads of PSR? Nope,but it would provide then with greater options than we have, for a smaller team ( don't mean in a derogatory manner) they've done really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 19 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: NONSENSE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) First thing, right at this point of the year, used to be the excitement of all the transfer rumours, wondering what the next season and future have in store, all the refreshing changes.... replaced by PSR headroom and who can sell assets to themselves and who cant. Edited June 5 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 46 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: I would love to know the exact criteria used to base the FMV. Some of these sponsors who have "overvalued" could see it as an investment in the future etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just looking at ours is evidence enough that the whole concept is a sham. A sponsorship is more valuable if a club plays more high profile games that are on TV, so fair enough that a club in the Champions League would garner more money. We weren't in Europe this past season so at the outset the value was theoretically lower. Except we then went and won a damn trophy. SELA is now emblazoned on pictures and videos that will stand the test of time (the same can be applied to Crystal Palace). We played extra games against Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool. All of that is worth far more than anyone could have put a number on in the summer. And this is without even considering the advertiser side of things where a certain sponsorship could be worth it to a particular company for any number of reasons. I hope we can take the next deal to £40m+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Man City and Chelsea have that theoretical nice clean FFP/PSR headroom because they've been able to invest in their organisations for many years The very investment they're denying ourselves and Villa of deploying and thus depriving us of getting to the point where we can spend a lot of legit money within their bullshit PSR system. 1 hour ago, Tisd09 said: I would love to know the exact criteria used to base the FMV. Some of these sponsors who have "overvalued" could see it as an investment in the future etc. Said this before but whatever McEwans paid Blackburn (a middling 2nd tier club) in 91 might have seemed a lot but by 1995 they're league champions and in the champions league. Ended up a great deal for all concerned but would now be stopped at source. Basically speculating to accumlate is outlawed, except for all the gambling adds, that's just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENKAAA Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Think I saw somewhere we get an uplift on our sponsorship deal with Adidas for CL qualification? So beyond £25m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 16 minutes ago, PENKAAA said: Think I saw somewhere we get an uplift on our sponsorship deal with Adidas for CL qualification? So beyond £25m. Caulkin reported it in the Athletic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: I’m telling you now, Ashley will end up buying them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 53 minutes ago, gdm said: What does that mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, Ben said: What does that mean Seems like a non-story Teams can lose 15m over a rolling 3 year period, but an additional 90m can be added if the loss is funded by the owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I still don't get why an owner can't invest their own money into their own club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 2 minutes ago, Ben said: What does that mean PSR losses are £105m over a three year period provided that owners put in equity investment of up to £30m/yr, so £90m total over a 3 year assessment period if no investment is made then allowable losses are only £5m/yr or £15 in a rolling 3 year assesment period. Prior to Sir Jim Rat, the Glazers did not invest so their allowable losses were only £15m - Ratty's £237m allowed them to include £90m of that in the most recent PSR calcs giving them headroom not to be sanctioned last year (where those incredible deductions for COVID and takeover "costs" wouldn't have saved them from a points deduction) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 3 hours ago, Tisd09 said: I would love to know the exact criteria used to base the FMV. Some of these sponsors who have "overvalued" could see it as an investment in the future etc. No idea how that front of shirt sponsor thing is calculated. But I thought FMV is proven by a club if they can show they would be the same/similar amounts from elsewhere. For example, we would need to prove that an unrelated 3rd party would pay the same amount as Sela do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I despise Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, gdm said: I despise Chelsea Mad how Chelsea are top, yet are pretty much the reason Brighton are second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 05/06/2025 at 13:20, Monters said: Would the owners and support base be happy to finish where Brighton do most seasons but have loads of PSR? I'd be happy to scout, sign and develop players at the rate Brighton do. We wouldn't need to sell unless we wanted to. Only way we get around PSR is finding potential and making stars regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 05/06/2025 at 18:46, gdm said: I despise Chelsea The disgust I have for them making CL is nearly as bad as if we hadn't qualified. Then again, it would have made no difference, their holding company would just buy the tealady for 200 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Saturday at 14:53 Share Posted Saturday at 14:53 If PSR was supposed to prevent clubs from going to the wall, then teams like Man Utd and Spurs wouldn’t be allowed such large amounts of debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Saturday at 15:01 Share Posted Saturday at 15:01 6 minutes ago, Stifler said: If PSR was supposed to prevent clubs from going to the wall, then teams like Man Utd and Spurs wouldn’t be allowed such large amounts of debt. Well they can afford to pay the cost for that debt can’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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