Unbelievable Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: As far as I know there’s no fair market assessment for UEFA. But the PL aren’t discussing dropping that element. They are discussing the revenue to transfer/wages cost. So it would be worse x worse. Well aye, hence my point the Uefa rules by themselves are better and more fair. It’s the PL specific FMV that is far more detremintal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Well aye, hence my point the Uefa rules by themselves are better and more fair. It’s the PL specific FMV that is far more detremintal. Sponsorship is calculated on ‘fair value’. Section 5. https://www.uefa.com/news/0253-0d7f34cc6783-5ebf120a4764-1000--financial-fair-play-all-you-need-to-know/ Edited February 7 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 14 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Sponsorship is calculated on ‘fair value’. Section 5. https://www.uefa.com/news/0253-0d7f34cc6783-5ebf120a4764-1000--financial-fair-play-all-you-need-to-know/ "UEFA's competent bodies" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, madras said: "UEFA's competent bodies" Although that’s from 2015 it’ll be in their new FFP arrangements with City, PSG and now us. It won’t strangle there revenues but will ours. I keep on saying this, governing bodies should organise competitions and not involve themselves in a clubs commercial activities. Edited February 7 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 07/02/2024 at 06:37, TheBrownBottle said: think what swung it was the $1bn paid by KSA, and the end of the BeIN block. That was on the 6th October 2021. On the 7th October 2021 the deal was announced as being back on; it was completed on the 8th October 2021. Yeah I think that’s absolutely what it was. It had nothing to do with Newcastle going to court. Was all just politics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Yeah I think that’s absolutely what it was. It had nothing to do with Newcastle going to court. Was all just politics Yep, the rest was just pantomime. The KSA govt reached out to the UK govt at one point, and the deal went through when they effectively settled with the Qatari govt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 07/02/2024 at 10:37, Wandy said: It's amazing how people still can't see it. The thing dragged on for 18 months and then as soon as the PL's QC had his arse handed to him live on a stream the whole thing was resolved within a fortnight. Piracy my arse. That’s total nonsense as @TheBrownBottle has pointed out literally the day after ksa & qatar reached an agreement over bein & the block the takeover went thru. Staveley & co have since said they were surprised how quickly it started moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 54 minutes ago, gdm said: That’s total nonsense as @TheBrownBottle has pointed out literally the day after ksa & qatar reached an agreement over bein & the block the takeover went thru. Staveley & co have since said they were surprised how quickly it started moving. I'm not disputing that. The point I made was that I believe that PIF offered to sort out the BEIN dispute long before October 2021 but the PL simply put more obstacles in the way. The court case eventually made them back away from those obstacles and allowed it to go through based on paying the compo to BEIN alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Who decides what’s fair value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 14 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Who decides what’s fair value? My wife. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Anyone heard any concrete numbers on ours and Villa's Adidas deals ? Just at the time of announcement we were a Champs league team and they weren't.......I doubt their owner having a 7% ownership of Adidas and being in negotiations would have any bearing on things though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 52 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Who decides what’s fair value? Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 hours ago, madras said: Anyone heard any concrete numbers on ours and Villa's Adidas deals ? Just at the time of announcement we were a Champs league team and they weren't.......I doubt their owner having a 7% ownership of Adidas and being in negotiations would have any bearing on things though. Ours is at least £40m per season. It is said to be worth over £200m over 5 years, which is £40m minimum per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 So it looks like PSG are to build a new stadium. It will be interesting to see how they fund it considering UEFA’s rules, which the Premier League are looking to implement as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 hours ago, madras said: Anyone heard any concrete numbers on ours and Villa's Adidas deals ? Just at the time of announcement we were a Champs league team and they weren't.......I doubt their owner having a 7% ownership of Adidas and being in negotiations would have any bearing on things though. £12m p/a is what I’ve read as Villa’s kit deal. Their Castore deal was £4m p/a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 49 minutes ago, Stifler said: So it looks like PSG are to build a new stadium. It will be interesting to see how they fund it considering UEFA’s rules, which the Premier League are looking to implement as well. I’m sure Al-Khelaifi will do everything above board here… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 12 hours ago, Sima said: I’m sure Al-Khelaifi will do everything above board here… Probably take over from Ceferin in the next election in another totally above board decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Ronson333 said: It was only a matter of time and we can sit back and let Man City do all the dirty work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: If a legal challenge gets rid of FMV I’d be happy and if say Aramco wanted to sponsor stadium naming for £80 million a year they should be allowed to. Fuck the meddling in clubs commercial activities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I read/heard somewhere that Man City will use any legal tool to defeat the PL. Their strategy is combative. That's why they haven't cooperated with the PL in their investigations. They will dig in their heels, not cooperate and take everything to court if needed. I think that's the right approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I read/heard somewhere that Man City will use any legal tool to defeat the PL. Their strategy is combative. That's why they haven't cooperated with the PL in their investigations. They will dig in their heels, not cooperate and take everything to court if needed. I think that's the right approach. It’s the nuclear option for City which I suspected. Hoped they’d use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: It’s the nuclear option for City which I suspected. Hoped they’d use. PL will get absolutely battered in court with this one, only takes one club to bring this up and then it falls down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1755929163767177548?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA hmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1755929163767177548?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA hmm I guess they could now take legal action, the new rules massively restrict us. I notice the vote was 12-6 with 2 clubs abstaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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