Kid Icarus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 It couldn't be any other way, if you get in the CL you need to be hitting 70%. It's the related parties rules that potentially change things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, Adam said: How far does the related party stuff go? Lets say PIF bought Adidas, would our sponsorship deal with them then be limited or scrutinised more? Yup. Scrutinised more, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Why would the “related sponsor” thing relax because of this? Sorry if I’ve missed it and the reasons for it. I just don’t see them changing it. Edited April 29 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Why would the “related sponsor” thing relax because of this? Sorry if I’ve missed it and the reasons for it. I just don’t see them changing it. The idea seems to be that a ceiling has been created which means a team cant just spend a billion quid in a season, so related party rules can be relaxed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Just now, simonsays said: The idea seems to be that a ceiling has been created which means a team cant just spend a billion quid in a season, so related party rules can be relaxed. Ok got it. So it’s just speculation then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Ok got it. So it’s just speculation then? Yep and even then any rule changes to relax it would need 14 votes. Could never see it being changed now it’s implemented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Staying positive as I can’t see the club voting for it if it makes us worse off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Yep and even then any rule changes to relax it would need 14 votes. Could never see it being changed now it’s implemented With multi-club ownership more prevalent than ever, I think it's a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Staying positive as I can’t see the club voting for it if it makes us worse off. Has the club voted against of these measures to change FFP/PSR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Staying positive as I can’t see the club voting for it if it makes us worse off. It wouldn't make us worse off. It'll only make certain clubs slightly worse off. It's pretty meaningless though. Edited April 29 by Shearergol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Staying positive as I can’t see the club voting for it if it makes us worse off. I can sort of see the appeal. Although it doesn't allow us to increase our spending, it theoretically puts a cap on the highest earning clubs so they can't outspend us by that much. The key thing for us going forwards is the related party stuff. That's what's making it so hard to substantially increase our turnover and that's what's limiting what we can spend under the current (and proposed) rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Just now, The Prophet said: With multi-club ownership more prevalent than ever, I think it's a matter of time. I hope you’re right Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Don't Uefa just hit you with fines i.e PSG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Not coming in till 2025/26 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Yep and even then any rule changes to relax it would need 14 votes. Could never see it being changed now it’s implemented No one expected today's vote to gain enough support, but it did... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Scoot said: No one expected today's vote to gain enough support, but it did... I didn’t expect it either, but that’s because I thought it would make more of a difference. The %/turnover halts it. Only thing it would do is to halt the top revenue earners a bit, but not much. Always something I guess… Edited April 29 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Fuck Europe off this year. Spend £250m in the summer. Pull back the season after and see which rules apply. They are making it up as they go along. Clear no one has an idea what to do and any changes could easily be challenged as a restriction of trade, so get in while we can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 27 minutes ago, Abacus said: Which, in turn, gives us a bargaining chip of sorts. Think I read something that these rules on multiples are, magically, exactly about the amount Man City currently overspend compared to the bottom club now. Be funny if an absolutely potless club gets promoted in future, maths fans. I think it's based the money the bottom club gets from the PL, rather than the total revenue of the bottom club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 They really should have had this anchoring thing in place years ago and without the revenue percentage cap. That way all teams could’ve spent the same amount of money, creating more of a level playing field. Obviously you’d want some sort of owner backed assurance tied to it so clubs don’t overspend what they can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 From what I'm reading, at the moment this is something that is a non-event for us directly, but it is in the sense that it hinders the sky 6 and theoretically stops them pulling away further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Press reports suggests we introduced this and lobbied hardest for it. We're up to something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Press reports suggests we introduced this and lobbied hardest for it. We're up to something. All of it is our doing. Said this so many times now. We've been GoT style seed planting and whispering in the background whislt looking compliant and submissive in public. We've torn them inside out. They've lost control of their own product, and will soon be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Press reports suggests we introduced this and lobbied hardest for it. We're up to something. it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Press reports suggests we introduced this and lobbied hardest for it. We're up to something. Do you have links? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) On 26/04/2024 at 18:32, Whitley mag said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/newcastle-united-lead-premier-league-rebel-group-ahead-of-crunch-vote-sources/ @Jack27 There was this, but it had previously been reported by more credible sources. I'm sure posted one in this thread. I'll have a look. Edited April 29 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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