Adam P Posted Wednesday at 10:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 10:58 26 minutes ago, STM said: Alot of what you've said there doesn't make any sense. Are you denying having PSR issues? No, the PSR part of my post was at the last two sentences. Which bit didnt make sense? The crazy made up scenario? My point entirely. To be fair the amount of shite from the press has been confusing, i just dont get the narrative that we panic sold and i dont get the 70m PSR loss figure being bandied around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted Wednesday at 11:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:02 2 minutes ago, Adam P said: No, the PSR part of my post was at the last two sentences. Which bit didnt make sense? The crazy made up scenario? My point entirely. To be fair the amount of shite from the press has been confusing, i just dont get the narrative that we panic sold and i dont get the 70m PSR loss figure being bandied around. Based off what their contacts in the club tell them. No smoke without fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 11:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:03 12 minutes ago, TRon said: I think it's more a case of we didn't really want to sell potential young stars and held off as long as possible, but once it became clear we weren't going to be able to shift the deadweight quick enough, we just tried to get the best price possible for the likes of Minteh and Anderson. If we could have shifted Almiron or Longstaff, we'd probably have sold them as well. My view is that without the sales, we would have been sailing close to the wind. Swiss Ramble said he didnt include CL revenue in his 40m deficit estimate. Probably a few other revenue lines much higher last season too. Wage bill probably higher, so not all positive. PSR deficit based on best publicly availble info right now is likely somewhere around 5 - 20m. If it was 5m (as our net revenue increased by 35m) then it was probably seen as low risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 11:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:04 1 minute ago, Slim said: Based off what their contacts in the club tell them. No smoke without fire. Like the Ben Jacobs story, of course. Gordon definitely wobbling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 11:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:05 6 minutes ago, Adam P said: No, the PSR part of my post was at the last two sentences. Which bit didnt make sense? The crazy made up scenario? My point entirely. To be fair the amount of shite from the press has been confusing, i just dont get the narrative that we panic sold and i dont get the 70m PSR loss figure being bandied around. Which part is crazy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 11:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:07 Just now, STM said: Which part is crazy? My scenario of the the CEO and COO meeting in the corridor and realising they were 2 days away from a points deduction. And your scenario where this was an actual 'strategy' that they panicked about last minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Wednesday at 11:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:08 13 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Technically it’s not the transfer window that is wiped out but rather the loss we made in the year. same end result Difference with the wording is some seem to think we have FFP "paid" for that first window and we haven't. The loss for that year has dropped off but we incur costs of transfers through the life of the contracts given. I don't think the Anderson sale was long in the works. That one was from late-window discussions with other PSR-impacted teams and Forest helped us out. Any sale between the PSR 6 has a massive asterics IMO. Definitely on the fee and with us - we may be lukewarm on some of the players. Few of the players traded between the PSR 6 would go straight into the teams first teams - yet there's £200m odd of transfers there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted Wednesday at 11:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:11 Caulkin did say there was relief mind, which suggests they were a bit worried running up to Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Wednesday at 11:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:18 15 minutes ago, Slim said: Based off what their contacts in the club tell them. No smoke without fire. I'm don't dispute the club talk to them, but why are they putting out what they are? Is it to serve a purpose or does someone just have a big mouth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 11:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:20 13 minutes ago, Adam P said: My scenario of the the CEO and COO meeting in the corridor and realising they were 2 days away from a points deduction. And your scenario where this was an actual 'strategy' that they panicked about last minute. Ah, so the bit that I never said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 12:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:00 10 minutes ago, STM said: Ah, so the bit that I never said. I was referring to the post which starts with this nugget. My guess: 2 days prior to the PSR deadline we started to panic about a potential points deduction... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 12:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:31 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Adam P said: I was referring to the post which starts with this nugget. My guess: 2 days prior to the PSR deadline we started to panic about a potential points deduction... Adam babes, you've made a massive assumption. Think about it Edited Wednesday at 12:31 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 12:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:43 9 minutes ago, STM said: Adam babes, you've made a massive assumption. Think about it In which case soz then. Dont think we were in a panic and dont think we were anywhere near the size of the points reducing deficits being claimed in the press. I could be wrong too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted Wednesday at 12:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:47 3 minutes ago, Adam P said: In which case soz then. Dont think we were in a panic and dont think we were anywhere near the size of the points reducing deficits being claimed in the press. I could be wrong too. Are you the man, the myth, the legend. Youtube famous Adam P? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted Wednesday at 12:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:50 Just now, aussiemag said: Are you the man, the myth, the legend. Youtube famous Adam P? You could park a bicycle in the gap in my front teeth. You can draw your own conclusions from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted Wednesday at 12:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:50 Surely Forrest gave us a dig out with Anderson, it's a heck of a fee when you consider the straits that we were in and there doesn't seem to have been other interested parties as with Minteh. Makes me certain there'll be further dealings between the clubs in this window. It's a welcome change from clubs looking for a premium off us when the transaction is going the other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Wednesday at 12:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:54 1 hour ago, Adam P said: My view is that without the sales, we would have been sailing close to the wind. Swiss Ramble said he didnt include CL revenue in his 40m deficit estimate. Probably a few other revenue lines much higher last season too. Wage bill probably higher, so not all positive. PSR deficit based on best publicly availble info right now is likely somewhere around 5 - 20m. If it was 5m (as our net revenue increased by 35m) then it was probably seen as low risk. We were obviously sailing a bit close to the wind, but there was good reason for it. We were trying to get rid of other players, I don't think we really wanted to let Minteh or Anderson go until there was no choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 12:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:54 9 minutes ago, Adam P said: In which case soz then. Dont think we were in a panic and dont think we were anywhere near the size of the points reducing deficits being claimed in the press. I could be wrong too. So basically I wasn't saying that they hadn't been working on this stuff prior, merely that they had to ramp up efforts and that meant potentially selling a star player. No worries though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted Wednesday at 13:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:02 On 02/07/2024 at 12:28, Slim said: 50m PSR shortfall in the year that *included* UCL money. The last accounts submitted were 22/23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted Wednesday at 14:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:08 Who is this guy freely throwing around accusations on youtube? Language is choice too. Has a go at Elliott Anderson deal and has real issues with Man City and us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Wednesday at 14:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:12 Isn’t Uti short for Urinary Tract Infection? He’s about as pleasant as one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Wednesday at 14:24 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:24 Hasn’t he posted lots of his videos directly here on N-O? When we’ve been linked with someone and the deal’s gone through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted Wednesday at 14:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:42 16 minutes ago, gbandit said: Hasn’t he posted lots of his videos directly here on N-O? When we’ve been linked with someone and the deal’s gone through? First time I watched the scrote was today. He posts accusations not opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Wednesday at 15:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:29 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Hasn’t he posted lots of his videos directly here on N-O? When we’ve been linked with someone and the deal’s gone through? Yeah, a number of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Wednesday at 21:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:59 https://www.themag.co.uk/2024/07/newcastle-united-owners-knew-what-they-were-doing-trust-the-process/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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