Match Atmosphere

[Wallsendmag]

Keep up the great work @TheGuv

 

Such an important topic which could shape the atmosphere at SJP for generations to come.

[TheGuv]

Quite glad they came back with that tbh. Means I could drive that view home. Wouldn’t be surprised if plenty of them just rate it out of 5 and leave it there. I’m sure @Heronand the WF lot in attendance will do the same. 
 

Really hope we can force this change like. Had a good discussion with Heron and the lads last night about bringing back a bit of a weekly pub/March to the stadium again. Bring that away style atmosphere to the ground that @NUFC91has mentioned too.

[NUFC91]

2 hours ago, TheGuv said:

Quite glad they came back with that tbh. Means I could drive that view home. Wouldn’t be surprised if plenty of them just rate it out of 5 and leave it there. I’m sure @Heronand the WF lot in attendance will do the same. 
 

Really hope we can force this change like. Had a good discussion with Heron and the lads last night about bringing back a bit of a weekly pub/March to the stadium again. Bring that away style atmosphere to the ground that @NUFC91has mentioned too.

 

Well done for pushing it mate,  I just wish the club asked every fan and went from there, honestly think 6k in one big area or strawberry and Leazes corners would of been cracking. 

 

Yep maybe it's time to look at a fan group so to speak to actually push this as well.

[Rod]

3 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

I don't think many chucked their tickets in at the first sign of trouble though. For instance, I'd say most of the 10,000 who walked in 2019 did it out of sheer exasperation and desperation to make a difference, even if it meant losing a seat that they probably have had for a long time.

 

It's a lot easier to just click the renewal button on a season ticket, and thus keep your Saturday day out, than it is to walk away from one when you have been a supporter for decades.

 

 

 

For THIRTY years me and the wife were season ticket holders, sitting in the East Stand.  When Rafa walked we walked.  It killed us at the time but we have adjusted and feel we made an impact on the fat parasite selling.

[NUFC91]

Fucking hell reading twitter comments we have somd of the most selfish pricks of a fanbase in the country.

 

"Whats point if it doesnt increase capacity" 

 

"Why not ask fans who will have to move and not people who want to stand"

 

These aren't supporters man..the day we win something (hopefully) who gives a fuck where your season ticket is. Whats hard to understand that we are putting the team first not some prick who wanks over sitting in same seat for 30 years..

[Jonas]

There was many times at SJP where different areas would be singing different songs at the same time or better yet, the same song but slightly out of sync with each other. When your stand finished or reached a pause it was like a couple echoes from the other stands. They were the best atmos.

 

Had a season ticket in the East Stand from 1991 - pre Keegan, pre Premier League, in our worst ever year, being one of those that jacked in at the first sign of trouble.

 

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by Jonas

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Jonas said:

There many was times at SJP where different areas would be singing different songs at the same time or better yet, the same song but slightly out of sync with each other. When your stand finished it was like a couple echoes.

Seemed more authentic and raw than in unison.

 

Had a season ticket in the East Stand from 1991 - pre Keegan, pre Premier League, in our worst ever year, as a jack in at the first sign of trouble type.

 

That was the year we got our season tickets. 1991/92 season, also East Stand (family enclosure). Crowds dipped below 15k a couple of times but even back then you had the Corner and the Scoreboard singing, the Leazes next to the away fans and also the Milburn Stand Leazes wing which always sounded the loudest because of the roof.

 

Looking back we had a totally different type of fanbase than we do now.

[NUFC91]

In a way shame we sell out early rounds of cups as could of asked as many lads who wanted to stand to get together amd see what atmosphere could be like

[AJ9]

I think the problem is the concept of season tickets tbh. Too many ST holders are there for no other reason than the fact they've always been there. It doesn't encourage an atmosphere as the concept (and people) is stale.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, TheGuv said:

This is what you’re dealing with man ^

 

 

 

[Wandy]

2 hours ago, Rod said:

For THIRTY years me and the wife were season ticket holders, sitting in the East Stand.  When Rafa walked we walked.  It killed us at the time but we have adjusted and feel we made an impact on the fat parasite selling.

 

No doubt in my mind that it was at this point when Ashley knew the game was up. When you have to give 10k season tickets away you know the writing is on the wall. And if people like you had not made the sacrifice then Ashley would still be there.

[Kid Icarus]

2 hours ago, NUFC91 said:

Fucking hell reading twitter comments we have somd of the most selfish pricks of a fanbase in the country.

 

"Whats point if it doesnt increase capacity" 

 

"Why not ask fans who will have to move and not people who want to stand"

 

These aren't supporters man..the day we win something (hopefully) who gives a fuck where your season ticket is. Whats hard to understand that we are putting the team first not some prick who wanks over sitting in same seat for 30 years..

Don't make the mistake of thinking Twitter is representative. They're definitely not and you'll drive yourself nuts if you think they are, the 'Twitter fan' is a different breed that's genuinely brain-damaged and isn't unique to us, they're like that across the fanbases.

[jack j]

3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

 

 

And that is why we have zero chance of succeeding with it.

Does he think they're going to make the whole stadium stand up?

[Whitley mag]

Our support has lost its edge it’s as simple as that, compared to other big clubs support we look like mice.

 

We seemed to have lost an older generation who used to go and there’s no groups of younger lads to take their place. Football has changed but a lot of clubs have still retained a hardcore of lads who attend the match in big groups.

 

The Ashley generation of folk just being happy to fill their Saturday afternoon in reign supreme in the majority. They we’re mutes when he was running the club into the ground and mutes at Wembley.

 

They’ll not raise their voices in relation to anything seriously damaging the club, but will boo and moan their tits off when Longstaff gets caught on the ball.

 

Newcastle losing doesn’t spoil their weekend and asking them to move seats to create an atmosphere, you’ve got to be kidding they’ll look at you as if you’re fucking stupid.

 

Some of these cunts had the audacity to have a go at supporters at Wembley for standing and trying to create an atmosphere. 
 

Anyone at Old Trafford for the Spurs semi will remember everyone standing in that big stand and it moving due to the noise, that’s right an all seater stand didn’t stop the crowd that day, contrast that to the pitiful excuse of day trippers who turned up at Wembley to support the club.

 

The current crowd need a shake up and if it means upsetting folk who don’t want to stand fucking tough. Move the cunts and let some passionate fans save the reputation of a once passionate and proud fanbase.

 

[Guybrush]

Didn't level 7 used to have an unofficial singing section at one point?

 

Used to get cheap tickets there and sing with the radgies next to the away fans. Doesn't seem like it's there anymore but it was canny.

[SteV]

 

[Kid Icarus]

Blind doesn’t always mean totally blind anymore.

[SteV]

25 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Blind doesn’t always mean totally blind anymore.

Clearly

[NUFC91]

50 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Our support has lost its edge it’s as simple as that, compared to other big clubs support we look like mice.

 

We seemed to have lost an older generation who used to go and there’s no groups of younger lads to take their place. Football has changed but a lot of clubs have still retained a hardcore of lads who attend the match in big groups.

 

The Ashley generation of folk just being happy to fill their Saturday afternoon in reign supreme in the majority. They we’re mutes when he was running the club into the ground and mutes at Wembley.

 

They’ll not raise their voices in relation to anything seriously damaging the club, but will boo and moan their tits off when Longstaff gets caught on the ball.

 

Newcastle losing doesn’t spoil their weekend and asking them to move seats to create an atmosphere, you’ve got to be kidding they’ll look at you as if you’re fucking stupid.

 

Some of these cunts had the audacity to have a go at supporters at Wembley for standing and trying to create an atmosphere. 
 

Anyone at Old Trafford for the Spurs semi will remember everyone standing in that big stand and it moving due to the noise, that’s right an all seater stand didn’t stop the crowd that day, contrast that to the pitiful excuse of day trippers who turned up at Wembley to support the club.

 

The current crowd need a shake up and if it means upsetting folk who don’t want to stand fucking tough. Move the cunts and let some passionate fans save the reputation of a once passionate and proud fanbase.

 

 

Could'nt say it better. Spiteful fuckers who put their view on match day above good of the team and will moan at any change proposed by the club.

[Wandy]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

Our support has lost its edge it’s as simple as that, compared to other big clubs support we look like mice.

 

We seemed to have lost an older generation who used to go and there’s no groups of younger lads to take their place. Football has changed but a lot of clubs have still retained a hardcore of lads who attend the match in big groups.

 

The Ashley generation of folk just being happy to fill their Saturday afternoon in reign supreme in the majority. They we’re mutes when he was running the club into the ground and mutes at Wembley.

 

They’ll not raise their voices in relation to anything seriously damaging the club, but will boo and moan their tits off when Longstaff gets caught on the ball.

 

Newcastle losing doesn’t spoil their weekend and asking them to move seats to create an atmosphere, you’ve got to be kidding they’ll look at you as if you’re fucking stupid.

 

Some of these cunts had the audacity to have a go at supporters at Wembley for standing and trying to create an atmosphere. 
 

Anyone at Old Trafford for the Spurs semi will remember everyone standing in that big stand and it moving due to the noise, that’s right an all seater stand didn’t stop the crowd that day, contrast that to the pitiful excuse of day trippers who turned up at Wembley to support the club.

 

The current crowd need a shake up and if it means upsetting folk who don’t want to stand fucking tough. Move the cunts and let some passionate fans save the reputation of a once passionate and proud fanbase.

 

[TheGuv]

Howay then. There’s enough of us on here that want to make a difference. Wor Flags have made a difference with just 20 lads. What could we achieve by following suit and trying to bring back the atmosphere properly?

 

I really like @NUFC91’s idea of trying to get things going each week at a pub. I know the WF lot has done things previously from the North Terrace. Perhaps a good starting point to get like minded individuals and get a pub bouncing and work our way down to the ground. Fuck Wonderbar and stuff like that - it plays its role I suppose…I dunno. 

[Kid Icarus]

No reason at all to not improve, but I don't buy this idea that we look rubbish compared to other clubs home support stuff at all. Every single time a list of best home atmospheres comes up on TikTok, YouTube etc from away day support channels you can guarantee that Newcastle or Leeds will be voted 1 or 2 (with the occasional Crystal Palace) and there'll be comments liked in the thousands backing it up from people around the country. The fans making these lists, most have done every stadium in the Premier League, they have no reason to lie.

 

We know how good it can be, so there's the danger of thinking that a bad day compared to our best is bad overall, when it's comparatively very good.

 

Like I say, there's no reason to not improve, we all want the best atmosphere possible, but there's no need to be despondent about it, we're trying to improve from the position of having one of - if not THE - most highly regarded atmospheres in the country.

[cubaricho]

8 hours ago, SteV said:

Clearly

Underrated.

[cubaricho]

6 hours ago, TheGuv said:

Howay then. There’s enough of us on here that want to make a difference. Wor Flags have made a difference with just 20 lads. What could we achieve by following suit and trying to bring back the atmosphere properly?

 

I really like @NUFC91’s idea of trying to get things going each week at a pub. I know the WF lot has done things previously from the North Terrace. Perhaps a good starting point to get like minded individuals and get a pub bouncing and work our way down to the ground. Fuck Wonderbar and stuff like that - it plays its role I suppose…I dunno. 

I don’t want to stop this in its tracks. Butttttt this is what happens with every MLS club and it’s fucking awesome. 

[Wallsendmag]

6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

No reason at all to not improve, but I don't buy this idea that we look rubbish compared to other clubs home support stuff at all. Every single time a list of best home atmospheres comes up on TikTok, YouTube etc from away day support channels you can guarantee that Newcastle or Leeds will be voted 1 or 2 (with the occasional Crystal Palace) and there'll be comments liked in the thousands backing it up from people around the country. The fans making these lists, most have done every stadium in the Premier League, they have no reason to lie.

 

We know how good it can be, so there's the danger of thinking that a bad day compared to our best is bad overall, when it's comparatively very good.

 

Like I say, there's no reason to not improve, we all want the best atmosphere possible, but there's no need to be despondent about it, we're trying to improve from the position of having one of - if not THE - most highly regarded atmospheres in the country.

 

Disagree. Most TicTok'ers, YouTuber's put stuff in their content for "likes", in other words what people want to hear and praising the likes of Newcastle and Leeds is always a guaranteed "win" for them.

 

Speaking as someone who has visited every PL ground (other than Bournemouth and Brentford) I'd say our atmosphere ranks somewhere in the middle these days. In times gone by we were right up at the top. We are nowhere near Leeds who have both ends behind the goals stood and singing more or less non stop. Even Man Utd who get a lot of stick for atmosphere have fans to the right of the away end who are very vocal plus a sort of unofficial singing area of around 6k in the Upper tier of the Streford End who stand/sing. They also have around 20k people who stand every match currently. As a comparison I'd say we have maybe 500 max. We don't have a "home end" like a lot of clubs do where likeminded fans can congregate together. Everyone is just mixed in.

 

I was at the Liverpool match the other week and ended up in L7 right next to the away fans as they were the only seats we could get and our support is completely inaudible from up there.

 

Unfortunately a lot of our fans were unable to access SJP throughout most of the 1990s and we are paying for that now. Most of the people who watch NUFC these days are either 50+ or are kids. There isn't a great deal in between and it's that age group who traditionally make the noise. It's another reason why I think safe standing will be less well supported here than anywhere else.

 

Unless we get a new 70k stadium amd ultimately a blank canvas to work with or at least get another 8/10k seats at SJP which will give them some room to play about with things I don't really see things getting much better. Certainly a small token gesture of 2k or so standing places makes no difference.

 

I'm pleased that the 2 lads off here who went along to the meeting represented us very well and that they are on the same page as me when it comes to this, but they said themselves that the room was largely filled with older people and the facts are that it's those older people who represent the majority of the crowd at SJP these days. Not meaning to generalise here, and of course there are exceptions, but, in the main, older people prefer to sit down than stand and are less inclined to sing and get all radged up! That's just how it is and that is where our problem lies amd unfortunately you can't just fix the demographic of the crowd. That's just the way it is. It's more elderly than others, and more grumpy as well!