Match Atmosphere

[joeyt]

Yeah they were showing other games on the screen for the PSG game too.

 

Thought it was odd that there was a smattering of about 200 or so Dortmund fans in the Milburn Stand. Good job it wasn't a feisty game otherwise it might have caused some bother.

 

I'd be a bit miffed if those 200 or so were at the expense of Newcastle fans who couldn't get a ticket

[Bellis80]

Away teams in europe have always had a section down there.

[LFEE]

37 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Even with the Platinum Club 93/94 was predominantly rocking, maybe even more than 92/93, due to the Leazes changes.

Just think football changed in this country. The sweet spot was the mid 90s before it was too sanitised and with the hooligan elements disappearing.

Its sad but it must be 25years since I accepted this so cant get vexed now.  Every atmosphere in the country is worse than it was and rarely good (excluding idiots on drums and stuff at Palace or Accrington which isn't really atmosphere)

We reap the rewards of that sanitisation and bigger crowds when its comes to having more money than other leagues, even without the various takeovers, atmosphere is the sacrifice.

 

Yeah people can come up with all sorts of possible solutions but none of them will rid the ground of young kids (many wearing headphones for sensory reasons etc) and the ever growing groups of female attendees or whittle out the OAPs or the mobile phone generation playing games etc or the food & drink families or young couples. Rightly so as we try and be a more inclusive and progressive sport. However it’s always going to come at a cost to the atmosphere more often than not. The crowd makeup must be 60% if not more of those I’ve mentioned. The easy passive buy in also during the Ashley years is coming back to bite also. The great atmospheres will always be the exception not the norm going forward. 
 

Maybe a new stadium or reallocation of seats with detailed consultation on the type of fan you are so bigger vocal sections can be created is the last throw of the dice and hope their support is infectious to the rest of the ground but likely not.

 

And I appreciate I’ve made some simplistic generalisations in the groups but by and large it is the issue and it’s not solely affecting football. Gigs these days are a far cry from what they used to be due to those that go and where they position themselves with their entitled behaviour or obsession with mobile technology and not living the moment.

[Fezzle]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

Yeah they were showing other games on the screen for the PSG game too.

 

Thought it was odd that there was a smattering of about 200 or so Dortmund fans in the Milburn Stand. Good job it wasn't a feisty game otherwise it might have caused some bother.

 

I'd be a bit miffed if those 200 or so were at the expense of Newcastle fans who couldn't get a ticket

There's more than 200 of ours in the home end at their place to be fair. Was there any music pre psg? Impossible to tell cos the fans were going full tilt for 45 mins anyway

[timnufc22]

2 hours ago, joeyt said:

Assuming UEFA mandate that no music can be played at half time or at times before the match? Was deathly silent during those periods last night.

 

Sick of hearing the same Status Quo/Madness/The Beatles cycle before every home game mind from the DJ

It sounds tedious dosent it, Hey Jude has been done to death and it’s sung by many others clubs aswell. Mix it up sometimes ffs. I’ve said countless times - the volume needs to be turned down massively both pre match and full time anyway. I can’t think of any other club that I watch on tv who’s PA system comes across as being played anywhere near as loud as ours is. 

[BonesJones]

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by BonesJones

[christ]

I don’t think highly of Chelsea but not surprised by the lack of atmosphere on Mars.

[Vedder]

Another point regarding the atmosphere is that the new owners didn’t do enough/anything to engage the fans who gave up their season ticket to boycott Ashley. These are typically the more militant, noisy fans. 
 

Not that the atmosphere was always brilliant before, I remember complaints even when we doing well under Sir Bobby. 

[NSG]

24 minutes ago, Vedder said:

Another point regarding the atmosphere is that the new owners didn’t do enough/anything to engage the fans who gave up their season ticket to boycott Ashley. These are typically the more militant, noisy fans. 
 

Not that the atmosphere was always brilliant before, I remember complaints even when we doing well under Sir Bobby. 

If anything, they’ve actively made it harder for them to get back in.

[Whitley mag]

Not just in here folk aren’t enjoying the match experience. The club need to make the Gallowgate all standing and clearly badge it as a singing enclosure.

 

Didn’t enjoy anything about the atmosphere last night, apart from a couple of Geordies renditions the whole ground just doesn’t get going anymore, the Blaydon Races used to always carry right around the ground.

 

Really loving this team but a big part of going to the match is the atmosphere for me, can’t say I’m in any rush to go back following last night.

 

https://x.com/paarsons/status/1717483130477494324?s=20

 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

Yep. Ridiculous isn't it?.

 

The Gallowgate is still the "Kop" end but it's nowhere near as good as it was in the 90s.

 

Wasn't the 90s season ticket only? No public sale, no ballots. Maybe last year they should have just filled up with 48k season ticket holders and tough shit to anyone else. No public sale, no ballots, anything.

[Superior Acuña]

28 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Wasn't the 90s season ticket only? No public sale, no ballots. Maybe last year they should have just filled up with 48k season ticket holders and tough shit to anyone else. No public sale, no ballots, anything.

Aye pretty sure it was for a period before the expansion 

[huss9]

4 corners with standing sections in each one... problem solved.

[Wandy]

50 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Wasn't the 90s season ticket only? No public sale, no ballots. Maybe last year they should have just filled up with 48k season ticket holders and tough shit to anyone else. No public sale, no ballots, anything.

 

Yeah it was. It was largely full of fans who had been supporting the club through the grim times of the 80s and early 90s though. So basically an entirely different kind of fan. That's not necessarily a criticism, more an observation.

 

In hindsight, it's absolutely true that SJP should never have been made all ST in the 90s.

[OCOCOL]

1 hour ago, NSG said:

If anything, they’ve actively made it harder for them to get back in.

And the organisation who said they’d campaign for loyalty points turned their back on them - the very people they’re supposed to represent

[Bellis80]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

Not just in here folk aren’t enjoying the match experience. The club need to make the Gallowgate all standing and clearly badge it as a singing enclosure.

 

Didn’t enjoy anything about the atmosphere last night, apart from a couple of Geordies renditions the whole ground just doesn’t get going anymore, the Blaydon Races used to always carry right around the ground.

 

Really loving this team but a big part of going to the match is the atmosphere for me, can’t say I’m in any rush to go back following last night.

 

https://x.com/paarsons/status/1717483130477494324?s=20

 

Was there any indication how many applied to move into the standing bit over the summer?

[Whitley mag]

2 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

Was there any indication how many applied to move into the standing bit over the summer?

No idea on numbers but clearly not all taken by season ticket holders as people have scored tickets in their through ballot.

 

I’d be in favour of this suggestion though as the Leazes End is currently embarrassing in terms of atmosphere, would never sit there again after last night.

 

https://x.com/Nusc2023/status/1717319425626382481?s=20

[OCOCOL]

5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

No idea on numbers but clearly not all taken by season ticket holders as people have scored tickets in their through ballot.

 

I’d be in favour of this suggestion though as the Leazes End is currently embarrassing in terms of atmosphere, would never sit there again after last night.

 

https://x.com/Nusc2023/status/1717319425626382481?s=20

I thought atmosphere in gallowgate was decent my mates in Leazes said it was shit 

[madras]

15 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

No idea on numbers but clearly not all taken by season ticket holders as people have scored tickets in their through ballot.

 

I’d be in favour of this suggestion though as the Leazes End is currently embarrassing in terms of atmosphere, would never sit there again after last night.

 

https://x.com/Nusc2023/status/1717319425626382481?s=20

Never ? So a choice of that or have to watch on the tele ?

[huss9]

seems the dortmund fans thought more of our atmospher than we did.

[Whitley mag]

56 minutes ago, madras said:

Never ? So a choice of that or have to watch on the tele ?

Would take watching on the box over that experience last night, absolutely morgue like in the Leazes End and you can barely hear Strawberry corner from their due to poor acoustics.

 

If the atmosphere’s shit I don’t really feel I’m missing out, as still get to see the game from relative comfort instead.

[TheBrownBottle]

3 hours ago, Vedder said:

Another point regarding the atmosphere is that the new owners didn’t do enough/anything to engage the fans who gave up their season ticket to boycott Ashley. These are typically the more militant, noisy fans. 
 

Not that the atmosphere was always brilliant before, I remember complaints even when we doing well under Sir Bobby. 

The grumbling started from the moment it went all-seater and all-season ticket.  The atmosphere hasn’t been what it was for three decades - for what it’s worth, even on TV it doesn’t sound markedly different to what it has at any point during the PL era (and it’s much better than it was for most of it).  People want to believe it used to be better than it was - when it was actually pretty average to crap for most matches.

 

European nights in particular were always odd - if we weren’t playing someone that the more passive elements acknowledged as a ‘big club’, the atmosphere mirrored most league cup ties.  The fact that so many clearly view PSG as bigger than Dortmund is where the current mob of football supporters and me just don’t see eye to eye.  Dortmund are a much bigger club as far as I’m concerned - no excuse for not being up for that game. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Bring back drinking on the terraces and that Native American war cry I reckon. 

[madras]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The grumbling started from the moment it went all-seater and all-season ticket.  The atmosphere hasn’t been what it was for three decades - for what it’s worth, even on TV it doesn’t sound markedly different to what it has at any point during the PL era (and it’s much better than it was for most of it).  People want to believe it used to be better than it was - when it was actually pretty average to crap for most matches.

 

European nights in particular were always odd - if we weren’t playing someone that the more passive elements acknowledged as a ‘big club’, the atmosphere mirrored most league cup ties.  The fact that so many clearly view PSG as bigger than Dortmund is where the current mob of football supporters and me just don’t see eye to eye.  Dortmund are a much bigger club as far as I’m concerned - no excuse for not being up for that game. 

The grumbling has always been there, helped with rose tinted specs.

[gbandit]

1 hour ago, huss9 said:

4 corners with standing sections in each one... problem solved.

Actually a quality shout