Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[mighty__mag]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

What world are we in here?

 

Sorry I was defending the Barnes signing over perhaps how the Tonali one has turned out. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Pablo said:

Aren’t Brighton in about £300m of debt, whereas we have no debt.

It’s a funny old game.

I was thinking, if I was a Brighton fan that it seems a lot of money on a kid who’s only been decent in Holland. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, mighty__mag said:

 

Sorry I was defending the Barnes signing over perhaps how the Tonali one has turned out. 

I get you, but obvs it looked a great signing until he turned out to be banned.

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, OverThere said:

The real one. Thus far, Tonali has been a disaster of a signing.

No. You are just in a world where everyone and everything is miserable. No more real than optimists. Just a lot more tiresome.

[TBG]

Can't sleep 

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, Upthemags said:

I recognize Im probably in this category as well. But I just dont see the evil in saying yea, this was the right move in our current predicament, but that doesn't mean it was prudent management from the get-go

Agreed. As we stand this is the best scenario.  But this should’ve been managed better from get-go. 
 

19 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I think people at the club are fine with selling him for PSR reasons, because footballing wise he was more likely to go out again on loan next season.

 

Brighton's strategy is not to challenge for a top four position and Champions League place, and does not see them sign players like Isak and Tonali.

 

He might well be a promising teenager, but at this point of the clubs progression, it is more important to continue to build the first team with more experience and ready to play first team contributors, as we are still short there.

 

And so if that means letting a promising teenager go for now, until we get further along in our restructure, then that's just what it is going to have to be for now.

You didn’t answer my question. Do you think the club are buying selling hi for footballing reasons? 
 

Obviously the club are fine with selling him for PSR reasons- that is what they are doing. It’s better than the alternatives. If we had to sell Gordon or take a points deduction the club would also be  fine with that. That doesn’t make it an optimal decision.  

[STM]

3 minutes ago, OverThere said:

The real one. Thus far, Tonali has been a disaster of a signing.

 

What an absolutely brilliant contribution, because until you said that I'd had him pencilled in for the ballon dor this year.

[TBG]

Still can't sleep 

[mighty__mag]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I get you, but obvs it looked a great signing until he turned out to be banned.

 

Yeah and the cheeky fucker knew he was coming here with baggage, we might have avoided such problems if there was honesty from the player and his representatives.

I do believe he may have taken a pay cut so fair play, but addiction is a horrible thing, and nobody can guarantee he won't repeat. We just have to hope it works out. With all this psr bullshit, you really need to get your business spot on though.

 

I mean we nearly fell foul with Paqueta also had those rumours been true. 

 

You'd like to think there's better people involved in the profile checking when signing players.

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed. As we stand this is the best scenario.  But this should’ve been managed better from get-go. 
 

You didn’t answer my question. Do you think the club are buying selling hi for footballing reasons? 
 

Obviously the club are fine with selling him for PSR reasons- that is what they are doing. It’s better than the alternatives. If we had to sell Gordon or take a points deduction the club would also be  fine with that. That doesn’t make it an optimal decision.  

 

I did answer your question.

 

Whether we like it or not PSR is a part of football currently.

 

You can't just separate it out for your convenience as it has implications for how we are able to progress on the pitch going forward.

[Joelinton7]

I assume the “crazy shit flying about” that Luke is talking about refers to the Gordon/Isak stuff. 

[The College Dropout]

11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

Ultimately - I believe the tweet and the tweet quoted. 
 

We are reluctantly selling Minteh. Everything suggests he’s going to be a baller. But if not him we would need to sell a proven baller for us. We’ve done the best we can in a bad situation. 
 

We’ve left it too close for comfort and could’ve managed it better. 
 

BTW folks - unless we get a raft of new sponsors or suddenly find buyers for all the squad players. We’ll almost certainly need to sell next season to just comply. We better hope there’s a market for Joe Willock   

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Ultimately - I believe the tweet and the tweet quoted. 
 

We are reluctantly selling Minteh. Everything suggests he’s going to be a baller. But if not him we would need to sell a proven baller for us. We’ve done the best we can in a bad situation. 
 

We’ve left it too close for comfort and could’ve managed it better. 
 

BTW folks - unless we get a raft of new sponsors or suddenly find buyers for all the squad players. We’ll almost certainly need to sell next season to just comply. We better hope there’s a market for Joe Willock   

One of the purples will go next summer imo.

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I did answer your question.

 

Whether we like it or not PSR is a part of football currently.

 

You can't just separate it out for your convenience as it has implications for how we are able to progress on the pitch going forward.

No you didn’t.  You spoke about PSR. 

 

We might need to sell Bruno next summer for PSR reasons. It won’t be because we don’t need him or think we can do better. 
 

Eddie Howe himself said he didn’t want to sell ASM for football reasons but cos of FFP we needed to sell. Thats easy enough for him, why can’t you say it? 
 

This back and forth is in bad faith from you. Enjoy your evening. 

[STM]

I keep thinking.... wouldn't it be mental if TCD and KaKa were actually the same person arguing with themselves. Would be some proper freaky psycho shit. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, STM said:

I keep thinking.... wouldn't it be mental if TCD and KaKa were actually the same person arguing with themselves. Would be some proper freaky psycho shit. 

Like an m night shamalamadingdong film

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

One of the purples will go next summer imo.

Aye seems that way. Unless PIF suddenly change their approach or we have a constrained summer.  

[STM]

Every year we grow, the more saleable assets we have on our books. Our issue is where we've come from, not where we are going.

[The College Dropout]

7 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

I assume the “crazy shit flying about” that Luke is talking about refers to the Gordon/Isak stuff. 

If not Minteh - it’s surely them, no?

 

think maybe the Elanga stuff was ‘crazy stuff’

[Groundhog63]

1 minute ago, STM said:

I keep thinking.... wouldn't it be mental if TCD and KaKa were actually the same person arguing with themselves. Would be some proper freaky psycho shit. 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

No you didn’t.  You spoke about PSR. 

 

We might need to sell Bruno next summer for PSR reasons. It won’t be because we don’t need him or think we can do better. 
 

Eddie Howe himself said he didn’t want to sell ASM for football reasons but cos of FFP we needed to sell. Thats easy enough for him, why can’t you say it? 
 

This back and forth is in bad faith from you. Enjoy your evening. 

 

Ah, okay. I see what you're getting at now.

 

So I'll put it this way then. If the player was more likely to go out on loan, rather than be a contributor to the first team next season, then would that not be a sale for footballing reasons? Compared to the other saleable assets he's last in the pecking order, as he is not currently a contributor to the first team.

 

These decisions are all being made with the back drop of PSR, and so don't think that can just be swept under the rug as if it is not a factor.

[Joelinton7]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If not Minteh - it’s surely them, no?

 

think maybe the Elanga stuff was ‘crazy stuff’

Possibly DCL also. Honestly it’s been one of the craziest 48 hours I can remember. We better not have to go through this every year. 

[SAK]

My take:

-It’s shit we have to sell a promising player to meet PSR rules but no guarantee he would come good in a stronger league.

- Selling Minteh (who I would have preferred to grow with us and see where he reached) is preferable to losing Gordon, Isak, or Bruno.

-If we were sailing so close why did we not bring in self sponsorship deals for the training ground which has been revamped and is to be expanded (perfect reason for such a deal) after the NFA moved out. Is it possible they want such sponsorship to fall into the next accounting period and need a sale to cover 2023-24? Not sure what the benefits of that are as I understand it looks at a rolling three year period.

-Couldn’t we get £15m each for Wilson and Almiron before selling a promising player? Other teams are selling youth prospects with no game time for £18m?

 

 

Edited June 29, 2024 by SAK

[KaKa]

6 minutes ago, STM said:

I keep thinking.... wouldn't it be mental if TCD and KaKa were actually the same person arguing with themselves. Would be some proper freaky psycho shit. 

 

I'm just trying to understand man 

 

Anyways, perhaps it's gone on too much for today.

 

Really looking forward to seeing how the team shapes up over the summer now and how it looks next season. 

 

Watching Minteh will also be incredibly fascinating.

[Checko]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Eddie Howe himself said he didn’t want to sell ASM for football reasons but cos of FFP we needed to sell. Thats easy enough for him, why can’t you say it? 
 

This back and forth is in bad faith from you. Enjoy your evening. 

As we've seen though with any Eddie Howe injury statement ever, just becaue he says something doesn't make it true. Bear in mind every club says they need to sell because of FFP. It's convenient to tell the player, supporters and other clubs that.

 

'Do you want to buy this player? He's not really good enough for us and a bit injury prone, but go on, he could be great for you.'

 

Or 'Do you want to buy this player? He's fucking great. I wish we didn't have to sell him but, FFP you know?'