BlazeT44 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Menace said: He's just had a kid lads, take it easy "But he didn't have the baby, did he? Unless he's breastfeeding he should be alright!" -- Roy Keane (probably) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 The unpopular opinion is that he was never as good as Bruno, or as people thought he was, and the opinion change is a violent reversion to the mean. Same happened when people overrated Gordon’s ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, Jagten said: The unpopular opinion is that he was never as good as Bruno, or as people thought he was, and the opinion change is a violent reversion to the mean. Same happened when people overrated Gordon’s ability. I disagree, when he was banned we didn't do well at all, he came back and we won a cup and got champions league qualifaction. Its Bruno who's inconsistant and has many off games, Tonali on the whole aside for the last few games is always reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Needs time off. Forgot he became a dad recently. Was worried that I was watching his body language turn to shit in real time but fair play he's probably exhausted too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Newcastle Fan said: I disagree, when he was banned we didn't do well at all, he came back and we won a cup and got champions league qualifaction. It’s Bruno who's inconsistant and has many off games, Tonali on the whole aside for the last few games is always reliable. My point is people were very keen to consider him something that he’s not, and held very strong biases. As those biases fade they have to reconcile with what he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 hours ago, aussiemag said: Hes gone from being one of the top 3 midfielders in the league to one of the worst in the last 4 weeks or so. Did that illness really fuck him up? Granted last few weeks hasn't been. His usual standards but one of the worse in the league? Catch yourself on lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Why do we keep playing him if that illness wrecked him? I know he's been given a game off here and there, but if he's fucked - take him out the side until he's fit. If he's just in poor form, get him on the bench. Squad is fucked if Howe can't stomach playing anyone over a poor Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Adds nothing to the team when we have the ball currently. Either can't get on the ball or mostly gives it away cheaply when he does get it, trying to play first time passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Agree with that. Would have preferred Longstaff in there today. The midfield is a shambles. We don’t know where to play Bruno, Tonali has been cack, Miley has so much work to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jagten said: The unpopular opinion is that he was never as good as Bruno, or as people thought he was, and the opinion change is a violent reversion to the mean. Same happened when people overrated Gordon’s ability. This is just what people post when a player is doing badly. You could literally say it about anyone going through bad form. Tonali is playing badly right now (with the ball) but he's an elite player. Edited December 14, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) Tonali is fucking mint and anyone who cannot see that is a fucking pleb. Capeesh. Edited December 14, 2025 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 26 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: This is just what people post when a player is doing badly. You could literally say it about anyone going through bad form. Tonali is playing badly right now (with the ball) but he's an elite player. That’s a genetic fallacy / motive attribution. You’re arguing about why you think people say it (“bad form takes”), not whether it’s true. I am personally making case for only him and Gordon. I argued extensively at peak Gordon that he was not elite and people got upset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, Jagten said: That’s a genetic fallacy / motive attribution. You’re arguing about why you think people say it (“bad form takes”), not whether it’s true. I am personally making case for only him and Gordon. I argued extensively at peak Gordon that he was not elite and people got upset. Gordon is 100% not elite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 8 hours ago, Heron said: Tonali is fucking mint and anyone who cannot see that is a fucking pleb. Capeesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 8 hours ago, Heron said: Gordon is 100% not elite. But Tonali 100% is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Players go in and out of form. Tonali has been mostly class for the last season and a half, and has been poor for the last 3-4 games. Not everything has to be an overreaction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 (edited) Honestly, how are people questioning Tonali’s ability after a few bad games. He’s been outstanding for us for so long now, genuinely one of the best midfielders we’ve ever had. Something’s clearly not right, him being subbed off in the middle of the derby for Willock would never have happened otherwise. If he’s injured, we need to rest him because keeping flogging him and seeing these kind of performances isn’t doing anybody any good. Edited December 15, 2025 by Vedder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Honestly, like most of the team at the minute,I don't think they are being setup well enough to get the most of their strengths. Eddie needs to figure out the whole setup and approach to how we play. The team doesn't look right and no one is really playing well. When that starts to happen the manager has to change things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Eddie is atleast seeing the signs considering he has been rested for a couple of games lately, but still not fully getting it with him starting both of our last games. Tonali is fucking elite, he has showed it for us and he has showed it for Milan. Most players would have dropped a few levels running 11-12km (including a lot of sprints) every match twice a week for a few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 hour ago, John P said: Players go in and out of form. Tonali has been mostly class for the last season and a half, and has been poor for the last 3-4 games. Not everything has to be an overreaction He’s also been recovering from illness recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 10 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: But Tonali 100% is. He’s an elite role player, but not an elite midfielder overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 9 hours ago, Vedder said: Honestly, how are people questioning Tonali’s ability after a few bad games. He’s been outstanding for us for so long now, genuinely one of the best midfielders we’ve ever had. Something’s clearly not right, him being subbed off in the middle of the derby for Willock would never have happened otherwise. If he’s injured, we need to rest him because keeping flogging him and seeing these kind of performances isn’t doing anybody any good. that tiresome clown True Geordie is calling him a fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: that tiresome clown True Geordie is calling him a fraud. He's an absolute meat head. Tonali is a superb player who's had a handful of poor games this season. Who knows why that is, but to call him a fraud is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Just now, The Prophet said: He's an absolute meat head. Tonali is a superb player who's had a handful of poor games this season. Who knows why that is, but to call him a fraud is laughable. People have utterly shit memories, and made worse by the overwhelming influx of garbage information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Leave him alone. Such a great player. Has a proper footbaling brain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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