Lazarus Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Who's turn is it next? Schar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, The College Dropout said: Twitter ITKs saying Wilson and Trippier moves encouraged by players side. and they’d be wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Lazarus said: Who's turn is it next? Schar? Scharly not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Who's turn is it next? Schar? Any of the other Vermont players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Very much looks like we are going to be busy at the end of this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, STM said: Very much looks like we are going to be busy at the end of this window. Yeah, it’s suddenly getting interesting. Players out likely means players in. I’m all onboard for this tbh - could be an exciting window when nowt would have been anticipated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I wonder if the club are right up against it FFP wise? I remember in thr summer there was speculation that our spending meant we had to qualify for Europe again next season in some capacity. With how things have panned out plus the Joelinton injury we may have to sell to fund transfers to get us into Europe or sell just to be ffp compliant in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, STM said: Very much looks like we are going to be busy at the end of this window. Not unless clubs start offering decent money, quite unlikely imo since everyone is hindered by FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Player trading is a part of football and I wouldn’t hate getting rid of two players, despite how good they’ve been for us, in their 30s if it meant keeping Bruno, Botman & Isak around for longer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Not unless clubs start offering decent money, quite unlikely imo since everyone is hindered by FFP. Wilson and Tripps off the books helps that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: Wilson and Tripps off the books helps that. Loan deals don’t though surely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Any of the other Vermont players. Wonder who the Maine man is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I wonder if the club are right up against it FFP wise? I remember in thr summer there was speculation that our spending meant we had to qualify for Europe again next season in some capacity. With how things have panned out plus the Joelinton injury we may have to sell to fund transfers to get us into Europe or sell just to be ffp compliant in any case. This is a good point, but Id really like to think that management would not take a risk as silly as we must qualify for Europe again to be FFP compliant. They don’t strike me as incompetent, but we defo stretched our limits as far as we could. Edited January 20 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I wonder if the club are right up against it FFP wise? I remember in thr summer there was speculation that our spending meant we had to qualify for Europe again next season in some capacity. With how things have panned out plus the Joelinton injury we may have to sell to fund transfers to get us into Europe or sell just to be ffp compliant in any case. We definitely are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Nine said: This is a good point, but Id really like to think that management would not take a risk as silly as we must qualify for Europe again to be FFP compliant. They don’t strike me as incompetent, but we defo stretched our limits as far as we could. We should’ve had a squad good enough to qualify for the conference league like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: We should’ve had a squad good enough to qualify for the conference league like. On paper maybe, but this is football and our management know enough to know that success is not linear and things can change quickly. I just cannot see them gambling like that, as it happened we were an injury crisis away from it being a big ask. We just don’t move that short term, no evidence of that attitude at all. Everything is geared towards a steady build with long term success. Edited January 20 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I dont think there is any movement until after the Fulham game. In that we probably get another player injured "out for weeks", and then we realize only 3-4 days left of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I think Sky are realizing viewership is down and have just turned a few screws here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I don’t hate the idea of using a partially lost season to see if we can get above market fees for aging players. But it is a lot of goals + assists to replace by August. The pressure would be on to find the right mix of players to push us forward. Loans make no sense to me unless we’re seriously close to the limit. That could only be put down to some questionable planning. If we’re not getting decent fees I’d prefer to keep them for a Europe push / FA Cup run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Yep, it’s disappointing that Tripps wants out but he’s helped raise the profile of the club. We need some leaders to step into that void because his influence is massive on the pitch. If Wilson leaves I wouldn’t be massively disappointed, he’s injury prone and misses as much as he plays. Needs a run of games to get sharp too which is hard when you have someone like Isak playing. As Eales mentioned, selling someone for 50 million opens up a chance where you could spend 50m on 4 or 5 different players so there could well be a bit of a spree at the end of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 16 minutes ago, TRC said: I think Sky are realizing viewership is down and have just turned a few screws here. Apparently the two SSN Transfer numptys have been getting pelters on social media for the boring transfer window, over the years Sky have made both deadline days box office, this one has been awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 40 minutes ago, Nine said: On paper maybe, but this is football and our management know enough to know that success is not linear and things can change quickly. I just cannot see them gambling like that, as it happened we were an injury crisis away from it being a big ask. We just don’t move that short term, no evidence of that attitude at all. Everything is geared towards a steady build with long term success. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. If we have a squad good enough for 7th on paper, why wouldn’t they gamble on finishing 7th? That’s still a regression - just a reasonable one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, The College Dropout said: What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. If we have a squad good enough for 7th on paper, why wouldn’t they gamble on finishing 7th? That’s still a regression - just a reasonable one. Because they have the sense to not gamble our financial restrictions in a sport where success rarely moves linearly, especially having just qualified for Europe once in the last 10 years. These guys are seriously invested long term, not some chancers that risk point deductions for short term gain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 19 minutes ago, Nine said: Because they have the sense to not gamble our financial restrictions in a sport where success rarely moves linearly, especially having just qualified for Europe once in the last 10 years. These guys are seriously invested long term, not some chancers that risk point deductions for short term gain. Linear is a straight line. Finishing 4th then 7th isn’t linear success. It’s a regression. Without that investment we don’t give Howe a fair chance at succeeding. They are not risking a points deduction. If we don’t get Europe, then we sell players to balance the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Linear is a straight line. Finishing 4th then 7th isn’t linear success. It’s a regression. Without that investment we don’t give Howe a fair chance at succeeding. They are not risking a points deduction. If we don’t get Europe, then we sell players to balance the books. I’d say finishing in any European spot in back to back seasons is pretty linear success, considering 4 windows ago we were on the edge of relegation.. you need to zoom out and see the bigger picture here. The point remains there is absolutely no guarantee that you finish top 7 with our current squad and as has been shown - an increased schedule, injuries and lack of depth can derail your season. They would have calculated the risks in far more detail than is available to the likes of us, and I just can’t see that this management would play it that way. That’s just a mad assumption, gambling on bringing in funds during the winter window to balance the books just doesn’t make sense. I know this is cliche and I hate saying it, but I can’t help but feel you are making this out to be far more football managery than it needs to be. Sorry like Edited January 20 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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