Thumbheed Posted Sunday at 08:36 Share Posted Sunday at 08:36 The outlay for the below 4 is potentially less than 20m and significantly improves our squad. I'm not sure how you can look at that list and the prices involved and say it's nothing but incredible business. Trafford Kilman Kelly DCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Sunday at 08:43 Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 6 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: The outlay for the below 4 is potentially less than 20m and significantly improves our squad. I'm not sure how you can look at that list and the prices involved and say it's nothing but incredible business. Trafford Kilman Kelly DCL How have you come to a figure of below £20 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Sunday at 08:51 Share Posted Sunday at 08:51 (edited) 20 hours ago, Paulinho said: In the last three seasons: - Calvert-Lewin has made 67 league appearances out of a possible 114. - Wilson has made 69 league appearances out of a possible 114. And a chunk of those Wilson absences are a product of him playing second fiddle to Isak, whereas basically all of Calvert-Lewins’ are through injury. I said this yesterday, thanks for fact checking it, You'd just stick with Wilson, he's likely to play as many games or more, score more, and knows the coach, system, and teammates etc inside out. I'd add to the above, with DCL you have no resale value at the end, it's more of the same, saddled with average players like we are currently at the fag end of their careers, and nobody to buy them. Bringing back Adam Armstrong makes more sense, in exchange for Ryan Fraser. Edited Sunday at 08:51 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Sunday at 08:52 Share Posted Sunday at 08:52 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: And scored how many? You do realise we aren't signing the Everton playing squad and coaching staff along with him right? Once again I remember all the quotes stating how few goals both Isak and Gordon had scored the season before joining us. You sign a player for their attributes and what they will add to your team and style of play, and how they will perform in your setup. Edited Sunday at 08:55 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Sunday at 08:54 Share Posted Sunday at 08:54 19 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: And scored how many? 4,6,13,16,5,2,7. Seems like he done quite well when he had a decent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 08:55 Share Posted Sunday at 08:55 11 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: How have you come to a figure of below £20 million? Think he means outlay now, as in the weird FFP world (i.e, spend is split over 4/5 years). I'm guessing that's the case anyway, otherwise that's some wild maths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Sunday at 08:59 Share Posted Sunday at 08:59 (edited) Looking at his injury history, the major ones were a knee injury and a broken toe, suggesting unlucky rather than muscular (he's missed 26 days according to transfer mkt) which is more usually an "injury Prone" issue. Edited Sunday at 08:59 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 11:13 Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 This is a more exciting rumour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigen Posted Sunday at 11:16 Share Posted Sunday at 11:16 Everton wants around £37m for Dominic-Calvert Lewin. What a robbery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted Sunday at 11:18 Share Posted Sunday at 11:18 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: How have you come to a figure of below £20 million? Per year over 5 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted Sunday at 12:03 Share Posted Sunday at 12:03 3 hours ago, BennyBlanco said: Is this transfer moving us forward as a squad? exactly. I'm not sure which side of the argument you are taking. I think the answer is yes - moving on near 33 year old Wilson and bringing in 27 year old DCL is a move forward, especially as he offers us a very different striker option to Isak when needed. I'm sure some would.take the opposite position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Sunday at 12:12 Share Posted Sunday at 12:12 52 minutes ago, jigen said: Everton wants around £37m for Dominic-Calvert Lewin. What a robbery. Just a starting point I'd imagine. They know no one is paying that for him. I even remember seeing an article a couple of months ago stating how he'd be available this summer for a "cut price of £25M". Bearing in mind he was being looked at by Arsenal and Man Utd 2 years ago and they were told £75M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted Sunday at 12:17 Share Posted Sunday at 12:17 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: This is a more exciting rumour Whoever said put an I on the end of kilman is spot on here mind cos lots will want him instead despite not a great difference in quality. Another left sided CB isn't he? Not that I don't rate him like would be a good signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 12:20 Share Posted Sunday at 12:20 1 minute ago, Fezzle said: Whoever said put an I on the end of kilman is spot on here mind cos lots will want him instead despite not a great difference in quality. Another left sided CB isn't he? Not that I don't rate him like would be a good signing. He’s right footed, plays mainly RCB I think. A lot younger so I would prefer him over Kilman (who I do rate). Just think this one would make more sense for what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Sunday at 12:22 Share Posted Sunday at 12:22 2 minutes ago, Fezzle said: Whoever said put an I on the end of kilman is spot on here mind cos lots will want him instead despite not a great difference in quality. Another left sided CB isn't he? Not that I don't rate him like would be a good signing. He has played both sides. He isn't predominantly one or the other BUT he is right footed so you'd assumed hed be a Schar replacement. Has played very occasionally as LB and RB. Botman - Tomori as a partnership would be as good as anyone could hope for without being in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Sunday at 12:25 Share Posted Sunday at 12:25 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: He’s right footed, plays mainly RCB I think. A lot younger so I would prefer him over Kilman (who I do rate). Just think this one would make more sense for what we need. Tomori? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 12:27 Share Posted Sunday at 12:27 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Tomori? Aye, didn’t realise Kilman was only 27, thought he was 29/30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted Sunday at 12:28 Share Posted Sunday at 12:28 Played on the left every time I saw him although thinking back was next to that bairn so understandable really. Certainly wouldn't be upset either way like. Good strong CB and Brexit Eddie will be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Sunday at 12:29 Share Posted Sunday at 12:29 8 minutes ago, Fezzle said: Whoever said put an I on the end of kilman is spot on here mind cos lots will want him instead despite not a great difference in quality. Another left sided CB isn't he? Not that I don't rate him like would be a good signing. Aye it was me. Although admittedly I'd prefer Tomori, I reckon he's got a few more air miles on him for his age. Also, if we signed tomori, the anti-anglo brigade wouldn't make a peep.... all because we would be signing him from Milan. Both Kilman and Tomori are good defenders and it's no surprise that we are looking at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 12:30 Share Posted Sunday at 12:30 Looks like West Ham are going back with another bid for Kilman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted Sunday at 12:32 Share Posted Sunday at 12:32 1 minute ago, STM said: Aye it was me. Although admittedly I'd prefer Tomori, I reckon he's got a few more air miles on him for his age. Also, if we signed tomori, the anti-anglo brigade wouldn't make a peep.... all because we would be signing him from Milan. Both Kilman and Tomori are good defenders and it's no surprise that we are looking at them. Ah definitely, both would be good signings. Like you say tomori probably suits better, especially at around 40 if possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Sunday at 12:47 Share Posted Sunday at 12:47 4 hours ago, Matt1892 said: How have you come to a figure of below £20 million? Aye, fair point. Been a bit optimistic with those costings but whichever way you look at either as real term costs offset by players going the other way or in terms of FFP, it's still fantastic business imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Sunday at 13:40 Share Posted Sunday at 13:40 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Looks like West Ham are going back with another bid for Kilman. As someone said in his thread, it felt like Wolves released the news about our bid to John Percy so West Ham upped their bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhere Man Posted Sunday at 16:23 Share Posted Sunday at 16:23 Since the takeover.. ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Sunday at 16:28 Share Posted Sunday at 16:28 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Looks like West Ham are going back with another bid for Kilman. Almost like our (alleged) interest smoked it out… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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