madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, et tu brute said: That's employment law, nothing to do with competition law. The salary cap has obviously been agreed with unions. No the Premier League brought in a rule not a law. That rule has to match up with what is actually in British law. Man City have taken a case to state this is not the case. You seem to be getting confused that the Premier League rules are law and they most certainly are not. That's why it's being challenged And why have so many other sports got salary caps etc, surely business law would say that's illegal, and the company (club) can pay whatever they like infact the whole PSR, FMV etc situation is all illegal. I'm no expert on business law but I reckon theres more to it than ensuring any business can spend what it wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, The Prophet said: Not surprised he's saying that, he is totally anti Newcastle and often has negative input about us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Yeah can’t see Ratcliffe wanting to do business with us now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I don't mind even hearing news that we have sold the likes of Fraser and Hayden but this radio silence is annoying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, madras said: And why have so many other sports got salary caps etc, surely business law would say that's illegal, and the company (club) can pay whatever they like infact the whole PSR, FMV etc situation is all illegal. I'm no expert on business law but I reckon theres more to it than ensuring any business can spend what it wants. The PL tried to cap the fees of agents……..it went to Court and the PL lost, there was also a similar ruling in a court in Dortmund. FIFA, UEFA and the PL had to halt the rule changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, madras said: And why have so many other sports got salary caps etc, surely business law would say that's illegal, and the company (club) can pay whatever they like infact the whole PSR, FMV etc situation is all illegal. I'm no expert on business law but I reckon theres more to it than ensuring any business can spend what it wants. It's obviously been agreed with the unions that's why. As for your second point in every single industry, there are global individual businesses who are allowed to invest into their business as they seem fit and as a result are leaders in their individual market. It's always been that way and that won't change. Let's just see what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, NSG said: Yeah can’t see Ratcliffe wanting to do business with us now Seems like a non-starter based on this alone. It seems TalkSport, Bailey and Nickson all have a similar source, they all tend to break at a similar time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: It's obviously been agreed with the unions that's why. As for your second point in every single industry, there are global individual businesses who are allowed to invest into their business as they seem fit and as a result are leaders in their individual market. It's always been that way and that won't change. Let's just see what happens An agreement with the unions can circumvent law ? The clubs voted to pass these rules "tyranny of the majority" but an agreement nonetheless ? There are many areas in which business law works differently with sports clubs and leagues, so as you say, let's wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 We were due a big transfer announcement today but the Crowdstike issue has scuppered it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, madras said: An agreement with the unions can circumvent law ? The clubs voted to pass these rules "tyranny of the majority" but an agreement nonetheless ? There are many areas in which business law works differently with sports clubs and leagues, so as you say, let's wait and see. If it's with the agreement with the players then I presume yes. Again these are rules not laws and that's the point what's not getting through to you. This is the reason City are challenging, because they are stating the 'rules' go against what is in the 'law'. Any rule must be inline with what is in law and that's why the case went ahead Edited July 19 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Seems like a non-starter based on this alone. It seems TalkSport, Bailey and Nickson all have a similar source, they all tend to break at a similar time. Surely preventing us but allowing West Ham and Juve on identical terms would be the very definition of related party and throw their separation for uefa competitions in the bin? Sure Ratface will happily jeopardise all that on our account Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, et tu brute said: If it's with the agreement with the players then I presume yes. Again these are rules not laws and that's the point what's not getting through to you. This is the reason City are challenging, because they are stating the 'rules' go against what is in the 'law'. Any rule must be inline with what is in law and that's why the case went ahead That must mean PSR is against business law as well. Makes you wonder why it's not been challenged ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 32 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Apparently really wanted Juventus and so was holding out for that over West Ham. Will depend on whether we can put across a more convincing pitch that sways him from Juventus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, madras said: That must mean PSR is against business law as well. Makes you wonder why it's not been challenged ? Yet that will be coming also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, KaKa said: Apparently really wanted Juventus and so was holding out for that over West Ham. Will depend on whether we can put across a more convincing pitch that sways him from Juventus. Our black and white stripes look better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, madras said: That must mean PSR is against business law as well. Makes you wonder why it's not been challenged ? It probably is, it’s anti competitive, the ruling on capping agents fees was on the basis such a rule was anti competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, et tu brute said: Yet that will be coming also. We'll see. I honestly think the reason we haven't already is because we know we'd lose. PIF didn't give a fuck about turning the golf world upside down so I don't buy the being nice to gain favour BS. It will always be tinkered with but it won't be brought down until there's a ESL which I'm no fan of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Was hoping Todibo links would emerge, he just makes too much sense. Would hate if West Ham pulled it off. Obviously the Ratcliffe + Juventus factors still make it difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, madras said: We'll see. I honestly think the reason we haven't already is because we know we'd lose. PIF didn't give a fuck about turning the golf world upside down so I don't buy the being nice to gain favour BS. It will always be tinkered with but it won't be brought down until there's a ESL which I'm no fan of. As you said we'll see, I predict a domino effect occurring. PIF are letting city fight this case (I'm quite sure they have worked with City) on this. Back to transfers now, which I have no interest in on this thread, as it's just full of bullshit rumours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 minutes ago, KaKa said: Apparently really wanted Juventus and so was holding out for that over West Ham. Will depend on whether we can put across a more convincing pitch that sways him from Juventus. Just need to point out that Newcastle is closer to the south of France than wherever the hell Juventus actually is and I'm sure we'll get out man, who we're probably not actually looking to sign anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Checko said: Just need to point out that Newcastle is closer to the south of France than wherever the hell Juventus actually is and I'm sure we'll get out man, who we're probably not actually looking to sign anyway. To get from Nice to Turin you barely need to scroll out on a map. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigen Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Todibo is a top rcb. And he is fast, perfect to play alongside Botman. Finally you are linked with a player abroad and with the right characteristics for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, STM said: To get from Nice to Turin you barely need to scroll out on a map. Rob Lee reference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Checko said: Just need to point out that Newcastle is closer to the south of France than wherever the hell Juventus actually is and I'm sure we'll get out man, who we're probably not actually looking to sign anyway. Not really…..look at a map👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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