tarie4 Posted Friday at 09:35 Share Posted Friday at 09:35 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: No underestimation from me - I've been scratching my head as to why it has taken so long to get so many of the obvious low-hanging sponsorship fruit through the door - training ground and kit in particular. The problem is that we're not Man Utd - not even close in terms of worldwide recognition or reach - so we won't attract the same size or number of deals, and the biggest deals are already done (kit, kit sponsors) - so what would the actual value be of all those additional sponsors you mention? 5m? 7m? 10m maybe? It isn't going to be earth-shattering. And we're not in Europe - which would of course have an impact - so you've raised an issue not a strength. We certainly are not Manchester United, and we may not be able to attract DHL as a sponsor. However, you are missing the point. Our ownership group has over 100 different companies in various sectors worldwide, so attracting sponsors will not be a problem. The challenge lies in the value of the deals. From a business perspective, given the current rules, it is not advisable to announce all sponsors at once, even the smaller ones. Instead, we should gradually introduce them while the team improves on the pitch, thus increasing our brand value. For example, if we secure a training kit sponsor for 7 to 10 million (half of what Manchester United receives), which is approved by the Premier League, we can then negotiate better deals with Sela and Noon. I trust that our capable management team knows what they are doing. They have already increased the club's revenues by 66% and plan to grow them further within the existing regulations. They mentioned that it was a long-term plan from the moment they entered. They are patient, and I believe we, as fans, should also exercise patience. Within the existing regulations, it may be challenging to match Manchester United's revenue in the near future. However, in my opinion, if we can reach approximately 400 million (Arsenal's revenue was 464 million in 2023), we would be in a comfortable position to compete. Based on our current trajectory, I believe this could be achievable within the next two years (2025 and 2026). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Friday at 09:39 Share Posted Friday at 09:39 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tarie4 said: We certainly are not Manchester United, and we may not be able to attract DHL as a sponsor. However, you are missing the point. Our ownership group has over 100 different companies in various sectors worldwide, so attracting sponsors will not be a problem. The challenge lies in the value of the deals. From a business perspective, given the current rules, it is not advisable to announce all sponsors at once, even the smaller ones. Instead, we should gradually introduce them while the team improves on the pitch, thus increasing our brand value. For example, if we secure a training kit sponsor for 7 to 10 million (half of what Manchester United receives), which is approved by the Premier League, we can then negotiate better deals with Sela and Noon. I trust that our capable management team knows what they are doing. They have already increased the club's revenues by 66% and plan to grow them further within the existing regulations. They mentioned that it was a long-term plan from the moment they entered. They are patient, and I believe we, as fans, should also exercise patience. Within the existing regulations, it may be challenging to match Manchester United's revenue in the near future. However, in my opinion, if we can reach approximately 400 million (Arsenal's revenue was 464 million in 2023), we would be in a comfortable position to compete. Based on our current trajectory, I believe this could be achievable within the next two years (2025 and 2026). You do realise that any sponsorship from any PIF related sector or business would likely fall foul of the new APT rules the PL are bringing in and that City have just challenged? Edited Friday at 09:41 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted Friday at 09:41 Share Posted Friday at 09:41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Friday at 09:42 Share Posted Friday at 09:42 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: You do realise that any sponsorship from any PIF related sector or business would likely fall foul of the ne APT rules the PL are bringing in and that City have just challenged? Even if it were deemed FMV ? (See Noon) Edited Friday at 09:44 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Friday at 09:46 Share Posted Friday at 09:46 2 minutes ago, madras said: Even if it were deemed FMV ? That is something that would have to be tested I would think and given the more onerous nature of the new APT rules that still haven’t been implemented yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Friday at 09:50 Share Posted Friday at 09:50 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: That is something that would have to be tested I would think and given the more onerous nature of the new APT rules that still haven’t been implemented yet. Surely there are enough deals out there already to use as precedent ? Why dont we have a pillow partner yet ? A Saudi tyre partner like Man Utds Thai one ? I do think we are awaiting the outcome of the Man City case but we should be ready with deals whichever way it goes. Edited Friday at 09:50 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Friday at 09:54 Share Posted Friday at 09:54 (edited) 5 minutes ago, madras said: Surely there are enough deals out there already to use as precedent ? Why dont we have a pillow partner yet ? A Saudi tyre partner like Man Utds Thai one ? I do think we are awaiting the outcome if tge Man City case but we should be ready with deals whichever way it goes. I’m sure we’re ready with deals, I don’t think Peter Silverstone has been sitting around on his arse doing nothing. Sponsorship deals can be done anytime……well until the PL introduces a ‘Sponsorship Window’ to hinder our progress. FMV,ATP didn’t exist until our takeover. Edited Friday at 09:55 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Friday at 10:24 Share Posted Friday at 10:24 Think we'll get sponsorships by virtue of association with PIF alone tbh. Loads of companies will be looking at a gateway into KSA given the opportunity to do so, we'l be the vehicle for that I'd my guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Friday at 10:28 Share Posted Friday at 10:28 Thought we might of had most of our business done now we are in preseason. Hopefully we have a few lined up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted Friday at 10:35 Share Posted Friday at 10:35 (edited) 24 minutes ago, andycap said: Thought we might of had most of our business done now we are in preseason. Hopefully we have a few lined up. Even if we do we're unlikely to see them in the first team for a while. It would be a crying shame to start another season with the same shit right wing options but that looks like the reality Edited Friday at 10:53 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Friday at 10:41 Share Posted Friday at 10:41 (edited) At worst we could play Gordon on the right and Barnes on the left. It isn’t that bad. CB is our top priority, no doubt Edited Friday at 10:41 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted Friday at 10:50 Share Posted Friday at 10:50 8 minutes ago, Zero said: At worst we could play Gordon on the right and Barnes on the left. It isn’t that bad. CB is our top priority, no doubt We can also play Schar & Kelly or Burn which isn't bad either. I'd still make right sided forward our most important signing as I don't want our player of the season last year having to play out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Friday at 10:55 Share Posted Friday at 10:55 Yes, if you're telling me it's RW or CB, I'll take RW. It'll be a game changer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 11:09 Share Posted Friday at 11:09 According to Waugh we'll assess our new Greek keeper before deciding whether to move for another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted Friday at 11:10 Share Posted Friday at 11:10 you mean he wasn’t scouted, surely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Friday at 11:12 Share Posted Friday at 11:12 We stacking up on keepers for spare parts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted Friday at 11:17 Share Posted Friday at 11:17 Apropos of nothing, I woke up this morning with a feeling we're chasing Kubo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Friday at 11:25 Share Posted Friday at 11:25 43 minutes ago, Zero said: At worst we could play Gordon on the right and Barnes on the left. It isn’t that bad. CB is our top priority, no doubt It's bloody good, nevermind not bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted Friday at 11:26 Share Posted Friday at 11:26 4 minutes ago, Lotus said: Apropos of nothing, I woke up this morning with a feeling we're chasing Kubo. Need this confirmed by Mouth of the Toon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted Friday at 11:56 Share Posted Friday at 11:56 Is this the lee bowyer summer all over again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Friday at 11:58 Share Posted Friday at 11:58 32 minutes ago, Checko said: Need this confirmed by Mouth of the Toon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted Friday at 12:30 Share Posted Friday at 12:30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Friday at 12:56 Share Posted Friday at 12:56 2 hours ago, Zero said: At worst we could play Gordon on the right and Barnes on the left. It isn’t that bad. CB is our top priority, no doubt Not what you want to be reading when you first open up the Transfer rumours thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Friday at 13:18 Share Posted Friday at 13:18 2 hours ago, 80 said: Yes, if you're telling me it's RW or CB, I'll take RW. It'll be a game changer. Same, we need a CB but the effect on the team wouldn’t be so dramatic. A top quality RW and we’re really cooking. We’d be ruining teams so hard we could carry a bit of CB weakness. Anyway, we’ll get both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 13:23 Share Posted Friday at 13:23 Article in The Article listing every clubs best PL transfer window. Ours is down as January 2022. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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