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From the noises coming out of the club we were willing do a deal with Almiron but he didn't want to move to Saudi, so I'd class him as a hanger on rather than Eddie wanting to keep him, although I'm sure he was happy enough to have him available next season, he never lets you down effort wise.

 

But obviously due to not being able to shift players in January we've ended up selling Anderson and Minteh instead. Not the worst deals, but I'd far rather have shifted Miggy, Wilson or Trippier first.

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1 hour ago, sushimonster85 said:

 

This is true of pretty much every player not currently in that 'elite 100m+' tier. Botman was seen as slow, Isak not prolific enough, Gordon there was more negative than positive. 

That is true, but you have better/worse feeling about some players regardless. 

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I think why people are starting to worry a bit me included, is that Edwardo likes a lot of time to get them upto speed before featuring. 

So the later we bring them in the less chance we will see them playing. 

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39 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Sorry why is that a fact? 
 

That suggests the best deals to be had in the window are at the very end? That goes directly against common thought. 
 

Clubs don’t need PSR sales in August. What you do get is clubs with players to loan. Quality players are usually signed at a premium towards the end of a window. Or there’s deadwood available. 
 

Im sorry. Judicious clubs do their work early.  
 

We lost half our leadership team in July and hired a new point man for transfers who needs to assess everything about the club which is taking time. That’s the most logical reason for moving slowly in the market.  And that we may need to shift more players to ensure we can afford the players we want come next June. 

The suggestion, as I meant it, is that unfortunately our moves in the market require an exceeding level of caution and forethought - much more, in fact, than other clubs need to exercise. (Clubs against whom we seem to be measuring our conduct this transfer window.) It's easy to point at ManU, who might as well have an endless stream of revenue to re-invest, and feel sorry for ourselves because we aren't operating with a similarly light trigger finger.

 

We're on the same page that the club/Ashworth mishandled operations and weren't prepared for the reality of PSR. But in our current scenario, where we have 10 pounds to spend, and the other giant clubs have 200 pounds to spend, then yes, I think we are, by nature, last-movers in this market. There will be plenty of clubs forced to lower their asking prices this summer as time goes on for talent they want (need) to dispose of. Not in all instances to be sure.

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14 minutes ago, simonsays said:

are people genuinely concerned about our perceived lack of activity, or is it just that the absence of any solid rumours means that there isnt much to talk about so everyone starts sniping at each other?

Your guess is as good as mine, but not everyone is equally comfortable with uncertainty and it is easy to get stressed (perhaps unduly) given relative radio silence; and obvious impact of injuries last season. Probably best to save angst until window closes (36 days) and/if we are facing another three months with too few options. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, andycap said:

I think why people are starting to worry a bit me included, is that Edwardo likes a lot of time to get them upto speed before featuring. 

So the later we bring them in the less chance we will see them playing. 

 

I think we're basically past that time already with the possible exception of a star RW, so people should mentally prepare for our first three games to mostly feature players who are already here.

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1 hour ago, Holmesy said:

The most frustrating thing in all of this is the noise coming out of the club that there has been a reset staff-wise, hence the delay in signings.

If that's true, it's absolutely wank planning! 

 

Hiring a highly regarded DoF is absolutely wank planning? :lol:

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Just now, Pata said:

 

Hiring a highly regarded DoF is absolutely wank planning? :lol:

Yes mate, that's exactly what I said. We're wank at planning because we hired a highly regarded DoF. Word for word!

 

Can we put some sort of mandatory fucking IQ test in place to join this board FFS?! 

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15 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Your guess is as good as mine, but not everyone is equally comfortable with uncertainty and it is easy to get stressed (perhaps unduly) given relative radio silence; and obvious impact of injuries last season. Probably best to save angst until window closes (36 days) and/if we are facing another three months with too few options.

 

With Botman and Lacelles still out long-term, Miley missing start of season, Wilson possibly missing start of season, Willock made of glass, and if the Chronic is to be believed, Longstaff still struggling and a few other not yet in proper training, there's going to be an obvious impact next season too. Even without Europe, we could be stretched to breaking point again if we do well the cups. We need 3 high quality players minimum.

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1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Yes mate, that's exactly what I said. We're wank at planning because we hired a highly regarded DoF. Word for word!

 

Can we put some sort of mandatory fucking IQ test in place to join this board FFS?! 

 

WTF did you mean then? Please explain.

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1 minute ago, Turnbull2000 said:

 

With Botman and Lacelles still out long-term, Miley missing start of season, Wilson possibly missing start of season, Willock made of glass, and if the Chronic is to be believed, Longstaff still struggling and a few other not yet in proper training, there's going to be an obvious impact next season too. Even without Europe, we could be stretched to breaking point again if we do well the cups. We need 3 high quality players minimum.

Yep. 36 days. 

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1 minute ago, Pata said:

 

WTF did you mean then? Please explain.

I assume he means that we knew Ashworth was gone from February. So we should have brought in a new SDin time to plan for the next transfer window.  Or at least - have a workable plan to execute without his direct input while he gets up to speed.  
 

Neither happened. 

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I assume he means that we knew Ashworth was gone from February. So we should have brought in a new SDin time to plan for the next transfer window.  Or at least - have a workable plan to execute without his direct input while he gets up to speed.  
 

Neither happened. 

 

You must have passed the IQ test then.

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The delays are understandable due to the changes. It’s far from ideal but the transfer window is very much ‘alls well that ends well’. 
 

I’m blaming Staveley and co. for a lot of this. Which is the kindest thing I can do to the club.  They’re gone now.  Professionals in place. I trust them to get it right. 

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7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I assume he means that we knew Ashworth was gone from February. So we should have brought in a new SDin time to plan for the next transfer window.  Or at least - have a workable plan to execute without his direct input while he gets up to speed.  
 

Neither happened. 

 

There's still 6 weeks left of the transfer window to go

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Just now, Pata said:

 

WTF did you mean then? Please explain.

Ashworth wasn't here at the back half of last season and we knew he wouldn't be here for the transfer window.

We probably knew that we weren't going to hire a new DoF until a good few weeks after the season. That gave us what 5-6 months to put a transfer plan in place, identify players Eddie wants and actually make some headway in negotiations, which presumably Nixon could've been heavily involved in.


If what we have heard is true, we have pretty much waited until Mitchell is in place to start our transfer planning, which doesn't leave a lot of time.

What would have happened if Mitchell had fallen through? 

What if Eddie doesn't like any of the players he suggest, and we have to go back to the drawing board?

 

The bit in bold is the bit I was referring to as wank planning. Nowhere in my previous post did I refer to appointing Mitchell as wank planning. Clear?


 

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2 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

If what we have heard is true, we have pretty much waited until Mitchell is in place to start our transfer planning, which doesn't leave a lot of time.

 

There's absolutely no chance this is true. It would be simpler if we had announced Mitchell at the end of the season but for reasons we don't know it only happened in July. Also signing players that Mitchell wouldn't approve would be a catastrophe in so many levels but it doesn't mean we didn't have any plans in place, we are well run now. 

 

You just need to have a go at someone, no idea why I didn't put you on ignore during the season with your weekly Howe-tantrums.

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