NUFC Transfer Rumours

[timeEd32]

8 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

It isn’t great, it was something I had hoped Ashworth could solve when he was here, but he wasn’t able to make much progress either.

 

Hopefully Mitchell will have more luck, but we’re very poor sellers in general.

 

We're poor sellers because we're mostly trying to peddle things no one wants. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If we want to be sellers I’m sure we can get rid of some brilliant players. 
 

The fact is a lot of our squad was worthless, or we couldn’t sell them at their peak because we needed them (Wilson, Miggy). 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[gdm]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Bit cheeky to write Kelly as unattached. He came from another club. 

 

 

 

Technically he didn’t 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, gdm said:

Technically he didn’t 

I know, but it feels like a spin on the transfer that makes it sound like he was just knocking around with nobody wanting him. Which I’m sure wasn’t the case. 
 

Anyway, doesn’t matter, I wasted fingertip skin typing both of these posts

[Shearergol]

35 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

All we need is one good transfer and it's job well done. The only thing that's particularly annoying is being unable to upgrade Dubravka. 

 

Being unable to upgrade Miggy is annoying 99% of this forum tbf

[timeEd32]

13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If we want to be sellers I’m sure we can get rid of some brilliant players. 
 

The fact is a lot of our squad was worthless, or we couldn’t sell them at their peak because we needed them (Wilson, Miggy). 

 

 

 

 

If you wanted to be as critical as possible about our business then this would be the angle. A 31 year old striker coming off an 18 goal season and a 29 year old winger coming off an unprecedented run of goalscoring form. That was the time.

 

The best teams in all sports tend to consistently move players on at sometimes uncomfortable times. The old adage of better to sell a year too early than a year too late. But this is very difficult to do in practice for all sorts of reasons and always much easier to criticize in hindsight.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

 

Being unable to upgrade Miggy is annoying 99% of this forum tbf

 

This forum was annoyed by the unpainted shipping containers in Stack, TBF.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

If you wanted to be as critical as possible about our business then this would be the angle. A 31 year old striker coming off an 18 goal season and a 29 year old winger coming off an unprecedented run of goalscoring form. That was the time.

 

The best teams in all sports tend to consistently move players on at sometimes uncomfortable times. The old adage of better to sell a year too early than a year too late. But this is very difficult to do in practice for all sorts of reasons and always much easier to criticize in hindsight.

Of course, but (as you say) you have to understand the context too. We were coming off the back of a decade and a half of no care for the squad, and only a certain amounts of signings possible. Relegation a real possibility. Therefore you might logically decide that selling your best performing players is a risk you can’t afford to take. 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[GEFAFWISP]

33 minutes ago, Menace said:

Its been a poor window - if someone had said this would be our transfers with 10 days left of our window we'd be scratching our head

 

It's a bit Dalglishy that.

[McCormick]

1 hour ago, Pilko said:

 

On this, if Vlachodimos isn't deemed as good as Dubravka by the coaching staff/Howe it's an absolute fucking travesty we've brought him in, PSR wrangling or not.

 

There's plenty of Forest's players we could have got hold of who could have been of use to us, if this geezer is worse than that jug eared tit there's absolutely no point him being here. As it stands we're still a Pope dodgy landing from him desecrating our goalmouth again, despite it being clear since last January that he's nowhere near up to the job.

 

(insert increasingly speculative high figure around what we supposedly paid for Vlachy, £20bn wasn't it?)

 

Ruddy I can get over as he's basically a coach and doing the same gig as Gillespie, but if they haven't sorted this out in a positive way come the end of the window it's negligent as fuck for our season's ambitions. Way too big a gamble on Pope's fitness.

I’ve said this before but he’s legitimately not even as good as Gillespie, let alone Dubravka. He’s a really awful keeper.

[Pilko]

1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

All we need is one good transfer and it's job well done. The only thing that's particularly annoying is being unable to upgrade Dubravka. 

 

This is it for me as well. Guehi/alternative or a starting RW comes in, I think most people say that's a very good window. Both and it's a brilliant one. Neither and it goes down as frustrating. We're right on the cusp, it's going to be impossible to truly evaluate it til the deadline passes.

[Yorkie]

35 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

All we need is one good transfer and it's job well done. The only thing that's particularly annoying is being unable to upgrade Dubravka. 

 

Being unable to upgrade Miggy is annoying 99% of this forum tbf

 

"One good transfer" means either upgrading Miggy or getting a top CB; we can't have too many complaints if it's one or the other as we're essentially not allowed to do both. You could chastise the scouting department for not uncovering a bargain, I suppose, but we're very risk-averse in the transfer market, which I'm on board with. 

[Scoot]

Wasn't sure where to put this so here will do. I actually agree with Puke here.

 

https://archive.is/wUD4I

[Matt1892]

We need a CB and a RW, if we only get one then questions should be asked about how we have failed to sufficiently support the manager in upgrading the starting eleven.

 

People arguing about how hard it is to find a suitable upgrade on players, whilst simultaneously claiming that the current players are so shit that it is impossible to find a buyer for them. I mean, fucking hell.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I've never been critical of the club since the takeover but failing to get a CB and RW is unacceptable imo, however still 10 days to go so let's see how the window ends

[gdm]

9 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

I've never been critical of the club since the takeover but failing to get a CB and RW is unacceptable imo, however still 10 days to go so let's see how the window ends

I very much agree it will a failure of a window if we don’t get both. However if PSR rules weren’t a thing we’d get both no problem. In other words it’s not like they aren’t trying 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by gdm

[Zero]

16 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

We need a CB and a RW, if we only get one then questions should be asked about how we have failed to sufficiently support the manager in upgrading the starting eleven.

 

People arguing about how hard it is to find a suitable upgrade on players, whilst simultaneously claiming that the current players are so shit that it is impossible to find a buyer for them. I mean, fucking hell.

 

I genuinely don’t think breaking the bank for Guehi is the only answer we have 

[BottledDog]

20 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

I've never been critical of the club since the takeover but failing to get a CB and RW is unacceptable imo, however still 10 days to go so let's see how the window ends

 

 

 

[nufc123]

43 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

"One good transfer" means either upgrading Miggy or getting a top CB; we can't have too many complaints if it's one or the other as we're essentially not allowed to do both. You could chastise the scouting department for not uncovering a bargain, I suppose, but we're very risk-averse in the transfer market, which I'm on board with. 

I think we can have complaints because we have not adressed the two problems we have in our squad. 

[The Prophet]

Just now, nufc123 said:

I think we can have complaints because we have not adressed the two problems we have in our squad. 

 

While I'd like both, you'll always have a weakness in your squad.

[Geordie Ahmed]

13 minutes ago, gdm said:

I very much agree it will a failure of a window if we don’t get both. However if PSR rules weren’t a thing we’d get both no problem. In other words it’s not like they aren’t trying 

 

 

 

 

Well, we reportedly made a bid for Olise and we know we've made a bid for Guehi

 

Whilst PSR might have an impact on who we can sign, what it isn't going to do is stop up us from signing a CB and RW

 

I get people would prefer to wait 6-12 months for our first choice, which I get but not signing a CB/RW would still be unacceptable imo, rather we go down the list to make sure we aren't leaving ourselves short

[nufc123]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

While I'd like both, you'll always have a weakness in your squad.

Sure, but there is weakness and there is noticable weakness. I will stand on this even if we sign prime Maldini, not signing a RW is a failure this window.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

I think we can have complaints because we have not adressed the two problems we have in our squad. 

 

We're bidding £65m for a CB so it's pretty obvious the club knows what it needs.

 

We still need a buyer for Almiron before we can get an RW you'd imagine?

[nufc123]

8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

We're bidding £65m for a CB so it's pretty obvious the club knows what it needs.

 

We still need a buyer for Almiron before we can get an RW you'd imagine?

I trust the people at this club knowing our needs, but that was not the point. We wanted Olise here, so I dont think it depends on Almiron, but a sale in general yes probably.

 

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by nufc123

[Yorkie]

52 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

People arguing about how hard it is to find a suitable upgrade on players, whilst simultaneously claiming that the current players are so shit that it is impossible to find a buyer for them. I mean, fucking hell.

 

It wouldn't be hard to find a basic upgrade, but it's hard to find someone who is enough of an upgrade for it to be worthwhile from a financial perspective. We're taking a risk-averse approach to squad building which - until the academy catches up - is anchored in recruiting as sustainably as possible.

 

If we get no one else I'd question their judgement to some extent, but any transfer window where we've kept Isak, Bruno and Gordon gets a fair bit of grace from me.