CheikBoom Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Appreciate it may go against the grain, but surely people aren't seeing this as a disaster window? GK Shift Dubravka and Greek and we could feasibly get Trafford as a long-term successor to Pope Defence We've were utterly honking at the back last season and often exposed with the lack of pace across the backline. We've addressed that with Kelly and (Hopefully) Guehi. Hall looks more settled and Livramento has been playing well. We'd have no hope of Top 4 if we didn't address the issues in defence. We got top 4 due to our defence. Midfield I know he's not a new signing, but Tonali back is a massive bonus. We've got depth across midfield as shown away to Bournemouth Forwards I get the clamour for a new RW and it's needed. However, over 100 goals across all competitions last season doesn't suggest its a major issue. I want RW upgraded ASAP, but it's not as pressing as people think. All our issues last season started at the back and we're rightly looking to address those. It seems like to address RW we'd have needed to sell one of our blue chip players. It's just not worth it currently. PSR is holding us back and remince of the Ashley era are a major drag. We've got players on big contracts, zero value and nobody wants them. All it takes is one miss on a transfer and PSR will be nibbling our backside again. If its just Guehi that comes in between now and Friday I'd be satisfied we've addressed a major issue last season, lost no big players & confident we can get European football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 I agree but the defence issues were mainly to do with the midfield injuries and Pope being out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, andycap said: I do feel howe would rather keep miggy he seems to rate him. I don't know why mind he's basically just workrate at this part of his career. Would the money we'd get for him fetch the money we'd need to get someone better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Tonali coming in at RCM and/or Trippier starting, and we should be fine. However, any kind of rotation due to players being injured or needing a rest and it all gets tricky, when Longstaff comes in and is paired with our current right wingers and Tino. Really think we've lost our way a bit with recruitment this summer at both centre back and right wing, and are going for absolute guarantees. This is a real shame because we've done well landing really good players that weren't that when we got them, but reached a higher level with us. But let's see where things are come Friday, before going too deep into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 I actually think the strategy of going for Guehi, who would be a different kind of signing to what we've done before, is solid. Sometimes it's OK to pay big money to add someone you know is going to be class. It's just a shame we didn't get it done quickly and it dragged on publicly for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: However, any kind of rotation due to players being injured or needing a rest and it all gets tricky, when Longstaff comes in and is paired with our current right wingers and Tino. When's Miley back? Would love to see him develop and not have to play every minute for months like he did last seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 It's strange because prior to signing Gordon, nearly all the focus of our attacking play was from the right, Trippier, Miggy, Bruno. Miggy getting injured, Trippier having a bad spell, and Bruno now playing deeper, and it's all changed. Would be interested to see if Howe could get those three working together again, especially with the return of Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 1 minute ago, joeyt said: When's Miley back? Would love to see him develop and not have to play every minute for months like he did last seasons Transfermarkt says 16th sept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 1 minute ago, joeyt said: When's Miley back? Would love to see him develop and not have to play every minute for months like he did last seasons Was a metatarsal I think? So might be a little while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I actually think the strategy of going for Guehi, who would be a different kind of signing to what we've done before, is solid. Sometimes it's OK to pay big money to add someone you know is going to be class. It's just a shame we didn't get it done quickly and it dragged on publicly for so long. Kinda. I think we should just go for other options once CP quoted 70m in return. We made a wrong decision at that time. Now probably too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Zero said: Kinda. I think we should just go for other options once CP quoted 70m in return. We made a wrong decision at that time. Now probably too late. Yeah maybe, it's very debatable which price is OK and which isn't. 60, 62, 68? I just leave that to the club to judge. Edited August 27, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I actually think the strategy of going for Guehi, who would be a different kind of signing to what we've done before, is solid. Sometimes it's OK to pay big money to add someone you know is going to be class. It's just a shame we didn't get it done quickly and it dragged on publicly for so long. Yeah, I agree. But, I just think the timing has to be right. If we were set everywhere else in the first team then for sure go for it. However, I think I'd have liked to split the money between CB and RW at this stage. Especially with how well we've done getting players at the £35 million price range previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Yeah, I agree. But, I just think the timing has to be right. If we were set everywhere else in the first team then for sure go for it. However, I think I'd have liked to split the money between CB and RW at this stage. Especially with how well we've done getting players at the £35 million price range previously. True, but we're set 'almost' everywhere else. It's just the RW people are sensitive too because they hate Miggy. No PL team is perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: True, but we're set 'almost' everywhere else. It's just the RW people are sensitive too because they hate Miggy. No PL team is perfect. I don't think people wanting better from that side hate Miggy man It's just not giving us great balance going forward, and if Gordon isn't flying it limits us so much. We've somehow ended up with two players on the right that are not good ball carriers or passers of the ball, which is quite awkward for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) I just mean that people think the world will end if we don't sign a RW, so signing a top-level PL defender isn't really getting the reaction it should. I agree it's needed. Edited August 27, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 1 hour ago, gdm said: Again when it’s warranted. You are really struggling with that aren’t you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just mean that people think the world will end if we don't sign a RW, so signing a top-level PL defender isn't really getting the reaction it should. I agree it's needed. If we do this it’s also clear we rate him far higher than most on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Murphy is a good squad player, but unfair and hyperbole to call him shit or worthless (or similar). Think what grates people, is if you had a main winger and Murphy came in for a 3-4 game spell due to injury, you can tolerate his limitations. It’s if he’s starting 9+ games in a row, people will get tired of watching him and become less tolerant unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just mean that people think the world will end if we don't sign a RW, so signing a top-level PL defender isn't really getting the reaction it should. I agree it's needed. I really like Guehi so would be very happy with that for sure. Would love even a speculative loan on the right too, just for something different. Those tend to open up at the end of the window, and so still hopeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) By the end of the season, unless there are any changes, these are going to be our 30+ year old outfield players next summer (not including goalkeepers): Jacob Murphy - 30 Krafth - 31 Almiron - 31 Lascelles - 31 Dan Burn - 33 Wilson - 33 Schär - 33 Trippier - 34 Going to have to fill some of these gaps eventually. Edited August 27, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 30 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: It's strange because prior to signing Gordon, nearly all the focus of our attacking play was from the right, Trippier, Miggy, Bruno. Miggy getting injured, Trippier having a bad spell, and Bruno now playing deeper, and it's all changed. Would be interested to see if Howe could get those three working together again, especially with the return of Tonali. That Miggy 1-2 with Bruno, over the top caught so many teams cold. Bruno definitely ups Miggys game on that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, gdm said: How hard is it to comprehend that the last thing I want to do is criticise the club but this window warrants critisism. I’m not even that bothered about selling Minteh now as we had to but not signing a winger again warrants critisism. End of story. Really shouldn’t have to explain it 3 times like. I could pretend I’m happy with everything like some on here but that’d be false and I’m not false Warrants criticism if you don't rate Gordon as an RW. 2 years ago people didn't rate him as a footballer full stop, so I think the criticism is a load of tosh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Mitchell likes to do an "audit period" before he makes any changes at a club, which isn't uncommon in executive positions. I doubt he's had much input in this transfer window, especially as we're chasing pre-existing targets. We probably won't begin to see his influence until January. I don't think there's any evidence of tension behind the seasons, particularly as we've not diverted course on our transfer strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 If we've not signed Guehi or similar though, then it's a massive failure. I'm not going to be a bedwetter and start criticising the club if that happens given the trajectory we've been on for 2 and a half years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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