nufc123 Posted Friday at 18:50 Share Posted Friday at 18:50 Just now, ponsaelius said: Aye. Close this fucking thread Fucking close it. So done with it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Friday at 18:50 Share Posted Friday at 18:50 Just now, timeEd32 said: I think there's only one transfer window saga to resolve at this point... @SUPERTOON where's your Donnie Darko review? 😂 I’ve saved it for the international break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Friday at 18:51 Share Posted Friday at 18:51 1 minute ago, B-more Mag said: Only 3 hours, 10 minutes until we can begin judging. Nope, only at the end of the "project" can we judge each individual transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted Friday at 18:52 Share Posted Friday at 18:52 My apologies, always told myself I would never get done by a fake Twitter account, just when you think this day couldn’t get any worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted Friday at 18:52 Share Posted Friday at 18:52 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Nope, only at the end of the "project" can we judge each individual transfer window. So judge the last few weeks in 2031. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted Friday at 18:53 Share Posted Friday at 18:53 Definite 2013-2019 vibes about today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Friday at 18:53 Share Posted Friday at 18:53 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Nope, only at the end of the "project" can we judge each individual transfer window. We can judge it at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Friday at 18:54 Share Posted Friday at 18:54 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Isn’t he the complete opposite of a Howe player ? Mitchell has gone rouge and is making signings of his own accord. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 18:54 Share Posted Friday at 18:54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Friday at 18:54 Share Posted Friday at 18:54 Just now, Andy84 said: Definite 2013-2019 vibes about today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted Friday at 18:54 Share Posted Friday at 18:54 6 minutes ago, midds said: Chalobah going there on loan caps a miserable and pathetic transfer window. Hall was a deal done last summer, Ruddy was a free, Kelly was a free, Pivas was signed from nowhere and Vlach was signed as a favour to Forest for bailing us out of the shit for PSR. The only club we've actually had to deal with is Championship Sheff Utd to get Osula. It's an absolutely abysmal showing from the recruitment team (scouting to deal-making) and no-one will convince me otherwise. No idea who is responsible for each part of the process but it'll get pulled apart in time and it'll come out eventually. If others want to try and sugar-coat things then they're perfectly entitled to do so but I'm not having it Well said mate. No doubt you will be reminded by some that we suffered under Ashley and should just keep quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted Friday at 18:56 Share Posted Friday at 18:56 Fine, I’ll say what everyone’s thinking: this club deserves to go doon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted Friday at 18:56 Share Posted Friday at 18:56 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: You need to know how our structure works to say Howe has been failed. IF he gets final say on players then he’s probably as to blame as anyone. Edited Friday at 18:56 by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Friday at 18:56 Share Posted Friday at 18:56 3hrs to go. Nothing happening. Time to go to give the Internet a break for tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Friday at 18:57 Share Posted Friday at 18:57 Just now, Deuce said: Fine, I’ll say what everyone’s thinking: this club deserves to go doon. Everyone ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Friday at 18:57 Share Posted Friday at 18:57 1 minute ago, Kimbo said: You need to know how our structure works to say Howe has failed. IF he gets final say on players then he’s probably as to blame as anyone. But it says that Newcastle has failed Eddie, not that Eddie has failed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchygr Posted Friday at 18:58 Share Posted Friday at 18:58 Really hoping we get a result Sunday or things could get very toxic very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 18:58 Share Posted Friday at 18:58 Edwards contradicting Hope re Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Friday at 18:58 Share Posted Friday at 18:58 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Best piece he has written in a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Friday at 18:58 Share Posted Friday at 18:58 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What a lot of bollocks. which squad is stronger, the one that finished 4th or the one we have going into this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Friday at 18:59 Share Posted Friday at 18:59 Been awhile since we've had such a shit transfer window Still time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted Friday at 18:59 Share Posted Friday at 18:59 Just now, The Prophet said: Edwards contradicting Hope re Guehi. Howe himself rubbished what Hope was trying to claim in his presser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 19:00 Share Posted Friday at 19:00 Just now, sketchygr said: Really hoping we get a result Sunday or things could get very toxic very quickly. I don't think they'll get toxic, but I agree it does feel like a big game in terns of the mood music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted Friday at 19:03 Share Posted Friday at 19:03 2 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: What a lot of bollocks. which squad is stronger, the one that finished 4th or the one we have going into this season. Tbf the other teams around us have strengthened as well in that time. One might even say that we’re risking being passed on the way by some. As well as some of the teams having stinkers of a season that year as good as we were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted Friday at 19:03 Share Posted Friday at 19:03 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Best piece he has written in a long time. Full Puke: Newcastle have failed Eddie Howe and all of their fans in this transfer window Magpies will do well to qualify for Europe this season after missing out on transfer targets while rival clubs have invested heavily Luke Edwards, Northern Football Writer30 August 2024 • 5:56pm 11 Failure is an emotive word to use to describe Newcastle United. As one of European football’s great underachievers, it is a word synonymous with far more painful periods in the club’s history. Nevertheless, that is a word that can be used to describe this transfer window - and is - by frustrated supporters. The Newcastle board failed manager Eddie Howe by depriving him of the players he wanted to improve his starting XI, leaving him to face a hostile press conference on transfer deadline day, trying to defend the club’s failure to sign England international Marc Guehi – or anyone else – from Crystal Palace after a month-long pursuit. They failed the club’s supporters, who were led to believe that Newcastle, backed by the wealth of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, were unrelentingly ambitious; with a desire to be, in the words of chairman Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the “number one” club in the country. Against that framework, this window has been a huge disappointment. Emotions are raw. There have been lots of pledges made, lots of nice words, very little action. The bottom line is this — Newcastle have not signed any players who are going to give them a better chance of qualifying for Europe again this season, let alone the Champions League. They have not signed the quality of player who will help persuade the likes of Alexander Isak, Bruno Guimaraes and Anthony Gordon to believe they are going to win things in Newcastle colours. That is a failure given everything that chief executive Darren Eales, Howe and the ownership group have previously said in terms of their objectives. Will key players such as Alexander Isak remain convinced of Newcastle's ambition after this summer transfer window? Credit: Newcastle United via Getty Images/Serena Taylor ‘We’ve got to hold our nerve’ A source told Telegraph Sport on Friday that “the biggest mistake people can make is to say we are no longer ambitious, nothing could be further from the truth and we will show that moving forward. “We were not going to sign players in this window we did not really want, that would have been a huge mistake that would have hurt the club in the short, medium and long term. Especially in the world of PSR. We’ve got to hold our nerve and do what is right. Not just for this window, but the next ones too.” That is reassuring to hear, as was more talk of a long-term plan, yet, for the first time since the takeover by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund back in October 2021, momentum has stalled. That is certainly the danger. That is a delicate thing at a club like Newcastle; an emotional football club; a club that either feeds off the positivity of its supporters or is drained by their negativity. It has been a thrilling ride up to this point; a joyful journey fuelled by hope, excitement and the flaming of expectations. This was a new Newcastle United, but this summer it has behaved like older, dysfunctional versions. Targets missed Newcastle needed a right-sided forward and a centre-back, that was the priority drawn up back in the spring. They knew what they needed to progress the team, to improve and strengthen. They did not sign a player in either position. Telegraph Sport was told back in June that they missed out on another centre-back, Tosin Adarabioyo, because the wages on offer were too low. The former Fulham defender joined Chelsea on a free transfer instead. Had that transfer happened it would have only left a right winger to find, with an entire window and a full budget with which to do so. Tosin Adarabioyo ended up at Chelsea because Newcastle would not meet his wage demands Credit: Chelsea FC via Getty Images/Darren Walsh Newcastle did sign a project striker, William Osula from Sheffield United, but he will be third choice behind Alexander Isak and Callum Wilson. Free transfer Lloyd Kelly is an upgrade on the departing Paul Dummett. They also brought in two back-up goalkeepers to cover for Nick Pope. They did not lose any of their best players, which is a bonus, but several, in the words of Howe, have “been unsettled” this summer. They have also had cause to question the direction of travel. Does this remain the same ambitious project that was sold to them when they signed in 2022? Howe coped admirably with the questions fired at him and is far too diplomatic to throw shade at anyone. He pleaded for unity, instead. ‘We can’t tear ourselves apart’ “I understand the frustration and I share it,” he said. “That’s why I say we are all in this together. From ownership to me to the supporters, we need one united cause and the cause has to be against everybody else that we are playing. “What we can’t do as a football club is tear ourselves apart, we have to be united now more than ever.” Nobody would have had a call for unity from the manager on their end-of-window prediction list back in May, but that illustrates where Newcastle and their fanbase are. Howe’s words were well pitched, but let us not forget that he had control of recruitment taken off him this summer in a boardroom shake-up. That power was handed to sporting director Paul Mitchell. In the words of chief executive Eales, 90% of Mitchell’s role is recruitment. In his first window, Newcastle have failed to sign a single player who improves the first team. It is too early to judge Mitchell. He has only been in the job a few weeks, but Telegraph Sport understands it was largely his decision to go all in on Guehi. And it was his call to continue that pursuit right up until the last 48 hours of the window. Mitchell was adamant he could get the deal done, at the right price and there is a feeling he was played by Palace owner Steve Parish, who seemed to revel in defying Newcastle’s interest in Guehi. Buck stops with Eales Eales is also in the firing line. Many felt he won an internal power struggle in the boardroom earlier this year when co-owner Amanda Staveley and her husband Mehrdad Ghodoussi left the club. There would be no more interference from “ministers without a portfolio”, as one observer put it, no matter how well meaning. But now the buck stops with him. When you are the man at the top, you shoulder the ultimate responsibility when things go wrong. If results don't go Newcastle's way Darren Eales, left, will find himself in the firing line Credit: PA Wire/Owen Humphreys So, where does this leave Newcastle this season? It should be stressed, they still have a strong team that, as long as there is not the same crippling number of injuries as last season, will be competitive again. Italy international Sandro Tonali is back after a 10-month ban. Those unsettled by transfer window speculation when they had a sun tan should be more focused and motivated by the time it fades. However, it would be sensible for a realignment of expectations. Targets need to be realistic. Eales has said it publicly – and Howe has been told – the target is European qualification again, yet all the six teams who finished above Newcastle last season have improved their squads. The teams below them, such as Manchester United, West Ham and Brighton have also strengthened. Another top-eight finish would be excellent in the circumstances. If you stand still in football you tend to go backwards, but Newcastle have enjoyed an unbeaten start to the season and retained – in a favourite phrase of former manager Sir Bobby Robson – their blue cup brigade. Guehi deal to be revisited They will also have money to spend in January and will almost certainly revisit the Guehi deal when he will have just 18 months left on his Palace contract. You also sense Howe will be much happier when all the drama of the window is behind him and he can focus on what he does best – coach. Newcastle exceeded expectations in the first three years since the takeover largely because of him, which is why the Football Association will be watching his situation closely as they wait to fill the vacant England job with a permanent replacement for Gareth Southgate. Howe has once again, after questioning his emotions back in July, shortly after Mitchell’s appointment and the departure of Staveley, declared he is “happy” at St James’ Park and the relationships with people internally are “working well.” In the end, as someone pointed out at his press conference on Friday, seasons are not won or lost on the back of a transfer window. Newcastle have had a bad one but that does not automatically equate to a poor campaign. But if things go sour in the months ahead, you already know where the finger of blame will be pointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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