NUFC Transfer Rumours

[SteV]

16 minutes ago, Ed Vinegar said:

Can someone in the know on PSR help me out? Does it effectively mean that you have to sign players with a view to reselling at a profit? Or would there be a way to sign an expensive older player who would end their career with you without it being financially ruinous?

 

A system that means you can't buy players older than about 25 seems very bad for clubs and players. 

You don’t have to sign players that you’re going to be able to resell, but if you’re buying players with little potential resale value, you probably best hope they perform well enough to get you to where you want to be so you can make the required income from other areas (CL being the obvious one).

 

There hasn’t been much evidence of it yet, but you’d maybe hope that it eventually drives down the wages of older players a bit, so clubs don’t get stuck with players in their 30’s, on ridiculous money, that they can’t shift.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 16:17 by SteV

[Pata]

3 minutes ago, SteV said:

You don’t have to sign players that you’re going to be able to resell, but if you’re buying players with little potential resale value, you probably best hope they perform well enough to get you to where you want to be so you can make the required income from areas (CL being the obvious one).

 

There hasn’t been much evidence of it yet, but you’d maybe hope that it eventually drives down the wages of older players a bit, so clubs don’t get stuck with players in their 30’s, on ridiculous money, that they can’t shift.

I’m expecting the opposite actually, older players are more actively looking to run down their contracts as the transfer demand has gone down and their wages end up going up due to free transfers.

 

It’s such a backwards result of these sustainability rules that clubs are forced to sell young homegrown talent as a) pure profit and b) the pool of teams that can afford to take the risk and sign expensive 27-30 year olds is really small and even they seem hesitant to do it.

[The Prophet]

What's Hope chatting in his latest video? Can't be arsed to watch it.

[Nucasol]

6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

What's Hope chatting in his latest video? Can't be arsed to watch it.

Doom. Misery. Disaster. Just the usual from the over dramatic cunt.

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

Doom. Misery. Disaster. Just the usual from the over dramatic cunt.

 

Sounds like he's got the hump because no one is briefing the locals?

[Nucasol]

5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Sounds like he's got the hump because no one is briefing the locals?

Hilarious if true. Shows how out of the loop they all are.

[Jaqen]

[Chiaia]

4 hours ago, Geogaddi said:

We aren't playing football manager here, we can't just go out and blast the majority of our budget on Bowen like you suggested. He is 29 this year and probably has about two good years left in him. We obviously wanted Mbeumo and Delap but Chelsea and Man United have blown us out the water with wages.

 

What exactly do you mean that Eddie has to deliver? He's restricted with FFP and we can't just spend and buy whatever we want like our rivals can. We certainly can't pay the wages they can either . He brought us the likes of Tonali, Bruno, Isak and Botman so he has nothing to prove in the transfer market . Why should we have to sell Tino or Gordon which theoretically makes us weaker just so we can buy a few extra players who may or may not improve the squad ?

He has to deliver as he is the one clearly in control of transfers now. Last summers sh** show was down to either Eddie or Mitchell. None of us know which one but it was definitely one of them who were digging their heels in and at odds with what the other wanted. Only those inside the club will know which one it was. 
 

I highly doubt Eddie did sign them it was more than likely it was Nickson /Mandys team/Ashworth. And if he did well then let’s have some more of that type from Europe as there must be plenty of gems in Europe for a reasonable price. 
 

Every club has to sell players. You can’t just keep buying and buying and spending and spending without selling to balance the books and reinvest. 
Liverpool sold coutinho and replaced him with 2-3 top signings and won the lot. Villa sold grealish as a bottom half club and used the money to start to build a top 6 squad. Even Man City and Chelsea a few years after their takeovers sold plenty of top players for good money to keep things ticking along financially. You can’t sit on a 500m pound squad and then plead poverty.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 16:58 by Chiaia

[bigfella]

1 hour ago, Deuce said:

Did he?

 

"Clearly" especially when things are anything but clear, is one of the most overused words on this site.

[Andy84]

Keeping tabs on Semenyo according to TalkSPORT. The pace we move at it’s probably for 27/28

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 17:00 by Andy84

[The Prophet]

People do realise the season ended around ten days ago right?

[Ikon]

Just now, The Prophet said:

People do realise the season ended around ten days ago right?

I do, and I’m not stressed about it. Way too early to say too much or anything really. Having said that, it wouldn’t surprise me if we end up being quite slow to get them over the line like we have been before. 

[54]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

People do realise the season ended around ten days ago right?

Every year i'm always ready for the season ending, with a feeling of "The footballs over now, everyone can relax and unwind for a bit before coming back in 6/8 weeks", and then two days after having read this thread i'm back to wanting football back, not because I actually want to watch football, but to get away for the tedious debate and seemingly endless worry that people have over the Transfer window  

[joeyt]

1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

I'd take Luiz based on his Villa performances, like. Not sure what he's been like in Serie A. Also means the lasses get Alisha Lehmann.

 

Split up haven't they?

[Scoot]

28 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Sounds like he's got the hump because no one is briefing the locals?

 

Probably true. Not 1 of them had a clue Mitchell was leaving, it was a club statement which broke the news.

 

But of course they all know who our targets are and how much we have to spend.  

[Weezertron]

I don't fully understand the attempt of policing of users freaking out on here during a transfer window, other than it being a tad annoying. Let them gan wild. 

[Nucasol]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

 

Split up haven't they?

[Cristov]

5 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Split up haven't they?

 

Avoid Luiz then, probably depressed and suicidal. 

[joeyt]

Just wait until he meets teeth girl

[Magpie Mover]

2 hours ago, Geogaddi said:

I wouldn't be against it for 80 million , he clearly wanted to join them last summer and we will never know if it contributed to him having a poorer season than the one before but I think it did . I would be confident we could improve the squad with that money and if we do have to sell a purple eventually then he is the most disposable.

If Diaz goes maybe they would look at Gordon. For a reasonable fee I'd let him go, don't particularly like his attitude and we have Barnes already.

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

If someone offers us big money for him I think we should take it too, on his day he's fantastic but all too often he has had long periods of looking disinterested and wasteful.

 

Also Barnes is now as, if not more, effective than him on the left, and we have decent cover there in Joelinton and Willock.

 

 

 

Yea, we won’t at all go backwards by having Barnes as main LW and needing to use Willock or Joelinton LW as back up  

 

If for some reason we sold Gordon for big money, we’d need to replace him for big money. 

[Weezertron]

It's the wrong time to sell Gordon I reckon. Unless Liverpool are desperate enough to overpay for him. 

 

Give him the first half of next season to build up some form and flog him in January at an inflated price (if we're inclined to do so)

[Ed Vinegar]

1 hour ago, SteV said:

You don’t have to sign players that you’re going to be able to resell, but if you’re buying players with little potential resale value, you probably best hope they perform well enough to get you to where you want to be so you can make the required income from other areas (CL being the obvious one).

 

There hasn’t been much evidence of it yet, but you’d maybe hope that it eventually drives down the wages of older players a bit, so clubs don’t get stuck with players in their 30’s, on ridiculous money, that they can’t shift.

 

 

 

Thanks! So it seems like it limits the pool of clubs that can take a risk on more established players to either those with other areas of profit or those with established footballing revenue. Would be interesting to see how PL clubs would have fared without mega money deals from Saudi clubs.

 

47 minutes ago, Pata said:

I’m expecting the opposite actually, older players are more actively looking to run down their contracts as the transfer demand has gone down and their wages end up going up due to free transfers.

 

It’s such a backwards result of these sustainability rules that clubs are forced to sell young homegrown talent as a) pure profit and b) the pool of teams that can afford to take the risk and sign expensive 27-30 year olds is really small and even they seem hesitant to do it.

Yeah, my thinking was that it will effect transfer demand for players past say 26-27. You're right though that that could benefit players - either their current club is incentivised to keep them or they can get more money out of a new club that will be saving a transfer fee.

 

Does feel like PSR might decrease transfer activity overall which presumably isn't good for the football economy, will be interesting to see what things look like in a few years.

[Sibierski]

Orny tweet incoming tonight or tomorrow IMO

[JT24]

2 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Orny tweet incoming tonight or tomorrow IMO

https://archive.ph/tMpWC
 

for those inclined.