Nucasol Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 5 minutes ago, NWMag said: Only 1 year left on his deal apparently which could explain the price Swap deal for Willock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I’d actually say that once Villa sold Duran, and excluding dual-role players, Muniz was probably the best back-up striker in the league last season. edit - suppose you could say Nunez like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Good finisher in the box but he also seems to drop deep and link up play. His highlight reel shows a signature whipped ball out to the RW from deep. Looks like the budget Joao Pedro option. Would be a steal at 25m but surely Fulham would want more. The price that's out there is £50 million. They do not want to lose him, but due to him going into the final year from next summer, will likely have to if they can't agree a new contract. There's been talk as of yesterday that Fulham are interested in Joe Willock, and so maybe that comes into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I can’t get away with Muniz, I know situations can change players but he looked a right Donkey when he was on loan at Middlesbrough. He had a hot streak when he got back into the Fulham side but I can’t say I’ve ever thought he was any better than a Fulham second striker which means I’m not sure he’s good enough to be our second striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: The price that's out there is £50 million. They do not want to lose him, but due to him going into the final year from next summer, will likely have to if they can't agree a new contract. There's been talk as of yesterday that Fulham are interested in Joe Willock, and so maybe that comes into play. The price for Muniz is 50m? Fucking hell avoid like the plague. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago He looks like the type of bloke that will instantly get fat as fuck the moment he stops training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Just now, KDT said: I can’t get away with Muniz, I know situations can change players but he looked a right Donkey when he was on loan at Middlesbrough. He had a hot streak when he got back into the Fulham side but I can’t say I’ve ever thought he was any better than a Fulham second striker which means I’m not sure he’s good enough to be our second striker. I kind of understand where you're coming from. He can have poor moments, but he can also have really good ones too. A few things that make me think he may be attractive to Howe is how good he is defensively/pressing, his aerial ability, and his work ethic and attitude towards improving. There was an article just the other day on him in that Athletic. And he already does extra work with video analysts etc to improve, similar to what Joelinton does. Worth a read: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6397105/2025/06/04/rodrigo-muniz-interview-fulham-brazil-maguire-van-dijk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Muniz is giving me vibes of Neal Maupay. Avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago We aren’t spending big on a back up striker imo. Delap was seen as a market opportunity imo, and someone who long term may have developed into an Isak replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We aren’t spending big on a back up striker imo. Delap was seen as a market opportunity imo, and someone who long term may have developed into an Isak replacement. It's all coming up DCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: The price for Muniz is 50m? Fucking hell avoid like the plague. Buying from any club in the Premier League now is going to be a case of paying over the odds if they want to keep the player. Unless they are in the last year of their deal and not signing a new contract. I keep saying it, but we are moving closer and closer to parity. Either teams keep their best players, or they get so much more money for them that they are likely to come away even stronger, as they are more and more well equipped to identify good replacements and more from all over the place. We'd better not overly limit ourselves to buying domestically, or we won't make progress like we hope too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Buying from any club in the Premier League now is going to be a case of paying over the odds if they want to keep the player. Unless they are in the last year of their deal and not signing a new contract. I keep saying it, but we are moving closer and closer to parity. Either teams keep their best players, or they get so much more money for them that they are likely to come away even stronger, as they are more and more well equipped to identify good replacements and more from all over the place. We'd better not overly limit ourselves to buying domestically, or we won't make progress like we hope too. I'm certain we aren't stupid enough to pay 50m for Muniz so no worries here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I often see folks on here saying similar to “He’s not a Howe player” when player X is kind of creative and has very good technical ability. I mean, yeah sometimes it’s justified but I also see it when it’s not tbh. I know we currently don’t have much creativity or technical ability in some areas. Even out wide where we’ve spent close to 100m we lack this. I’d be amazed if Eddie doesn’t like great technical ability and some creativity. I mean he has been saying how much he admires the way PSG play football (so do I). Surely he would know that it’s needed to evolve and that you can’t play the way they do without it. Especially at the very highest level. It obviously cannot be 100% of that and then no work rate. Without great technical ability you can only get so far. I guess balance is key here. I take most links with a massive pinch of salt. I also hope and think that Howe realises that we need to improve in this area to go to the next level (sign technical ability). I love intensity and pressing but there needs to be a balance and variety on top of that. 100% intensity alone isn’t sustainable. Not mentally or physically. Especially with Europe involved. So, even if I know 90% of all the links are bullshit, I still don’t like it when we get linked with players that lack that extra natural ability on the ball. Hopefully we will get the right players in for us to take the next step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We aren’t spending big on a back up striker imo. Delap was seen as a market opportunity imo, and someone who long term may have developed into an Isak replacement. Can only see it happening if we are also selling someone the other way for decent money. Something like Muniz for £45 million and Willock to them for £30 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I'm certain we aren't stupid enough to pay 50m for Muniz so no worries here. Even 30m will be too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Whatever striker we sign is going to feel underwhelming but we have one the top 5 strikers in the world, no one who feels exciting as a signing is going to come here to sit on the bench. I'd like to see an Alvarez type who came in to play understudy to Haaland and was relatively unknown at a cost of £14mil. Hard to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ikon said: I often see folks on here saying similar to “He’s not a Howe player” when player X is kind of creative and has very good technical ability. I mean, yeah sometimes it’s justified but I also see it when it’s not tbh. I know we currently don’t have much creativity or technical ability in some areas. Even out wide where we’ve spent close to 100m we lack this. I’d be amazed if Eddie doesn’t like great technical ability and some creativity. I mean he has been saying how much he admires the way PSG play football (so do I). Surely he would know that it’s needed to evolve and that you can’t play the way they do without it. Especially at the very highest level. It obviously cannot be 100% of that and then no work rate. Without great technical ability you can only get so far. I guess balance is key here. I take most links with a massive pinch of salt. I also hope and think that Howe realises that we need to improve in this area to go to the next level (sign technical ability). I love intensity and pressing but there needs to be a balance and variety on top of that. 100% intensity alone isn’t sustainable. Not mentally or physically. Especially with Europe involved. So, even if I know 90% of all the links are bullshit, I still don’t like it when we get linked with players that lack that extra natural ability on the ball. Hopefully we will get the right players in for us to take the next step. The problem is that we can't sign technical players who can't do the physical side. There's no world in which we actively go out to sign technical players who are just technical players because it would kill the team DNA. Quality players who can do both cost a fortune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, JP said: Whatever striker we sign is going to feel underwhelming but we have one the top 5 strikers in the world, no one who feels exciting as a signing is going to come here to sit on the bench. I'd like to see an Alvarez type who came in to play understudy to Haaland and was relatively unknown at a cost of £14mil. Hard to find. There are strikers out there, but just not sure we'd do it. Think we're trying to land players that are going to be comfortable in the league straight away. Somewhat understandable, but also limits us to some extent. Edited 13 hours ago by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago This is where I struggle with these kind of links. I am totally on board with getting the correct "type" of player in, however, surely there are cheaper alternatives in other leagues, yes it could be riskier but the funds involved would be a lot less than what Fulham will want plus I am not convinced Muniz is that good? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I know it's unpopular to say we want forriner but it's a black and white case of there being value there, and I'm honestly sick of being told we're pinned back by PSR, only to then spunk value on domestic based players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago The striker will be DCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, STM said: The problem is that we can't sign technical players who can't do the physical side. There's no world in which we actively go out to sign technical players who are just technical players because it would kill the team DNA. Quality players who can do both cost a fortune. Obviously, like I hinted towards in my post already. Yeah they can cost a bomb if we go for the players that already are at the highest level/more experienced and especially from within our league alone. Personally I do think there is technical players out there that aren’t in the mould of Cherki for example, and that wouldn’t cost a bomb. It’s not like players like Elanga to name one isn’t very expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I think a 10/striker hybrid and a change of system is on the cards. It probably means we could get away with a free/cheap CM as effectively 6th choice CM. Id take JP for £60m + Gomes/Doucoure for ‘free’. If we planned to play with JP at the 10 a lot of the time. Both would be backup in that system. And next up in a 433 if needed. That should still allow us to buy a RW and CB imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tisd09 said: This is where I struggle with these kind of links. I am totally on board with getting the correct "type" of player in, however, surely there are cheaper alternatives in other leagues, yes it could be riskier but the funds involved would be a lot less than what Fulham will want plus I am not convinced Muniz is that good? . It's worth baring in mind that we haven't signed him. I say that because perhaps the financials of it aren't worth it and therefore the club have moved away from him. But let's say we did sign him. The going rate for a good PL striker, who's 24, has room to grow and is looking like seeing out his contract is probably somewhere around 20/25m. In fact I'd argue that's a pretty good deal. We need someone who is useful and someone who our coaches can get their teeth stuck into. At 24, if I didn't work, we'd likely get the bulk of that fee back a couple of years down the line, just as we did with Chris Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I don’t see the logic of paying a decent fee for a player that will be strict backup. Isak will still start every game he is 80% fit for and the other player will be on the bench. A worthwhile understudy needs to be able to play with Isak either at 10 or RW. That way you can get a higher calibre of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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