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6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


£30m worth of an upgrade? 
 

Doesn’t feel like an great opportunistic move, especially when it helps a rival.

 

The "big 6" help each other loads, we should be looking to do the same with the other teams that want to break in like us. If it helps us all negate PSR and helps us all sign players like they can, it makes sense. Otherwise they'll just pull further away.

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Gotta admit I thought Ramsey was younger - he's done ok at Villa but he's not pulling up any trees.  So on reflection it's a no from me - £29 mil would be better spent elsewhere.

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2 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Be happy with Ramsay for the price. The whole helping out Aston Villa thing is irrelevant, if not us, someone else will bite. They’re not going to be docked points.

Well.....they will if they breach.  Only Man U, Chelsea, City, Liverpool and Spurs are allowed to.  Them the rules.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, duo said:

Well.....they will if they breach.  Only Man U, Chelsea, City, Liverpool and Spurs are allowed to.  Them the rules.

 

 

 

They have a huge amount of saleable assets. It’s a pain for them, but they’ll easily make up the money.

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9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Trafford 

Elanga

Pedro

Guehi

Ramsey


If that’s who we want, then we will need a big sale surely.

Still not convinced we get any of these. Don’t mean that negatively I still think the players we want aren’t common knowledge 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Teasy said:

 

But who's going to match him for goals and assists and also have much better ball retention?  It's not like he passes the ball to the opposition often.  A major part of his lower ball retention is due to the fact he tries crosses and shots.  Easy for wingers to retain the ball more if they risk possession less but they aren't likely to get near him in assists in that case.

It’s not like. He’s generally poor in possession - bad passes under no pressure. Worse passes under pressure.  Just lacks basic footballing ability. It’s not really a debate - you can see it. 
 

Cant criticise his G/A and I would only hope to replicate that with his replacement.  
 

We’ll never be a Pep type team.  But you can see our level of play would go up a level with better ball playing GK, LCB, CM, RW. I don’t think it’s a particular strength of Livramento or Gordon but it’s a lot better than Burn and Murphy.  Just that bit more comfortable on the ball. 

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22 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Trafford 

Elanga

Pedro

Guehi

Ramsey


If that’s who we want, then we will need a big sale surely.

Surely not. We havent invested in 3 transfer windows and next season we are getting rid of the 22/23 season when we had a deficit of £70m.

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5 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Surely not. We havent invested in 3 transfer windows and next season we are getting rid of the 22/23 season when we had a deficit of £70m.

True, but we're still paying the wages and amortisation of pretty much every player we've signed since the takeover so that £70m deficit dropping off is only part of the story

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21 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

True, but we're still paying the wages and amortisation of pretty much every player we've signed since the takeover so that £70m deficit dropping off is only part of the story

Yes but our commercial revenue has also increased to counter that.

In 23/24 the deficit got reduced to £11m and this season cant be that bad either since we got pure profit from a couple of sales. 

With extra money from CL next season its hard to understand why we wouldn't be in a good position in regards to PSR.

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3 hours ago, joeyt said:

 

Assume Rogers won't help them as much as selling Ramsey due to him not coming through their academy 

Aye might level out in PSR terms. Depends how much Rogers head gets turned when clubs come in for him.

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