nwopnufc Posted Tuesday at 17:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:07 11 minutes ago, tgarve said: That wasn’t the fee we signed him for though - look at the records Undisclosed, believed to be £20m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 17:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:07 3 hours ago, aussiemag said: Ideal window for me is: In Trafford (30 mill) Guehi (40 mill) Ederson (40 mill) Jao Pedro (50 mill) Akliouche/Elanga (40 mill) Ramsay (30 mill) Total: 230 mill Out Longstaff (15 mill) Willock (25 mill) Targett (5 mill) Kelly (20 mill) Dubravka (5 mill) Vlachodimos (10 mill) Total: 80 mill Net Spend: 150 mill. Probably impossible to do. Saudis need to step up and triple those "out" prices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted Tuesday at 17:27 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:27 3 hours ago, aussiemag said: Ideal window for me is: In Trafford (30 mill) Guehi (40 mill) Ederson (40 mill) Jao Pedro (50 mill) Akliouche/Elanga (40 mill) Ramsay (30 mill) Total: 230 mill Out Longstaff (15 mill) Willock (25 mill) Targett (5 mill) Kelly (20 mill) Dubravka (5 mill) Vlachodimos (10 mill) Total: 80 mill Net Spend: 150 mill. Probably impossible to do. Conveniently under valued most of the players we'll sign, and over valued the players we'll sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Tuesday at 17:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:42 47 minutes ago, nwopnufc said: That’s incorrect, if we sold him now for £10m we would show a £6m loss due to amortisation Assuming the £20m was correct and any deal happens after 1st July then you can also take into account the amortisation for 25/26 as it's a hit if he stays or goes and you've got a years wages saved from the p&l. So overall the loss in 25/26 is of a base cost of around £10m None of this applies before the end of June! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwopnufc Posted Tuesday at 18:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:09 25 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Assuming the £20m was correct and any deal happens after 1st July then you can also take into account the amortisation for 25/26 as it's a hit if he stays or goes and you've got a years wages saved from the p&l. So overall the loss in 25/26 is of a base cost of around £10m None of this applies before the end of June! Wouldn’t it be £12m base cost from July onwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted Tuesday at 18:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:10 43 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Conveniently under valued most of the players we'll sign, and over valued the players we'll sell Let me dream! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Tuesday at 18:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:13 3 minutes ago, nwopnufc said: Wouldn’t it be £12m base cost from July onwards I'm taking an educated guess on wages being around £2m a year and as you would pay them if he stays they come off the base cost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted Tuesday at 19:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:38 (edited) 1 hour ago, nwopnufc said: Wouldn’t it be £12m base cost from July onwards More likely the "asset" depreciates over the entire FY therefore, his value is down to £16m at the end of this month, 2024/5 FY - His value will be near £12m at the end of the next FY (25/6) as I understand it Edited Tuesday at 19:39 by Mag3.14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Tuesday at 20:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Tuesday at 20:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:46 Why would they be open to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted Tuesday at 20:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:58 4 hours ago, tgarve said: That wasn’t the fee we signed him for though - look at the records we signed him for £20m on a five year deal. After one year his book value is now down to £16m. So a sale for £10m now would represent a £6m loss for PSR purposes. What part of that do you think is incorrect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Tuesday at 21:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:00 What is Targett's value though, like £5 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowgatePigeon Posted Tuesday at 21:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:01 14 minutes ago, gdm said: Never heard of Andrew Musgrove before, but going off that tweet, I assume he's a grifting bullshit merchant? On a scale of reliability from Burnsie to Ornstein, where does this guy sit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 21:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:02 16 minutes ago, gdm said: Fuck yes £500k a week off the wage bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Tuesday at 21:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:05 2 minutes ago, GallowgatePigeon said: Never heard of Andrew Musgrove before, but going off that tweet, I assume he's a grifting bullshit merchant? On a scale of reliability from Burnsie to Ornstein, where does this guy sit? He’s part of the chronicle so pinch of salt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Tuesday at 21:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:09 5 minutes ago, Ben said: Fuck yes £500k a week off the wage bill Wait til Palace find out his wage demands. Who'd have thought Matt Targett would be the reason we can't sign Marc Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Tuesday at 21:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:13 25 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Why would they be open to that Bit of PSR swapsie? 10m for Targett = 55m for Guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Tuesday at 21:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:13 10 minutes ago, GallowgatePigeon said: Never heard of Andrew Musgrove before, but going off that tweet, I assume he's a grifting bullshit merchant? On a scale of reliability from Burnsie to Ornstein, where does this guy sit? 7 minutes ago, gdm said: He’s part of the chronicle so pinch of salt I'm very confident that he's just made that up. Never given any indication that he has any sources whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Tuesday at 21:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:34 Musgrove is absolutely sound man. I have no idea on the validity of him claim mind. Also Palace wanting Targett as part of a Guehi deal, what's next, they will only sell us Guehi if we allow Isaac Hayden to join them too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Tuesday at 21:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:37 21 minutes ago, SteV said: Bit of PSR swapsie? 10m for Targett = 55m for Guehi We won't get Guehi for 45m, not even in last year of his contract. However, any such PSR typed shenanigans could very well see us be prepared to over-pay, in order to shift a player like Targett, whereby we get the PSR benefit from the sale. So I'm agreeing with you but not with them figures. Maybe 50m one way and 8m the other. Which from a PSR point of view would still be excellent business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Tuesday at 21:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:47 Mitchell may be leaving on a free, Targett is more than a good enough replacement for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Tuesday at 21:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:52 Not to start this off after last summer... but Chiesa may be up for sale by Liverpool. He never played there. I'd definitely take him as decent backup across the front line. If we have new RW, Chiesa, Murphy, Gordon and Barnes - that's an excellent set of wingers with a bit of everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted Tuesday at 21:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:56 21 minutes ago, STM said: Musgrove is absolutely sound man. I have no idea on the validity of him claim mind. Also Palace wanting Targett as part of a Guehi deal, what's next, they will only sell us Guehi if we allow Isaac Hayden to join them too? They not at risk of losing Mitchell this window? Target's on a similar level (when fit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted Tuesday at 21:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:58 5 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Not to start this off after last summer... but Chiesa may be up for sale by Liverpool. He never played there. I'd definitely take him as decent backup across the front line. If we have new RW, Chiesa, Murphy, Gordon and Barnes - that's an excellent set of wingers with a bit of everything. The lad’s fucking crocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Tuesday at 22:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:00 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Why would they be open to that It's click bait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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