NUFC Transfer Rumours

[The Prophet]

21 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Dont think there’s much snobbery to PL players here. Even though quite many seem to be pushing this agenda quite frequently. A bit weird tbh.

 

Its mostly because some are overpriced, or perhaps some people just like to discuss it and their opinion might be that player X ishouldnt be a priority, especially for the position/money. 
 

I haven’t seen too many saying that he is shite? Personally I do rate Ramsey but I have question marks  regarding his reliability. He hasn’t been quite the same player as before, but that might just be temporarily.  I don’t want us to sign players unless we are as certain as possible that they super reliable like Tonali, Bruno and so on, or at least towards that. We can’t afford to take risks. 
 

For example, I’ve seen plenty be against some PL players, but also the same people wanting JP for example. We are mostly linked with PL players so that might make some think we are against PL players because some don’t want some. If we were linked with as many from the outside I’m sure many would be against signing quite a few of them.

 

 

 

 

For clarity, I completely agree that Premier League players often come at a premium and it is worth looking abroad to see if better value can be sought.

 

At the same time the some fans definitely talk down players like Guehi, Ramsey and Elanga. There was talk the latter may only be worth £35 million, while there were parallel discussions Tino is worth £80 million plus.

 

It's not a new phenomenon, it's been going for years. It's probably just the familiarity of these players and that we become more accustom to their strengths and weaknesses v the more unknown foreign import.

[Scoot]

24 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

No credible source has linked us with him since last summer and he looks to have regressed over the last 12 months. 

 

 

 

Hey that's great!

 

I'll back the manager on any transfers as he's earned it. 

[The Prophet]

20 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Only 2 league goals in 2 seasons and a poor injury record, not sure its snobbery that some are not that keen. 

 

His injury record wasn't mentioned.

[r0cafella]

20 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

 

Depends who you count as credible, Ornstein? No, he hasn't linked us.

 

But Douglas, Waugh etc have. Possibly Edwards and Hope too (not 100% sure)

Waugh has mentioned we've discussed him sure but im sure we have discussed 100's of players. 

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

His injury record wasn't mentioned.

His goal record though? Fwiw i think he would be a good squad addition, if he stays fit i think he is the exact type of player Howe loves. As long as his signing didn't impact us getting other more important positions, i would be happy with it.  

[The Prophet]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

His goal record though? Fwiw i think he would be a good squad addition, if he stays fit i think he is the exact type of player Howe loves. As long as his signing didn't impact us getting other more important positions, i would be happy with it.  

 

Aye. Obviously we'd have to see how the window plays out, but the early assumption would have to be he's coming in to replace Willock?

[Whitley mag]

May as well just keep Willock he’s injury prone and doesn’t score as well,, save ourselves 30 million in the process.

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Aye. Obviously we'd have to see how the window plays out, but the early assumption would have to be he's coming in to replace Willock?

Yeah, would think so. He is an upgrade on Willock imo. 

[Ikon]

17 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

For clarity, I completely agree that Premier League players often come at a premium and it is worth looking abroad to see if better value can be sought.

 

At the same time the some fans definitely talk down players like Guehi, Ramsey and Elanga. There was talk the latter may only be worth £35 million, while there were parallel discussions Tino is worth £80 million plus.

 

It's not a new phenomenon, it's been going for years. It's probably just the familiarity of these players and that we become more accustom to their strengths and weaknesses v the more unknown foreign import.

From what I’ve read I’m pretty certain that 95% of people on here would ber more than happy with Guehi. As for Ramsey, I think most people acknowledge that he’s talented, and a very good player. I think most people who are slightly against it is because it shouldn’t be a priority due to position or question marks regarding his reliability which is perfectly normal and understandable. I don’t think it’s such an easy and cheap deal to do like some seem to think. Villa have plenty of other players they can easily sell before him. We should put our time and effort into bigger priorities. 
 

As for Elanga, if he’s worth 50-60 then Tino is easily worth more than that. Also, Tino  is a PL player. I think most people on here that are against Elanga is because of the price for a limited footballer. I think most want a player that is better technically and one that offers more in general play, and most of all something different to what we have. If we are to evolve we need to raise the floor when it comes to technical ability and just the general quality when it comes to ball retention and control. Elanga doesn’t improve this. He’s more or less a younger version of Murphy that most on here want to be a good squad player. Quicker as well obviously. He doesn’t transform us. Absolutely no chance one of the top top clubs go for Elanga  because he lacks too much in general play.  (Obviously other differences between the two but point stands)

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Ikon

[Whitley mag]

15 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Yeah, would think so. He is an upgrade on Willock imo. 

Is that what we should be aiming for an upgrade on Willock though ? Seems a very low bar and whilst I acknowledge a midfielder isn’t a priority, with big Joe’s injuries they could be playing 50% of games next season.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Whitley mag

[Ikon]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Is that what we should be aiming for an upgrade on Willock though ? Seems a very low bar and whilst I acknowledge a midfielder isn’t a priority, with big Joe’s injuries they could be playing 50% of games next season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think a CM should be a big priority, but perhaps not the kind of  LW/hybrid Ramsey is but more of an all rounder who can play in a two as well. A CM then sign someone like Pedro who can play many positions and give us a lot of flexibility as well as providing cover/rotation for Isak. 

[SUPERTOON]

9 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Is that what we should be aiming for an upgrade on Willock though ? Seems a very low bar and whilst I acknowledge a midfielder isn’t a priority, with big Joe’s injuries they could be playing 50% of games next season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, i would love us to go out and get another top class CM. Just trying to be realistic though, it isn't going to happen in this window imo. 

[Ikon]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I agree, i would love us to go out and get another top class CM. Just trying to be realistic though, it isn't going to happen in this window imo. 

We might not sign a Ederson kind of CM but I really really think it would be an absolutely massive massive mistake not signing someone that offers more than Willock and Longstaff when it comes to reliability/quality. Keep it as it is and it could very well ruin the season. 
 

It’s vital that we get a CM of some kind. I’d be trying to shift both Willock and Longstaff if possible. If we can’t get a top class one then fine,  but then at least get someone younger like Fernandes from Southampton or similar who offers something now as well as having potential to grow with time. 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Ikon

[Keegans Export]

1 hour ago, Ikon said:

We might not sign a Ederson kind of CM but I really really think it would be an absolutely massive massive mistake not signing someone that offers more than Willock and Longstaff when it comes to reliability/quality. Keep it as it is and it could very well ruin the season. 
 

It’s vital that we get a CM of some kind. I’d be trying to shift both Willock and Longstaff if possible. If we can’t get a top class one then fine,  but then at least get someone younger like Fernandes from Southampton or similar who offers something now as well as having potential to grow with time. 

 

I'm with Ikon on this.

 

Look at our run at the end of November into middle of December. We play 22nd, 25th, 29th, 3rd, 6th, 9th then the mackems on the 13th. Some tricky games in there too. As it stands, we'd have to play Tonali, Bruno, Joelinton constantly, or change our shape to accommodate someone other than a CM coming into the side. 

 

What will do us in that run is not the quality of our best XI (even if it still has Schar and Murphy in it) but the drop-off between our best 12-13 players and the rest. Even adding players behind Tonali/Bruno but superior to Longstaff & Willock would massively improve our chances next season.

[Coffee_Johnny]

3 hours ago, Andy84 said:

We really don’t need Jacob Ramsey. It feels like a signing for signings sake unless we are selling Willock. We need a right winger, striker and a centre back 

We’ll get them too. Think there is a definite, and sensible, plan of getting good, potentially great,  players if and when we can. 

[lovejoy]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Waugh has mentioned we've discussed him sure but im sure we have discussed 100's of players. 

thats a credible link tbf though.

 

As is hope etc

 

 

[Doops]

I see Ramsey getting judged a bit on how many goals he's scored but a major quality of his is winning the ball back and pressing. Id say that is the type of thing we are prioritizing rather than his goal output. 

[The Butcher]

 

[KennyUtd]

3 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

Bullshit.

[r0cafella]

Team talk

 

Let's put some respect on this threads name. 

[JT24]

If somebody asked me to describe the most pointless job I could imagine. 
 

I would reply back with TeamTalk Journalist. 

[The Prophet]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Team talk

 

Let's put some respect on this threads name. 

 

We're parched in here.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

We're parched in here.

Teamtalk is feeding you salt water 

[Bunk Moreland]

18 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Team talk

 

Let's put some respect on this threads name. 

 

Get more accurate transfer news from reading tea leaves 

[duo]

33 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

yeah that makes no sense - utter rubbish