NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Toon1984]

3 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

And the fact that you are giving no examples of what these ”quality players” are that we should be after, tells me enough about your knowledge. 
 

I dont think DCL is any worse than Wilson, who was offered a new deal and played a part last season. I take you more seriously when you tell me who should we look for 

 

DCL is worse than Wilson. I’ve never seen the former play well and his stats speak for themselves. I’d pick Osula over DCL any day. 

[et tu brute]

3 hours ago, KingArthur said:

And the fact that you are giving no examples of what these ”quality players” are that we should be after, tells me enough about your knowledge. 
 

I dont think DCL is any worse than Wilson, who was offered a new deal and played a part last season. I take you more seriously when you tell me who should we look for 

 

You can look yourself, if you think I'm going to list numerous players just for your satisfaction, then you're kidding yourself. The fact that you can seriously advocate DCL as a player capable of being a step in for Isak shows me you're just clueless. Also that you keep going on about priority positions, ignoring the fact we have just made a 50 million bid for Pedro, shows again that you're clueless. Now jog on and order your DCL pin up for your wall.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by et tu brute

[elbee909]

I would hope DCL would be someone who could step in for himself, at the very least.

[southernmag]

A month of diddly squat happening. Count me worried.

[OverThere]

DCL is shite. I would rather Osula plays more often.

[McDog]

1 hour ago, southernmag said:

A month of diddly squat happening. Count me worried.

 

 

Did the new league year start officially?

[Mazzy]

6 hours ago, Sweee said:

Xavi Simons and Elanga and its a decent window

 

If those are the ONLY two then that's an truly awful window. If they are two of five then it's decent.

[elbee909]

1 hour ago, Mazzy said:

 

If those are the ONLY two then that's an truly awful window. If they are two of five then it's decent.

 

[KingArthur]

3 hours ago, Toon1984 said:

DCL is worse than Wilson. I’ve never seen the former play well and his stats speak for themselves. I’d pick Osula over DCL any day. 

DCL is not worse than current Wilson who offers nothing. 

[KingArthur]

3 hours ago, et tu brute said:

You can look yourself, if you think I'm going to list numerous players just for your satisfaction, then you're kidding yourself. The fact that you can seriously advocate DCL as a player capable of being a step in for Isak shows me you're just clueless. Also that you keep going on about priority positions, ignoring the fact we have just made a 50 million bid for Pedro, shows again that you're clueless. Now jog on and order your DCL pin up for your wall.

 

 

 

Oh ffs. Pedro is not a striker, so yea, dont think I am clueless. 
 

We have been linked with DCL in the past. Howe sees something in him. But maybe you know better than Eddie. 

[Teslact]

I'm not sure why PIF even want to sign off on players. Apart from the 35m/yr allowed loss, all the money being spent is from the club's income not the PIF piggybank. They appointed the CEO - and will appoint his successor - so just let them cook. It's like micromanaging for the sake of it (Eales, Nicks, Howe should all be trusted) but not being able to give the time needed for it.

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Teslact
just "let" them cook

[et tu brute]

1 hour ago, KingArthur said:

Oh ffs. Pedro is not a striker, so yea, dont think I am clueless. 
 

We have been linked with DCL in the past. Howe sees something in him. But maybe you know better than Eddie. 

Where was the bid for him then? I thought not 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Teslact said:

I'm not sure why PIF even want to sign off on players. Apart from the 35m/yr allowed loss, all the money being spent is from the club's income not the PIF piggybank. They appointed the CEO - and will appoint his successor - so just let them cook. It's like micromanaging for the sake of it (Eales, Nicks, Howe should all be trusted) but not being able to give the time needed for it.

 

 

 

It is suggestive of this being a proper investment and not ‘sports-washing’.  Many of our supporters appear to think that without PSR they’d chuck colossal sums at us - I think they were comfortable buying us knowing that PSR existed.  There is no net benefit to KSA in owning us, so we’ll be treated different from the Saudi Pro League or that Club World Cup shite.  

[KingArthur]

2 hours ago, et tu brute said:

Where was the bid for him then? I thought not 

DCL? Last year there were rumours we were asking about him. 
 

Again, clearly we are interested. But maybe they should ask you to find us this quality striker. 
 

https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/13158077/dominic-calvert-lewin-newcastle-end-transfer-talks-for-everton-striker

[loki679]

We could stick that Santa Claus fella from the dressing room pictures up front and he'd be as much use as DCL. I'd genuinely rather play without a striker and hoy another body on in midfield than have that useless waste of space playing for us. 

[Abacus]

Wouldn't be a fan of bringing in DCL, I just don't think he's all that good from what I've seen. But, I could be OK with it if the club sees something that I don't but more importantly because he plays like a striker, even a not particularly good one. 

 

To explain, before Wood came in, the team shape was all over the place without having someone properly up front. Even though he didn't work for us in terms of goals etc, he was pivotal in terms of changing the team shape allowing goals to come from other areas and in that way pretty critical to our upturn in form. Similarly then, if Isak is out for a while or needs a rest, maybe DCL could fill that role.

 

Like I say, I wouldn't want him personally but if we strengthen elsewhere then maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

[McCormick]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It is suggestive of this being a proper investment and not ‘sports-washing’.  Many of our supporters appear to think that without PSR they’d chuck colossal sums at us - I think they were comfortable buying us knowing that PSR existed.  There is no net benefit to KSA in owning us, so we’ll be treated different from the Saudi Pro League or that Club World Cup shite.  

You're right imo and (sorry to sound smug) but I’ve said this all along. This doesn't look like the flashy, short-term sportswashing we’ve seen with the Saudi Pro League or Club World Cup. PIF were fully aware of PSR constraints and still went ahead, which suggests a longer-term, strategic investment rather than a vanity project. That said, it still contributes to improving Saudi Arabia’s global image; it’s sportswashing, just in a more subtle and credible form. This is in stark contrast to the in-your-face stuff that’s coming soon with the Saudi World Cup (I’ve talked to a few people involved and as usual they have wildly expensive and ambitious plans for that).

 

Newcastle United clearly matters to PIF but likely as part of a wider global portfolio. It’s just not a top-tier national priority though.

[r0cafella]

Just now, McCormick said:

You're right imo and (sorry to sound smug) but I’ve said this all along. This doesn't look like the flashy, short-term sportswashing we’ve seen with the Saudi Pro League or Club World Cup. PIF were fully aware of PSR constraints and still went ahead, which suggests a longer-term, strategic investment rather than a vanity project. That said, it still contributes to improving Saudi Arabia’s global image; it’s sportswashing, just in a more subtle and credible form. This is in stark contrast to the in-your-face stuff that’s coming soon with the Saudi World Cup (I’ve talked to a few people involved and as usual they have wildly expensive and ambitious plans for that).

 

Newcastle United clearly matters to PIF but likely as part of a wider global portfolio. It’s just not a top-tier national priority though.

Isn't this hard to nail down? I mean YAR loves spouting about being number 1, kind of a weird thing to keep repeating if we are just a portfolio company. 

 

In terms of these processes they have, I'm assuming these are more investment related than anything else, either way using investment related processes to run a football club sounds bizarre. 

[et tu brute]

1 hour ago, KingArthur said:

DCL? Last year there were rumours we were asking about him. 
 

Again, clearly we are interested. But maybe they should ask you to find us this quality striker. 
 

https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/13158077/dominic-calvert-lewin-newcastle-end-transfer-talks-for-everton-striker

 

Sky sports (Keith Downie) you will be quoting bald cunt Edwards next  

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by et tu brute

[McCormick]

23 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Isn't this hard to nail down? I mean YAR loves spouting about being number 1, kind of a weird thing to keep repeating if we are just a portfolio company. 

 

In terms of these processes they have, I'm assuming these are more investment related than anything else, either way using investment related processes to run a football club sounds bizarre. 

I should probably bore off out of this thread and take it to the PIF one tbh  .

 

Re: being number 1, PIF always makes really bold claims about its projects, but they rarely live up to the grand expectations they set. I could go on about The Line, Neom, Al-Ula, the Haramain railway, the new airport, even a bloody aquarium; all marketed as “the best in the world,” but while some are impressive, none have really reached that level (some not even close).

 

Also using investment processes to run a football club isn’t that bizarre though? Modern clubs are big businesses and need strategic management. Granted, football clubs are different to a lot of other investments but with the right leadership I don’t see why it’s that ridiculous. Maybe I’m not understanding what your concerns are in that regard.

[TRon]

8 hours ago, toon25 said:

Would be very surprised if we signed Kudus

 

 

So would I considering West Ham have already slapped a £70m price tag on him. Just smacks of another month long chase trying to barter them down to £45m only for him to fuck off somewhere else for £50m. 

[HayDen Traces]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

So would I considering West Ham have already slapped a £70m price tag on him. Just smacks of another month long chase trying to barter them down to £45m only for him to fuck off somewhere else for £50m. 

Kudus will go for nearer £60m I reckon. Which his form the season before last would justify

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by HayDen Traces

[JP]

Something has to give sooner or later. Eddie's message at the end of the season appears to have fallen on deaf ears (in the public/fans domain) as we don't hear anything else out of the club.

All we see is reported top targets going elsewhere. When PIF took over they stated they wanted to be 1st, not just top 4 every year but 1st. They're not operating to that tune off the field, by a long stretch.

 

 

[Nucasol]

Just now, JP said:

Something has to give sooner or later. Eddie's message at the end of the season appears to have fallen on deaf ears (in the public/fans domain) as we don't hear anything else out of the club.

All we see is reported top targets going elsewhere. When PIF took over they stated they wanted to be 1st, not just top 4 every year but 1st. They're not operating to that tune off the field, by a long stretch.

 

I think the stadium decision will have a huge bearing and hopefully calming effect. It’s taken an age but, if they have listened to feedback and gone for a bigger option, then we’ll have a game changing once in many generations opportunity to bake ourselves into the elite and bridge that gap to the Cartel Clubs.

[Shearergol]

Can tell the window's going well when the forum is reduced to arguing over DCL.

 

I think if the criteria is "not as pointless as Wilson" then the list is endless. 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Shearergol