NUFC Transfer Rumours

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

My main concern with Replacing Tonali is more system than personal. We saw what happened when we expected Wissa and Nick to be Isak

 

 

I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing how we play next season.  This is massive chance for Howe to adapt and evolve his tactics - Wissa and Woltemade have been poor signings, but I also don't think in Woltemade's case at least that the system helped.

 

I'm hoping Howe and Wilson get the type of player we need to fit into how they want us to play.  No more square pegs.

[macphisto]

15 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

This is it. What does Tonali bring to the team in his current guise? Goals? Not really. Creativity? Not really. Craft? Not really.
His energy and ground coverage is his biggest asset and it's important but replacing that is easier than replacing Bruno's contribution, for example.

If we can spend £50m to bring in someone who matches his energy but chips in with more end product, we're net better off.

It's far from being that simple, otherwise teams would be going for that player and not Tonali.

[Holmesy]

3 minutes ago, macphisto said:

It's far from being that simple, otherwise teams would be going for that player and not Tonali.

Not really. Many managers believe they can get more out of a player or deploy them in a different way, otherwise players like Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood etc would never get moves.
Eddie uses Tonali in his way, De Zerbi would likely try to leverage other areas of his skillset. He's got a rocket of a shot, for example. Maybe De Zerbi sees him more in the Bruno mould with Paulinho sitting.

 

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Not really. Many managers believe they can get more out of a player or deploy them in a different way, otherwise players like Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood etc would never get moves.
Eddie uses Tonali in his way, De Zerbi would likely try to leverage other areas of his skillset. He's got a rocket of a shot, for example. Maybe De Zerbi sees him more in the Bruno mould with Paulinho sitting.

 

Paulhinha was only on loan. Be surprised if they bought him as well.

[macphisto]

4 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Not really. Many managers believe they can get more out of a player or deploy them in a different way, otherwise players like Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood etc would never get moves.
Eddie uses Tonali in his way, De Zerbi would likely try to leverage other areas of his skillset. He's got a rocket of a shot, for example. Maybe De Zerbi sees him more in the Bruno mould with Paulinho sitting.

 

That's not related to my point. My point was that it's far from simple to sell Tonali and buy a player for half the price who will bring more to the team.

 

People are living in dreamland if they think this approach of selling our best players will improve the team. When we say we have to become better sellers, that doesn't mean selling our best players but rather the ones who have limited talent at the right time.

[Holmesy]

Just now, macphisto said:

That's not related to my point. My point was that it's far from simple to sell Tonali and buy a player for half the price who will bring more to the team.

 

People are living in dreamland if they think this approach of selling our best players will improve the team. When we say we have to become better sellers, that doesn't mean selling our best players but rather the ones who have limited talent at the right time.

That's literally the transfer strategy that has been described by the club so if we're in dreamland, so are they.

[macphisto]

Just now, Holmesy said:

That's literally the transfer strategy that has been described by the club so if we're in dreamland, so are they.

And they are, particularly when the CEO talks about 2030.

 

You know, he didn't have to come out with that. I don't hear many other clubs having a vision for 2030 or any other year. Just no need to say it. That's not a one-off too as we've also heard it from the Chairman about where we'll be. 

[Sidg]

The CEO only talked about 2030 because that's the year Saudi thinks it'll be the best country in the world or whatever. It's complete propaganda but he has to say it. Google Vision 2030 and take no stock in it whatsoever.

[STM]

2 minutes ago, Sidg said:

The CEO only talked about 2030 because that's the year Saudi thinks it'll be the best country in the world or whatever. It's complete propaganda but he has to say it. Google Vision 2030 and take no stock in it whatsoever.

 

He was specifically asked about it and given the opportunity to row back and didnt. 

 

He actually told us the reason why. Its because he wants to set a hard to achieve target because he fears that a 10 year target will not motivate people to improve.

[gjohnson]

17 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

That's literally the transfer strategy that has been described by the club so if we're in dreamland, so are they.

well they are in dreamland , as it relies on having a replacement who is as good or very nearly as good in place before allowing departures.

 

Even with Wilson and this new strategy, we've sold debatably one of our best players with no concrete replacement. Again. 

[Mattoon]

5 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

well they are in dreamland , as it relies on having a replacement who is as good or very nearly as good in place before allowing departures.

 

Even with Wilson and this new strategy, we've sold debatably one of our best players with no concrete replacement. Again. 

Day 3 of the transfer window, its gonna be a long summer if you're already freaking out.

[gjohnson]

7 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

Day 3 of the transfer window, its gonna be a long summer if you're already freaking out.

Not in the slightest. I am highlighting that Brightons strategy relies on having someone in place before making a big sale. We are supposedly attempting to move to this model, but like last year, we have made a big sale with nothing lined up. Any replacements now will be more expensive, as they will be aware we technically have funds

[STM]

1 minute ago, gjohnson said:

Not in the slightest. I am highlighting that Brightons strategy relies on having someone in place before making a big sale. We are supposedly attempting to move to this model, but like last year, we have made a big sale with nothing lined up. Any replacements now will be more expensive, as they will be aware we technically have funds

 

No we arent.

 

Some of our fans want us to move to this model. Im dead against it.

 

Weve no idea what our strategy is. We will undoubtedly go for more foreign targets, which will undoubtedly be cheaper but that strategy hardly belongs to Brighton.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

As much as I like Tonali, perhaps getting big money for him would be the best step forward for the wider squad because I feel that midfield needs seriously recalibrated.
 

It doesn’t seem to mesh together well now, how much that’s caused by the system played or the personnel filling it out, it’s a problem nonetheless.

[Mattoon]

17 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

Not in the slightest. I am highlighting that Brightons strategy relies on having someone in place before making a big sale. We are supposedly attempting to move to this model, but like last year, we have made a big sale with nothing lined up. Any replacements now will be more expensive, as they will be aware we technically have funds

 

We have a replacement lined up and he's €30m, just let the summer pan out and enjoy the WC as a welcome distraction.

[Kid Icarus]

[HayDen Traces]

Thought Camara looked poor last night over the 90. He looked too light weight for prem footy and the pace of the game seemed too much for him.

One viewing though, he could be awesome. 

[The Prophet]

L'Équipe reporting we've "stepped up" talks for Camara.

[Ikon]

Just now, The Prophet said:

L'Équipe reporting we've "stepped up" talks for Camara.

Heard the same a few weeks ago. 

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Ikon said:

Heard the same a few weeks ago. 

 

Aye, no doubt it's nothing new. Stepping up interest, tracking, monitoring, exploring a deal. It's all a lot of nothing really.

[Ikon]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Aye, no doubt it's nothing new. Stepping up interest, tracking, monitoring, exploring a deal. It's all a lot of nothing really.

 

Aye, it's quite boring actually because you kind of want it to actually mean something for once  (i guess it does occasionally).

[p_cowell141]

13 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Aye, no doubt it's nothing new. Stepping up interest, tracking, monitoring, exploring a deal. It's all a lot of nothing really.

 

I'm actually in awe of the variety of ways outlets report on a seemingly increase in interest in a player...

 

Monitoring, keeping tabs on, running the rule over, putting feelers out, tracking, exploring, considering, interested in, shortlisting, proposing, weighing up, preparing a bid, getting ready to approach, firming up interest...

 

Second thought, no, it drives me up the ruddy wall.

[JP]

19 minutes ago, Ikon said:

 

Aye, it's quite boring actually because you kind of want it to actually mean something for once  (i guess it does occasionally).

 

 

Prefer the days of teletext when a transfer only made the football page (302 i believe) once it was fully confirmed.

 

Nothing grey in the middle, just pure black or white its there or its not.

 

 

[CheikBoom]

5 minutes ago, p_cowell141 said:

 

I'm actually in awe of the variety of ways outlets report on a seemingly increase in interest in a player...

 

Monitoring, keeping tabs on, running the rule over, putting feelers out, tracking, exploring, considering, interested in, shortlisting, proposing, weighing up, preparing a bid, getting ready to approach, firming up interest...

 

Second thought, no, it drives me up the ruddy wall.

They don't have any news. It's just a constant stream of rehashing the same things to get engagement. 

 

Make a bid > Accepted > Signed... Anything in between is merely rubbish. There's an infatuation in large parts now to have constant updates. The transfer window used to be fairly interesting, but the like's of Romano etc. have made it beyond tedious.  

[HayDen Traces]

Who is everyone's top replacement for Tonali?