NUFC Transfer Rumours

[TRon]

25 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

I would say they are a reasonable level, it’s the £70m Marc Guehi’s we should be avoiding. £35 million players are fine, it’s the level below the elite but very high on potential.

 

I just think that for players that aren't the finished article it's a lot of money with no real guarantee they will make much difference to results. Good prospects maybe, but you'd probably pay half for similar players from abroad.

[wyn davies]

Question for me is , Wilson knackered, Isak occasionally so, where do we go from here, transfers wise .

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Aye yeh I’m not averse to the odd signing with no resale value.  Just needs to make sense. But it has to be an exception. 

 

Yeah, that's all I was saying. Absolutely should be for the odd signing, if the recruitment team and manager rate the player and they can be had for really good value.

[Menace]

38 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Dibling, Evan Ferguson and Chris Rigg should be what we’re targeting. They will cost £100 million but they would be part of our side for the next decade. Similar signings to the Tino/Hall level.

 

That's literally the same mould of signings we're already making. No thanks. We need players to elevate us to the next level. £100M on potential isn't elevating us to the next level.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2024 by Menace

[Monters]

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I just think that for players that aren't the finished article it's a lot of money with no real guarantee they will make much difference to results. Good prospects maybe, but you'd probably pay half for similar players from abroad.

I genuinely believed Ferguson had the potential to be right up there but his drop has been massive, still interested to see how he ends up but I would view it as risk now 

[Keegans Export]

36 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Dibling, Evan Ferguson and Chris Rigg should be what we’re targeting. They will cost £100 million but they would be part of our side for the next decade. Similar signings to the Tino/Hall level.

 

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

I just think that for players that aren't the finished article it's a lot of money with no real guarantee they will make much difference to results. Good prospects maybe, but you'd probably pay half for similar players from abroad.

At the moment we can't drop big fees on potential. 

 

It's either decent money on current ability (eg. Bruno, Botman, potentially someone like Tomori), someone that can come in and improve the starting XI straight away or you look in the sub-£15m market in the hope of either unearthing a gem or someone who can develop into that. If one of the big boys then want to give us £50m+ for one of those talents after a year or two, we accept it and look for the next one.

 

It's frustrating, but short of a substantial increase in revenue, that's the way we're going to have to play it.

[lovejoy]

1 hour ago, Justdoesit said:

 

Dibling and Evan Ferguson on a loan with option to buy would be absolutely class, but not sure it's very likely!

 Why on earth would Southampton ever do that deal?

[madras]

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

 

At the moment we can't drop big fees on potential. 

 

It's either decent money on current ability (eg. Bruno, Botman, potentially someone like Tomori), someone that can come in and improve the starting XI straight away or you look in the sub-£15m market in the hope of either unearthing a gem or someone who can develop into that. If one of the big boys then want to give us £50m+ for one of those talents after a year or two, we accept it and look for the next one.

 

It's frustrating, but short of a substantial increase in revenue, that's the way we're going to have to play it.

Hall ? Tino ?

[Monters]

3 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Question for me is , Wilson knackered, Isak occasionally so, where do we go from here, transfers wise .

Said before it's a tough one when you have one stand-out option but you really need quality backup \ alternatives... Spurs had it for years with Kane, us to a lesser extent with Shearer but most teams played two up front which helped with that one.

Without the big club reputation and less fixtures it's hard single out a target but I do like the Liverpool options and the way they have built and refreshed their forward line recently and that is tough for me to admit as I am no lover of Liverpool... 

[TRon]

Just now, Monters said:

I genuinely believed Ferguson had the potential to be right up there but his drop has been massive, still interested to see how he ends up but I would view it as risk now 

 

 

Yeah he looked fantastic a year ago but he seemed to score all his goals in one game against us.

 

Even our current signings of that ilk like Hall and Tino are still not the finished article, Hall is making defensive mistakes, and Tino is not providing effective overlaps. I am pleased we signed them, but it's a lot of money to pay for half baked players no matter how promising. I think with PSR restrictions we have to make future signings like that from abroad where we will get better value and potentially a bigger upside.

[janpawel]

Didn't Brighton sign 3 fairly priced, young RW's with upside in the Summer? 

 

Maybe they can donate one to us 

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, Monters said:

We would be in a better position to know if we had spent a small sum bringing him to be understudy for a season with aim of forcing his way into the team...

In my opinion Guehi is a better footballer than Tomori but obs a lot more expensive, do you envision flipping Tomori in a couple of seasons? If so then you need the replacements on the radar now not when you are about to do the deals  

 

I agree with the first part. We absolutely should have looked at a highly rated youngster as an understudy this past summer. But that ship has sailed.

 

On the second point, we're not going to just sign players with the view to eventually flipping them all the time.

 

Otherwise, we might as well get to flipping Isak, Bruno, Botman and whoever else other teams show interest in.

 

We're still going to need a strong core of some first team players we ideally keep longer term if we are to be competitive.

[wyn davies]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

I agree with the first part. We absolutely should have looked at a highly rated youngster as an understudy this past summer. But that ship has sailed.

 

On the second point, we're not going to just sign players with the view to eventually flipping them all the time.

 

Otherwise, we might as well get to flipping Isak, Bruno, Botman and whoever else other teams show interest in.

 

We're still going to need a strong core of some first team players we ideally keep longer term if we are to be competitive

Only other option I suppose is the obvious one get Osula into games or write this season off and keep our heads above water.

[Monters]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

I agree with the first part. We absolutely should have looked at a highly rated youngster as an understudy this past summer. But that ship has sailed.

 

On the second point, we're not going to just sign players with the view to eventually flipping them all the time.

 

Otherwise, we might as well get to flipping Isak, Bruno, Botman and whoever else other teams show interest in.

 

We're still going to need a strong core of some first team players we ideally keep longer term if we are to be competitive.

We do indeed - probs got lost in the myriad of posts but you seemed to mentioning resale values and Tomori a lot which prompted the genuine question... apologies if you perceived it as a dig 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, Monters said:

We do indeed - probs got lost in the myriad of posts but you seemed to mentioning resale values and Tomori a lot which prompted the genuine question... apologies if you perceived it as a dig 

 

No worries man. Didn't take it as a dig. Was just trying to explain further.

[Keegans Export]

6 minutes ago, madras said:

Hall ? Tino ?

We have done, but we can't continue to do it.

 

Hall is looking much better and Tino is still getting there but when you consider they cost (ballpark) the same as Bruno, Botman, players who come right in and lift the whole side, we can't keep spending that money on players who might be the finished article in a couple of seasons.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

We have done, but we can't continue to do it.

 

Hall is looking much better and Tino is still getting there but when you consider they cost (ballpark) the same as Bruno, Botman, players who come right in and lift the whole side, we can't keep spending that money on players who might be the finished article in a couple of seasons.

 

 

Yep, there are two scenarios where we could justify making these sort of signings in the future:

 

- PSR restrictions are dropped and we are allowed to spend big on as many players as we want to improve our squad.

- We downgrade our expectations of Europe and are happy with a midtable finish.

[kingxlnc]

We need a French Revolution type of January to salvage this season - 4-5 signings to pad out the squad and give us proper options

 

Where is the equivalent of Sissoko for 2m

Or a Debuchy type (but for RW) - maybe Tonali/Bruno have a best friend that can play RW (like Cabaye to Debuchy)

Get rid of Trippier, Almiron, Targett, Wilson (if anyone will take him)

 

Need to get RW, RCB, ST at the very least. 

I don't mind selling a purple (preferably Gordon) in the summer but we have to get someone in now

 

[SteV]

10 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

We need a French Revolution type of January to salvage this season - 4-5 signings to pad out the squad and give us proper options

 

You’re going to be disappointed…

[Crimson Cardigan]

15 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

We need a French Revolution type of January to salvage this season - 4-5 signings to pad out the squad and give us proper options

 

Where is the equivalent of Sissoko for 2m

Or a Debuchy type (but for RW) - maybe Tonali/Bruno have a best friend that can play RW (like Cabaye to Debuchy)

Get rid of Trippier, Almiron, Targett, Wilson (if anyone will take him)

 

Need to get RW, RCB, ST at the very least. 

I don't mind selling a purple (preferably Gordon) in the summer but we have to get someone in now

 

Mate, we will see one in one out, IF we’re lucky.

[Zero]

To be fair he isn’t wrong, we need that type of reinforcement if we want to have an exceptional second half of the season

[AyeDubbleYoo]

A CB and a forward would be incredible TBH, but not expecting anything really. 

[SUPERTOON]

I’d be more than happy to get a few out the door in preparation for the summer window tbh.

[kingxlnc]

I agree we probably won’t get that level but after three dry windows in a row, feel like we really need it 

[jonny1403]

3 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

£25 million for Tomori, is absurdly low for a player of that calibre and experience. And he isn't on high wages currently. 

 

Arsenal just did a similar deal for Merino at £30 million. He is 28. Trossard was also 29 when they paid £27 million for him last year.

 

Spurs just spent £60 million(!!!) on Solanke. He is 27.

 

 

 

 

Some odd examples given there given the regret shown by Arsenal/Spurs fans on the Merino/Solanke signings