SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: If Chelsea selling a hotel they already own to themselves is legitimate then something is seriously wrong It was legitimate, and they’ve had to amend the rules as a result. But that was on the PL not Chelsea. If we found a valid loophole such as that, I would expect us to use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, SteV said: It was legitimate, and they’ve had to amend the rules as a result. But that was on the PL not Chelsea. If we found a valid loophole such as that, I would expect us to use it. They still haven't amended the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They still haven't amended the rules. Hopefully everyone else has ran out of hotels then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 They also sold their women's team didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, SteV said: It was legitimate, and they’ve had to amend the rules as a result. But that was on the PL not Chelsea. If we found a valid loophole such as that, I would expect us to use it. I’d be astonished if we did. The ownership since day one has shown an intent not only to stay within the rules, but within the spirit of the rules. I’d be surprised if they’re even looking for loopholes. Complete speculation: I suspect that as part of getting past the PL FPPT the owners likely agreed to do exactly the above. ‘Separation’ was obviously bollocks (PIF is a part of the state of KSA). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, SteV said: It was legitimate, and they’ve had to amend the rules as a result. But that was on the PL not Chelsea. If we found a valid loophole such as that, I would expect us to use it. They still get the ongoing profits from the hotel they 'sold' Totaly legit, mate. People always buy a property, accept all the costs and let the previous owner keep all the incoming money in perpetuity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’d be astonished if we did. The ownership since day one has shown an intent not only to stay within the rules, but within the spirit of the rules. I’d be surprised if they’re even looking for loopholes. Complete speculation: I suspect that as part of getting past the PL FPPT the owners likely agreed to do exactly the above. ‘Separation’ was obviously bollocks (PIF is a part of the state of KSA). Well the Greek keeper shenanigans was sailing fairly close to the wind (obv not the only club doing that kind of thing) so if that wasn’t a ‘loophole’ as such, it wasn’t far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, loki679 said: They still get the ongoing profits from the hotel they 'sold' Totaly legit, mate. People always buy a property, accept all the costs and let the previous owner keep all the incoming money in perpetuity ‘Legitimate’ as in according to the PSR rule book, obviously not by any normal, sensible measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, SteV said: Well the Greek keeper shenanigans was sailing fairly close to the wind (obv not the only club doing that kind of thing) so if that wasn’t a ‘loophole’ as such, it wasn’t far off. Agreed, but that was to avoid punishment through something self-inflicted. I still don’t think it was a coincidence that those with a management contract to manage the club were gone sharpish afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I still don't think we have used the Saudis in a commercial capacity enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Any news on Turkish lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Ben said: We've only got one Miley left Where's Mason gone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Shearergol said: Where's Mason gone? That we could use in the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, toon25 said: They also sold their women's team didn't they? IIRC only 10% of it - for 20m - so valuing it at 200m, which is infinitely beyond ridiculous even for the best team since they had no stadium ownership etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Ben said: That we could use in the first team More likely to use Mason before we ever tried Jamie tbh. Miles apart in quality. I get you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: More likely to use Mason before we ever tried Jamie tbh. Miles apart in quality. I get you though. TBF I can't even think of any of our youth players that we could use this season. Like a few people my main worry is we have a weaker squad now than before the window started, if the season fizzels out and we don't qualify for Europe we could lose our better players which would mean a huge rebuild and next season turns into write off. As we stand here now we are in a fantastic position, not building on it is a mistake IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 hours ago, bobbydazzla said: Catts for me like That would make for a great guess the season quiz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 37 minutes ago, SteV said: There’s a difference between ignoring the rules and finding legitimate ways round them though, which is what Chelsea have done. And tbf, the whole signing of the Greek keeper was a massive dodge round the rules by us. Well that Greek thing was clearly dodgy, but didn't actually benefit us......we gave Forest what...90m last I heard to bail them out of a hole and us out of a hole. Still don't understand how it worked....but this Vlachadimos gets 10m more expensive every time he's mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 One of these days we might have an actual transfer rumour to put in this sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Ben said: TBF I can't even think of any of our youth players that we could use this season. Like a few people my main worry is we have a weaker squad now than before the window started, if the season fizzels out and we don't qualify for Europe we could lose our better players which would mean a huge rebuild and next season turns into write off. As we stand here now we are in a fantastic position, not building on it is a mistake IMO Next season might even turn into a relegation scrap. What if Howe walks? What if the Saudis sell up? We may as well dissolve the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Next season might even turn into a relegation scrap. What if Howe walks? What if the Saudis sell up? We may as well dissolve the club. Strange response to some very legitimate points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: That would make for a great guess the season quiz. 09/10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: That would make for a great guess the season quiz. 09-10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Bearing in mind that , Wilson, Miggy., Tripps should of been sold previous windows albeit with hindsight when at their top for us, should Murphy have been sold this window?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Did we bid for Elanga yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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