Joe1984 Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 1 minute ago, healthyaddiction said: The debt doesn't matter. Though I'm sure I've seen they don't have much PSR headroom without sales. Probably why they're struggling to get to Mbeumo deal done. How can the debt not matter? Where's the line between a club being sustainable and bankrupt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 Just now, Joe1984 said: How can the debt not matter? Where's the line between a club being sustainable and bankrupt? Because as long as they make a profit there golden which they will with there commercial revenues. It's so stacked on the cartels favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 1 minute ago, andycap said: I just hope we have people who can sell the club to the player well enough when we negotiate. Mbuemo wanted a hefty wedge but with a bit of persuading with champions league football and guaranteed first team starter surely we could've gotten that wage down a bit maybes added incentive based clauses. I don't think a player can afford the club... And that's my bad joke quota for the day filled! 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 1 minute ago, andycap said: I just hope we have people who can sell the club to the player well enough when we negotiate. Mbuemo wanted a hefty wedge but with a bit of persuading with champions league football and guaranteed first team starter surely we could've gotten that wage down a bit maybes added incentive based clauses. Depends what his starting point is/was. If it’s miles away from what we’re prepared to offer, it’s a waste of time of bothering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 The club doesn’t even need to try that hard to sell itself, Eddie will get you playing for your national team, you’ll win silverware and you’ll be adored. The other lads love it here and there’s a great team spirit where we try to hold onto our players. If players don’t buy into that, they can hoy themselves into the sea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, LFEE said: You’ve just named the teams with all the PSR headroom. Everyone else is quiet. Signings so far, hardly quiet 4 - Brighton, Burnley, Chelsea, Man City 3 - Brentford, Liverpool, Spurs 2 - Bournemouth 1 - Villa, Everton, Leeds, Man Utd, Newcastle, Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves 0 - Arsenal, Palace, Fulham, Forest Edited June 20, 2025 by JigsawGoesToPieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 Just now, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Signings so far 4 - Brighton, Burnley, Chelsea, Man City 3 - Brentford, Liverpool, Spurs 2 - Bournemouth 1 - Villa, Everton, Leeds, Man Utd, Newcastle, Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves 0 - Arsenal, Palace, Fulham, Forest Exactly 👍🏻 Some who’ve signed more have lost players also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Nick Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 highly doubtful we get any business done in June, luckily July is close, probably new PSR period will bring more action... I wouldnt sell any important player Livramento or Isak, unless we can force obscene offer out of Big 6. we have more than enough task to strengthen the first 11 and the bench especially for next season where we will have lot more games, injuries, fatigue etc. to replace outgoing crucial players would be too much extra stuff to deal with especially without a proper DoF in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 2 hours ago, SteV said: Who have Spurs signed? Tel from Bayerb Danso from Brentford Vuscokvic from Hajuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 Any pre July movement for us would be Villa (?) and I’ve a feeling WHU as they seem to be ripping it up and starting again (?) Maybe Forest also (?) … sure others will know better who’s borderline PSR… Everton, Burnley and Leicester? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 3 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Tel from Bayerb Danso from Brentford Vuscokvic from Hajuk Had two of them already though, so in terms of how much ‘stronger’ they are from the end of last season, it’s basically negligible (unless you want to count the manager, which I suppose is fair enough) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, SteV said: Had two of them already though, so in terms of how much ‘stronger’ they are from the end of last season, it’s basically negligible (unless you want to count the manager, which I suppose is fair enough) Exactly… Liverpool and Man City aside it’s debatable who’s massively strengthened. Chelsea I guess but they were ahead of us as stated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowgatePigeon Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 4 hours ago, LFEE said: Lee Ryder and The Chronicle are the fucking pits. They haven't got a clue. You might as well empty a bag of Scrabble tiles into a bowl of Alphabeti Spaghetti and then pour the contents of the bowl on top of a wordsearch if you want to read a more accurate transfer report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 2 hours ago, andycap said: Because as long as they make a profit there golden which they will with there commercial revenues. It's so stacked on the cartels favour. It should still matter. For example Man Ut’d debt has only increased. There should be a clause that says you must pay off a percentage of your loan each year, and another that says your debt can only be your annual income multiplied by so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 Also if their sponsors suddenly decide to not renew or massively reduce their payments (unlikely I know but still a possibility) then, with all that debt they would be in grave danger of going under. Now we, with no debt and with some of the wealthiest owners in the world. Who are not allowed to invest however much they want into the club that they own. Can't push on in case they decide to sell up and leave us in debt and unable to finance the club as it is and thus would be in danger of going under. Hold on...... This is looking suspiciously like double standards here.... Could this whole PSR thing just be to protect the previous bigger clubs and actually have nothing to do with sustainability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 27 minutes ago, Stifler said: It should still matter. For example Man Ut’d debt has only increased. There should be a clause that says you must pay off a percentage of your loan each year, and another that says your debt can only be your annual income multiplied by so much. It should matter but doesn’t, profit and loss are all.   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 This thread is absolutely minging. Can we actually save it for transfer rumours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 Seeing Clark and Carroll threads bumped makes me think we’re signing back up home grown players for CL would be progress at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Exactly… Liverpool and Man City aside it’s debatable who’s massively strengthened. Chelsea I guess but they were ahead of us as stated. Also Chelsea & Man City have only done their business this early coz they are in the club World Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 I dunno if it’s the heat, but I don’t see us signing anyone who another club wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 (edited) Not sure if serious but CL football, massive support, Eddie Howe and staff, a general upward trajectory are all positives in our favour. PSR restricts us, our initial signing strategy were upcoming players abroad (Bruno, Botman, Isak) or highly rated English players (Hall, Gordon and Livra) which is risky. Tonali was the only young established signing, the other being an older Trippier. Now we’re back at the top we seem to be looking at established players (Guehi, Mbeumo) to take us to the next level but we don’t have the finances to match. I’d go back to the old strategy that got us here. Edited June 20, 2025 by SAK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 After everything I've read, i've some to a new conclusion on all of this now. Basically, to me, it looks like we have a little bit of PSR headroom before June 30th, we are looking to use that, but we are holding our cards close to our chest to see what happens at Villa. If they get close to the deadline and need bailing out, we'll pounce and get a good deal for a player who is on out "list", if they get out of it a different way, I think we'll see either Trafford or Pedro announced before the deadline to use up the leeway we have left instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 11 minutes ago, M1tche said: After everything I've read, i've some to a new conclusion on all of this now. Basically, to me, it looks like we have a little bit of PSR headroom before June 30th, we are looking to use that, but we are holding our cards close to our chest to see what happens at Villa. If they get close to the deadline and need bailing out, we'll pounce and get a good deal for a player who is on out "list", if they get out of it a different way, I think we'll see either Trafford or Pedro announced before the deadline to use up the leeway we have left instead Ramsay was the rumour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 11 minutes ago, M1tche said: After everything I've read, i've some to a new conclusion on all of this now. Basically, to me, it looks like we have a little bit of PSR headroom before June 30th, we are looking to use that, but we are holding our cards close to our chest to see what happens at Villa. If they get close to the deadline and need bailing out, we'll pounce and get a good deal for a player who is on out "list", if they get out of it a different way, I think we'll see either Trafford or Pedro announced before the deadline to use up the leeway we have left instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted June 20, 2025 Share Posted June 20, 2025 If we miss out on Guehi, then I hope we go big with a suprise signing at CB, like we did with Pedro and Isak. Think a proper world class singing would lift the team wonders. No idea who this could be mind Also, what about Scalvini? Could we do similar to Tino and buy him after an ACL injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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