KaKa Posted yesterday at 14:25 Share Posted yesterday at 14:25 (edited) 11 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’d rather proven quality than imagination in all honesty. Or at least a mix of the two with heavy focus on the former. We can’t be taking wild punts; just do what we’ve been doing thus far that’s brought us from relegation fodder to CL-place contenders. Let other teams with less lofty ambitions take the risks; we can’t afford many seasons without European football. Younger, proven stars with great attitudes who can grow with us (like Gordon, Bruno, Tonali, Botman, Livramento). I don’t see why we’re desperate to be another Brighton? People will say PSR etc. but all of those players I’ve listed would go for double the amount we bought them for; we just don’t want to sell them. We have the foundations of a very strong team, that really just needs filling out with more quality. I think this can be achieved by bringing in young players with high potential that can contribute, but don't come with the big fees of more proven players. Focusing more on adding the more proven players will not bee affordable if we are to keep key players. To do that we will need to sell one of our key players for big money, which would then likely have to be Isak, Bruno or Gordon. Brighton do not have the quality of established players we already have at the club, and so I don't think it's comparable. It's about adding to the current group in order to give us a better chance to compete, without losing any of them. This will mean some element of risk needs to be taken, and so the scouting will need to be on point. Edited yesterday at 14:26 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted yesterday at 14:31 Share Posted yesterday at 14:31 I'd much rather have Pope than Dubravka as our number 2. Better shot stopper, sweeper keeper, 4 years younger, didn't leave to man u etc etc. Though I do appreciate what Dubs gives us by with the ball at his feet Thats assuming we buy a keeper in the summer, which is essential for me imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 14:35 Share Posted yesterday at 14:35 I'd start popey like over dubs still think he's the better keeper overall. Is the keeper I'm most confident with to pull out a worldie to keep us in the game, and help our lack of pace at the back by coming out and clearing. Dubs is better passer that's it. But of late he's not getting used much in our passing build ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 14:38 Share Posted yesterday at 14:38 Also I'd let schar tripps willock Wilson and Longstaff go, and rebuild with what ever money we can get from Willock and Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 14:40 Share Posted yesterday at 14:40 51 minutes ago, The Prophet said: According to Baldwards: New contracts for Krafth and Dubs. Contract talks with Schar are progressing. We're in a "position of strength" going into the summer. Little chance of any key players leaving. Focus on signing young, emerging talent rather than established stars. The word “key” is doing some heavy lifting there, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted yesterday at 14:44 Share Posted yesterday at 14:44 30 minutes ago, jack j said: Not sure how dubravka and krafth can be called "key" I'd only be keeping Schar out of the 3 of them mentioned and he'd be our back up It's positive spin bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted yesterday at 15:00 Share Posted yesterday at 15:00 17 minutes ago, andycap said: Also I'd let schar tripps willock Wilson and Longstaff go, and rebuild with what ever money we can get from Willock and Longstaff. Schar will stay, but agree on the rest. We need a little bit of a reshuffle in midfield I think, desperate for a backup striker, and as we know RW and CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted yesterday at 15:04 Share Posted yesterday at 15:04 Given Lascelles is likely off we really need to keep Schar, but hopefully next season we will have someone we are phasing in to be his successor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 15:23 Share Posted yesterday at 15:23 22 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Schar will stay, but agree on the rest. We need a little bit of a reshuffle in midfield I think, desperate for a backup striker, and as we know RW and CB. I'd keep lascelles offers us more leadership a beast in the opposition box plus doesn't let his standards slip. Schar is finished as a premier league player now in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 15:25 Share Posted yesterday at 15:25 Maybe bring Alex Murphy into the main squad for schar at seasons end. He seems to be playing regularly at Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted yesterday at 15:26 Share Posted yesterday at 15:26 1 minute ago, andycap said: I'd keep lascelles offers us more leadership a beast in the opposition box plus doesn't let his standards slip. Schar is finished as a premier league player now in my opinion. #andycrap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 15:27 Share Posted yesterday at 15:27 Just now, Groundhog63 said: #andycrap Thanks lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted yesterday at 15:38 Share Posted yesterday at 15:38 1 hour ago, janpawel said: I'd much rather have Pope than Dubravka as our number 2. Better shot stopper, sweeper keeper, 4 years younger, didn't leave to man u etc etc. Though I do appreciate what Dubs gives us by with the ball at his feet Thats assuming we buy a keeper in the summer, which is essential for me imo I don't think Pope would want to be second choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted yesterday at 15:50 Share Posted yesterday at 15:50 49 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Schar will stay, but agree on the rest. We need a little bit of a reshuffle in midfield I think, desperate for a backup striker, and as we know RW and CB. Aye, for the way we set up, I think another CM is key. Not as key as RW and CB so I’m not confident we will target one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted yesterday at 15:51 Share Posted yesterday at 15:51 13 minutes ago, vexred said: I don't think Pope would want to be second choice. Also we'd still get a semi-decent fee for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 15:54 Share Posted yesterday at 15:54 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Also we'd still get a semi-decent fee for him. Will only have one year left on his contract come the summer, so not sure about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted yesterday at 16:00 Share Posted yesterday at 16:00 21 minutes ago, vexred said: I don't think Pope would want to be second choice. I don't think he should be. I reckon we'll only keep them both if we are delaying signing a younger keeper and putting our transfer spend in other areas of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted yesterday at 16:12 Share Posted yesterday at 16:12 So another year with an already slow and declining defence and a keeper who was supposed to move to Saudi in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted yesterday at 16:16 Share Posted yesterday at 16:16 3 minutes ago, Menace said: So another year with an already slow and declining defence and a keeper who was supposed to move to Saudi in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 16:16 Share Posted yesterday at 16:16 I think we'll end up signing a goalkeeper in the summer. Somebody young, with high potential, who I'd expect to compete straight away for number 1 spot (looking at you Lucas Chevalier). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted yesterday at 16:16 Share Posted yesterday at 16:16 Pope is miles better than Dubravka. At least he's miles better as a goalkeeper, which is the main metric I judge my goalkeepers by. If you want the best footballer in goal, put Tonali or Bruno there. Yes, being competent with your kicking is a good bonus but it's getting massively overplayed by every team right now and the pendulum needs to swing back a bit the other way. Pope is the better goalkeeper, he should be ahead of Dubravka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted yesterday at 16:18 Share Posted yesterday at 16:18 Just now, Chris_R said: Pope is miles better than Dubravka. At least he's miles better as a goalkeeper, which is the main metric I judge my goalkeepers by. If you want the best footballer in goal, put Tonali or Bruno there. Yes, being competent with your kicking is a good bonus but it's getting massively overplayed by every team right now and the pendulum needs to swing back a bit the other way. Pope is the better goalkeeper, he should be ahead of Dubravka. Neither are good enough for us. One because he's not a very good footballer and the other because he's not a very good goalkeeper. Neither should be our number 1 keeper, but either of them could be number 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 16:19 Share Posted yesterday at 16:19 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Pope is miles better than Dubravka. At least he's miles better as a goalkeeper, which is the main metric I judge my goalkeepers by. If you want the best footballer in goal, put Tonali or Bruno there. Yes, being competent with your kicking is a good bonus but it's getting massively overplayed by every team right now and the pendulum needs to swing back a bit the other way. Pope is the better goalkeeper, he should be ahead of Dubravka. I hold both in a similar regard now. Both are good, have their strengths but also fully expect a clanger now and then. Ready to upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted yesterday at 16:24 Share Posted yesterday at 16:24 (edited) Pope is significantly better like. We’ve got into this weird position because he’s been injured and Dubs has done OK. But Pope is in an entirely different bracket IMO. I am biased against Dubs because of the Man Utd thing TBF. Edited yesterday at 16:25 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted yesterday at 16:31 Share Posted yesterday at 16:31 This season Dubs has been better (quite significantly imo) and has rightly kept his place, if we're picking them on their peak, Pope is better, though Prime Dubs under Rafa runs him close imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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