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35 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I’m absolutely baffled by reading here and there where people say ”where would Cunha fit in? He wouldn’t fit in” and so on… 

 

Looking at it from a pure footballing perspective, he walks into our team, as well as making those around him more dangerous . As a team we would improve massively by having someone like him. He would be game changing for us . 
 

He is extremely versatile and would also make us much less predictable in so many ways. We need more technical ability and X factor in the team. He has great pace and good physical attributes and more importantly, end product. 
 

62m is obviously a lot of cash, but imo he would easily be worth it. iF he did sign for us I could see him going up another level or two as well. Imagine the extra space players like Gordon and Isak and others would get by having him in and around. Never mind a closer progressive forward pass for Tonali and Bruno.  Eddie would easily get the team flow with him in it, no fixed positions as on paper.

 

Ive been so so impressed by him for years, but back then he used to do everything great but that last little bit was missing then. 

 

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't love him here. But if we spend 62 million on him I assume that means we cannot afford a right winger as well. So can he play RW? I'd trust Eddie to convert him into a fully fledged right sided player but he hasn't really played there in the past.

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I'm always a bit baffled by the Kyle Walker Peters suggestions. 

 

A bit like when Max Aarons was always linked to big clubs despite constantly being in the worst club in the league.

 

The only positive I can see is he covers 2 positions but I'm not sure he'd be any more useful than Lloyd Kelly turned out to be

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I wouldn’t sign him to play as a RW, and I don’t think Eddie and co plan to use him there either if we were to sign him. He could easily play in a midfield three as the most offensive of the three. That doesn’t mean that he’s a “fixed 10” which he obviously can play as we all know. Eddie likes fluidity, interchanges. 
 

It’s a lot of money, but for the quality and his versatility it really isn’t that much when you consider that he’d be one of our best players from the off as well as giving us tons of options with his versatility. Never mind giving us something different in many ways.

 

Sign him and we don’t necessarily need to spend 30-40m on a decent striker. Strikers that also are very difficult to find, especially the ones willing to sit on the bench a lot of the time. Getting Cunha in doesn’t mean that we can’t get a RW. Also, just because we need a RW doesn’t mean that it’s got to be a 50-60m Mbeumo. 
We don’t really know what we can/can’t afford. CL and all that makes a big difference too if we make it. 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, sempuki said:

If Eddie had unlimited funds would he be after the likes of Trafford, Huijsen, Dibling and Delap? Think we might need to get a bit creative unless we qualify for the CL.

That’s about £165m of talent, hardly cheap (not saying we have an unlimited budget).

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22 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I wouldn’t sign him to play as a RW, and I don’t think Eddie and co plan to use him there either if we were to sign him. He could easily play in a midfield three as the most offensive of the three. That doesn’t mean that he’s a “fixed 10” which he obviously can play as we all know. Eddie likes fluidity, interchanges. 
 

It’s a lot of money, but for the quality and his versatility it really isn’t that much when you consider that he’d be one of our best players from the off as well as giving us tons of options with his versatility. Never mind giving us something different in many ways.

 

Sign him and we don’t necessarily need to spend 30-40m on a decent striker. Strikers that also are very difficult to find, especially the ones willing to sit on the bench a lot of the time. Getting Cunha in doesn’t mean that we can’t get a RW. Also, just because we need a RW doesn’t mean that it’s got to be a 50-60m Mbeumo. 
We don’t really know what we can/can’t afford. CL and all that makes a big difference too if we make it. 

I just think it would be daft to spend £60m+ on a player to either break up our current midfield three, backup Isak or play out of position on the right. 

 

It feels like the sort of move Man Utd or Chelsea would make - signing a really good player (and he is undeniably a very good player) without a really clear idea of how to use him. 

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1 hour ago, joeyt said:

I'm always a bit baffled by the Kyle Walker Peters suggestions. 

 

A bit like when Max Aarons was always linked to big clubs despite constantly being in the worst club in the league.

 

The only positive I can see is he covers 2 positions but I'm not sure he'd be any more useful than Lloyd Kelly turned out to be

I think he's a lot better than you belief he's quick good technique play either flank never seems injured for long periods and he's on a free. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

I just think it would be daft to spend £60m+ on a player to either break up our current midfield three, backup Isak or play out of position on the right. 

 

It feels like the sort of move Man Utd or Chelsea would make - signing a really good player (and he is undeniably a very good player) without a really clear idea of how to use him. 


Yeah let’s expect our midfield three to play every game at the highest level, with even more games next season. Also without competition more or less as it is now. Even then, we lack in midfield at times in different scenarios. I’m 100% certain that Cunha would improve our midfield/attack VERY much overall over a whole season. Absolutely zero doubt about that. While also being cover for Isak 

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1 hour ago, Ikon said:

I’m absolutely baffled by reading here and there where people say ”where would Cunha fit in? He wouldn’t fit in” and so on… 

But where would he fit in without changing the system?

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If we signed Cunha for £60m and used him as a CM option I’d be so angry. Far better signings we can make who help us in CM. Nothing for me jumps out as him being the gear shift we require and I don’t believe any of the links.


His agent will be desperate for a move so going to be touted for every club going.

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Cunha would be class and would immediately make us a top 4 staple.

 

Having someone quality who can step in for Isak, Gordon, Bruno, Joelinton and possibly Murphy is a game changer.

 

He also provides goals from midfield, something that we lack in real abundance.

 

And for those saying he's a bit of a cunt, reference Gordon, Anthony.

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2 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

But where would he fit in without changing the system?


It’s not like we play with an entirely flat and straight midfield three even if it looks like that on paper. I have zero doubt that Cunha can play on the left of the midfield three with more license to roam forward and with less defensive responsibility with Bruno and Tonali being slightly withdrawn/less offensive. Even then, all of our midfielders make forward runs and interchange every now and then. 
 

IF (big IF) we go for him and get him, I’m absolutely certain that Eddie would make it work, easily. 

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1 hour ago, sempuki said:

If Eddie had unlimited funds would he be after the likes of Trafford, Huijsen, Dibling and Delap? Think we might need to get a bit creative unless we qualify for the CL.

 

Probably not but we haven't got unlimited funds. So not really sure as to what you're getting at here.

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2 minutes ago, Ikon said:


Yeah let’s expect our midfield three to play every game at the highest level, with even more games next season. Also without competition more or less as it is now. Even then, we lack in midfield at times in different scenarios. I’m 100% certain that Cunha would improve our midfield/attack VERY much overall over a whole season. Absolutely zero doubt about that. While also being cover for Isak 

Like I say, he's an excellent player but would I spend that money on someone specifically to rotate with our current midfield 3 or cover Isak? No I wouldn't, I'd want someone who (injuries aside) is going to start 30+ games.

 

If I'm after someone to support the midfield three (which I hope we will be) I don't want to spend that much money, likewise if I'm looking for someone to backup Isak.

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1 minute ago, Ikon said:


It’s not like we play with an entirely flat and straight midfield three even if it looks like that on paper. I have zero doubt that Cunha can play on the left of the midfield three with more license to roam forward and with less defensive responsibility with Bruno and Tonali being slightly withdrawn/less offensive.  

Not flat, but its a strict system. Not sure I want Cunha anywhere near our midfield three. Hope wrote he had up his defensive game massively to play there.

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5 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

If we signed Cunha for £60m and used him as a CM option I’d be so angry. Far better signings we can make who help us in CM. Nothing for me jumps out as him being the gear shift we require and I don’t believe any of the links.


His agent will be desperate for a move so going to be touted for every club going.


He wouldn’t have to play like one of our traditional CM exactly in the same way as our current ones do. it’s all about how we shift the balance.  We play with a 3, we can easily accommodate Cunha to work. It’s like he would be a typical CM in a “442”. Formations aren’t set in stone when you look at how players actually flow and move around the pitch. Except for Bruce maybe. 

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Cunha is easily capable of playing in a Howe number 8, we already know he can play left wing, he's more than decent up front and would offer us something different to Isak. He hasn't played much at RW but I'd take a stab in the dark and say we could play him there in some capacity without it being an issue.

 

The kid is mustard and I'm convinced he'd quite quickly bump Joelinton out of the side, who can also play RW by the way.

 

 

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                       Isak

 

Gordon                         Joelinton 

 

            Cunha         Bruno

                      Tonali

 

Aye that's canny formidable. [emoji38]

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