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2 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

The center forward slot will be filled by Calvert Lewin. We won’t get Delap imo.

This is your opinion right? You don't have any inside information for this ?

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4 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

The center forward slot will be filled by Calvert Lewin. We won’t get Delap imo.

Bit defeatist, there's always hope, be surprised Calvert Lewin, think we all could be surprised in the summer.

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49 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Mbeumbo would be one if want to make a statement. I don't think he's actually in that high of demand. 

 


Market closed off for him really. Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal don’t need him as a priority. Chelsea have countless wingers with more coming. Man Utd won’t be signing wingers. Spurs and Villa have players tied up in those positions already, so would need to sell first.

 

Probably could see Brentford selling for max £50m, because they can’t drive a higher price.

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57 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Bit defeatist, there's always hope, be surprised Calvert Lewin, think we all could be surprised in the summer.

I’m not sure it is defeatist. In a non psr world Delap would snap our hand off, but I very much doubt we have the budget to be signing a £30m back up striker when we have other priorities.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


Market closed off for him really. Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal don’t need him as a priority. Chelsea have countless wingers with more coming. Man Utd won’t be signing wingers. Spurs and Villa have players tied up in those positions already, so would need to sell first.

 

Probably could see Brentford selling for max £50m, because they can’t drive a higher price.

Always thought if Salah left Liverpool Mbeumo would be his replacement. He’s ideal for us. I’m hoping he’s our guy. Can fill in and play as CF too.

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1 hour ago, lovejoy said:

The center forward slot will be filled by Calvert Lewin. We won’t get Delap imo.

Must admit I'm warming to the idea of DCL, mainly due to the fact we're going to need quality and quantity for next season. The main attraction is the lack of a hefty transfer fee tbh, he'll obviously be on big money if he signs but we need to box clever and getting him in on a free fills a slot without the need to shell out £30m+ on a back-up. We'll have to take advantage of the free transfers and loans this summer and DCL could be a classic example of how we do it

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Just now, midds said:

Must admit I'm warming to the idea of DCL, mainly due to the fact we're going to need quality and quantity for next season. The main attraction is the lack of a hefty transfer fee tbh, he'll obviously be on big money if he signs but we need to box clever and getting him in on a free fills a slot without the need to shell out £30m+ on a back-up. We'll have to take advantage of the free transfers and loans this summer and DCL could be a classic example of how we do it

I'm so torn about DCL. his wage demands would be high as mentioned and his goal record is thoroughly uninspiring. Two good seasons in his career which feels like an eternity ago. 

 

Surely we can do better?

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1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

I'm so torn about DCL. his wage demands would be high as mentioned and his goal record is thoroughly uninspiring. Two good seasons in his career which feels like an eternity ago. 

 

Surely we can do better?

We probably could but a signing a better player would probably mean a biggish fee and eat into the budget so we compromise in a different position. Plus it can't have been any fun at all playing CF in Dyche's Everton for the last couple of years. I'm thinking it could well be a good move for everyone.

 

If he stays fit. That's also an obvious concern 

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1 minute ago, midds said:

We probably could but a signing a better player would probably mean a biggish fee and eat into the budget so we compromise in a different position. Plus it can't have been any fun at all playing CF in Dyche's Everton for the last couple of years. I'm thinking it could well be a good move for everyone.

 

If he stays fit. That's also an obvious concern 

Yeah I'm constantly having to remind myself that this is likely a summer of compromise, Rafas bed sheet analogy in transfer window form if you will. 

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3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Yeah I'm constantly having to remind myself that this is likely a summer of compromise, Rafas bed sheet analogy in transfer window form if you will. 

Exactly. He's not the dream signing by any stretch but I think it's a sensible one. He fills a position we need and he's a 'free' transfer, we can look to shell out bigger to fill other holes in the squad with a couple of loans in there too

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13 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I'm so torn about DCL. his wage demands would be high as mentioned and his goal record is thoroughly uninspiring. Two good seasons in his career which feels like an eternity ago. 

 

Surely we can do better?

The potential is to sign him up, get a season’s worth of goals via European, cup and newly promoted teams, then flip him to Wet Spam, Saudi or another newly promoted club for £15-20m. He’d be about 30 and the age we *should* have sold Callum Wilson at.

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As a backup option DCL would be decent I think. Whenever we play Everton he's always a handful and causes us problems, plus you'd think Howe would get more out of him and get better service to him than he was getting under Dyche. Not every signing can be a £30m+ player to go into the starting eleven, we need a squad of reliable players

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I like the idea of having a target man option, where we can be a bit more direct, but I can't see us signing DCL.

 

His injury record and availability v his wages wouldn't be worth the risk.

 

Delap is more likely to join a club where he'd be first choice (Forest would be a good fit), but he'd still get plenty of game time here and the pathway to the England team is there for all to see.

 

It'll probably end up being neither. I suppose it depends how much we intend to sink into the RCB and RW positions.

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Wish we'd just get the DCL deal done already, bored of moaning about the prospect of signing him and would like to move on to moaning about his actual performances (or lack thereof)

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57 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I'm so torn about DCL. his wage demands would be high as mentioned and his goal record is thoroughly uninspiring. Two good seasons in his career which feels like an eternity ago. 

 

Surely we can do better?

I'd only be happy with DCL in these scenarios (assuming Wilson leaves and Osula may go on loan?) 

 

Osula was good/productive enough as our 2nd CF and DCL is purely a tactical 3rd choice when we want a target man / 2 CF on pitch

 

Osula goes on loan and there is no better options on the available (Delap, Emegha etc) 

 

We go big on a AM and RW, like Cunha and Mbuemo, and between the front 6, cover for Isak is sorted either with DCL or Mbuemo covering, Cunha as false 9 etc 

 

My reasoning being is that I'd rather we get people who make a difference to the starting 11 or squad, DCL seems a liability with poor scoring record, injuries and isn't young anymore. Having said that, PSR and all that so do think in some scenarios he may make sense. 

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A 1 in 4 back up striker who doesn’t cost us a thing isn’t bad business. As much as I’d love a high tempo young striker like Delap - the position isn’t high priority. 
 

A quality RW could have us cooking next year if we can keep everyone we have now. 

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